Has anyone watched Maternal Instinct (Netflix) yet?

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Has anyone watched the new documentary on Netflix called Maternal Instinct yet? I had never heard of this case before and am just absolutely stunned. 🤯 How can someone have the capacity for such evil?

To be fair, she had been telling people that she wanted to sue the doctor who performed the hysterectomy around the same time that she was begging people to be her surrogate. I remember this being stated right after the crime first happened. A lot of information was left out of the Netflix documentary, probably due to time limitations.

Yeah but she didn’t sue and she wasn’t right in the head clearly. If there was medical negligence st play she could easily have managed that they’d have settled as well.

no surgeons are just giving someone a hysterectomy for the sheer hell of it as she’d some endo, that would be as rare as rocking horse shit. It’s highly likely it was so bad and her tubes so damaged she couldn’t ever have conceived.

ss said, I’d really not be going down the route of there must have been signficant medical negligence at play. I very much doubt that, I would assume what they found was so bad they had to act.

I'm not an expert and certainly hope it's not the case, but wonder that if going against medical advice to undergo a hysterectomy at the time, could cause her insurance company to deny covering the surgery at a later date? Much cheaper to do it all at one time than 2 separate surgeries.

Not that health decisions should be based on this, but in the US medical cost is often a deciding factor that wouldn't occur to us with the NHS. For the insurance companies, it's all about the bottom line.

Also, I'm surprised she didn't technically give written consent for a hysterectomy. Is it not normally something you're warned about as a possibility if medically required during the consent discussion before signing the paperwork?

It was a while ago, but I'm pretty sure I had to give consent for possible hysterectomy during my tubal ligation with c-section in the US. I tend to trust the medics judgement on medical matters and consented knowing that my family was complete and I had chosen to be sterilised in any case. (The hysterectomy came later back in the UK.)

I was surprised they removed her cervix too. Could there have been HPV cervical pre-cancer presence too? They left an ovary, so I don't think it was a case of just whipping everything out willy-nilly.

This. Exactly this.

Not exactly this this poster is guessing and has absolutely no idea why she was given a hysterectomy as the full details are not released.

The written consent form would only include consent to perform any necessary action in the event of a life-threatening emergency occurring during surgery. This was an elective hysterectomy because it was not needed to save her life. (I know this for sure because they wouldn't have even asked for her husband's consent if it was life-threatening.)

I believe they only left an ovary because removing both of the ovaries will throw someone into menopause prematurely.

I support hysterectomies for those that choose them, but it's quite frightening to me to think that I or anyone else could have surgery and wake up with my reproductive organs removed because a doctor noticed something like endometriosis whilst in there, and my family member consented to it on my behalf.

I know for certain that it was elective and not a life-threatening situation because the doctor would not have asked for her husband’s consent if it was. They do not bother to ask for consent from family members in life-threatening emergencies during surgery because time is of the essence and can’t be wasted. They’re not going to let someone die whilst they go ask their patient’s family member if they can do what’s necessary to save their patient’s life.

It's also rather more frightening that many surgeons or hospitals there won't perform tubal ligations or hysterectomies on married women without their husband's consent! Who cares what the woman wants or needs for her health!

The surgery didn't have to stop for consent to be obtained, unless you are saying only the actual surgeon can request and physically obtain the signature? Consent from the husband could have been sought, even during a life-threatening emergency, with preventing potential litigation in mind.

Again, I don't think endometriosis was the reason for the hysterectomy; it seems like there was a lot more to the medical complications than we are privy to.

The delusions, the fake life, the complete lack of empathy, the complete lack of remorse - got to be in pretty severe personality disorder territory that one.

Watched this now. It was VERY good. Very disturbing and tragic. 😢

interesting analysis

I wholeheartedly agree with this

I've just read that Taylor admitted to holding baby Braxlynn up to Reagan's face and saying, "Tell your mama bye" after she had cut and pulled her from Reagan's uterus. Bloody hell! I don't think there are many crimes that even come close to being as heinous as this.

