Nadia - stop moaning and get a job.....

[mids2019]

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-15628823/Nadiya-Hussain-attack-BBC-cancelled-difficult-conversations.html

I think this woman needs her to realise her star has fallen like a lot of minor celebs. She has had a good run and everything has did was tired. New cookery blood should be allowed a chance.

I thinks it's undignified to start accusing her erstwhile employers of racism.

Not always, depends on how you feel about further study, same in health and social care, lots of people go in a n assistant level to work out which area, get experience and see if its for them. Its not unusual at all in care for example.

I didn’t mean in a school tbh. There are private kids cooking clubs and things and I meant presenting a kids cooking show - not being a generic kids presenter

I've met Nadia, she's a very prickly character.

I'd agree she had a good run and there's only so far you can go - most former Bake Off winners have fairly small-scale careers and she did better than most for a while. I think the BBC went out of its way to support her for a very long time - if she wasn't pulling in audiences or selling enough books then she had to go as with anyone in that situation.

I've found the tone of your replies throughout this thread to be one of arrogance, and I tend to avoid when the tone is thus.

For clarity though, I'm aware that the modesty requirement is less comprehensive for men than it is for women.

Why do you think she's come to the end of her TV career after 10 years and yet someone like Rick Stein - with his dull voice, boring recipes and zero personality - has been on BBC cooking shows for decades. I wonder why he gets longevity and she doesn't? What could it possibly be?

Me too. I genuinely don’t think it had anything to do with racism. If the BBC were so racist why did she get a show in the first place. I do find it annoying that she keeps blaming her TV series ending over that. Shows get cancelled all the time. People go in and out of favour. She gets on my nerves really whinging all the time.

There are plenty of TV chefs that I’m personally bored with - Rick Stein in particular- but people are obviously still watching his shows otherwise they’d cancel him too.

Audience numbers and sales probably.

When was Rick Stein's last show commissioned? I actually dont know as I like him a lot and dont think he is boring or dull

Again, he is a professional, highly trained, running restaurants etc.

He is amazing, and has had a very successful career as a chef, with popular restaurants. Just look at Padstow. I went to one of his cookery classes there and it was excellent.

I watch all his shows and have all his books.

For a bake off winner she’s