She also convinced a mentally vulnerable inmate named Hanna that she was in jail with (prior to trial) to write a 13-page false confession letter.

https://www.scribd.com/document/599913615/Third-Supplement-to-Notice-of-Intent-to-Use-Extraneous-Offenses

That really is the million dollar question isn’t it? What the hell was her plan?

It looks like a consequence of arrested development - think of your three year old that tries to cover up his wall drawing with a bit of paper.

I think she was in the category of ‘sane enough to know right from wrong but cognitively deficient to understand complexity like an adult’

As I said above - it looks like arrested development (which isn’t a diagnosis in itself). Think about when a child lies to you and swears that’s the truth. I think she didn’t have the capability of thinking any further than the next move to prove herself pregnant, and that if she told subsequent lies ‘truthfully enough’ people would believe her.

I don’t know if she planned to kill Reagan. I think she naively thought she could perform a c section and Reagan would just go about her day.

I don’t think she was evil.

i don’t think she did things intentionally to hurt people. I think she just deeply, deeply selfish and arrogant and would go to any lengths to get what she wanted, and if people got hurt along the way I don’t think she really cared.

So I don’t think she’s “evil”, as she didn’t set out to hurt people. I don’t think she derived any pleasure from it. She just didn’t care.

And im not saying that in any defence of her, the punishment should be the same. I’m just making the distinction as I think her motivation, mental state is interesting (as well as horrifying).

Likewise a pp saying it was all meticulously planned, not a crime of passion. No, it was not a crime of passion, but also nothing was meticulously planned. Everything was half baked. She attempted to buy $20m of real estate - but it all fell down at the first hurdle because she didn’t have any money. There was no elaborate scam. Likewise, she was supposedly “10 months pregnant” and still had no idea how she was going to get a baby, googling adoption etc.

I find it so intriguing how badly planned out everything was, how shit her excuses were to people, yet she still expected them to believe her…..and they often did!!!! And then when they didn’t believe her, they still did not confront her, so she was still effectively getting away with it.

I would find it so offensive if somebody was lying to my face with such ridiculous, lazy lies. Did she think everybody she met was just really stupid / gullible? Although, again, they did seem to be….

I think a big part of why she got away with so much wasn’t that people believed her. It was that her behavior was so odd that people just didn’t really know how to react.

Good on Wade’s friends wife for calling her out, I liked her.

I also felt so awful for her older two kids, particularly when they were involved in the gender reveal for the non-existent baby.

it was never revealed why they were taken away from her, but if it was in the UK presumably there would have been some social work involvement regarding her new “pregnancy”.

and yes, I agree with the poster above that she probably did not intend to kill Regan. Probably thought she could perform a c section and Regan would live. But then his hadn’t even considered what would happen when Regan demanded her baby back.

I was home sick the other day and went down a rabbit hole on this. Thanks to @jaffacakesareevil @KandLanf @KierkegaardsUnderpants
for the links!

Also, big thanks to the poster who suggested Rotten Mango on youtube, sorry I can't see your post. That went for 2 hours but wow, the history on Taylor Parker was illuminating.

To summarize, this woman has been telling porkies her entire life. It didn't start with her claiming to Wade that she came from a wealthy Texan oil family and was due to inherit several million. Years before that, she was claiming to be the heiress to 'Morton Salt'. Her original surname from her father was Morton. Now, I'm in Australia and hadn't heard of Morton Salt but it seems to be a massive US company. Taylor claimed to be the sole heir and expecting 1.7 billion USD.

It amazes me how many people fell for her lies, when things like this could've been easily checked??

There are loads of docos on youtube if you have the time or inclination.

TW - distressing content-

I discovered another couple of cases of 'foetal abduction'. All in the US. One woman actually survived the attack although her poor baby didn't. Another attacker who killed a pregnant woman took the baby home and managed to pretend to her husband and other 4 children that she'd given birth. The cops caught up with her within a few days and she was eventually sentenced to death. She was executed in Indiana in 2021.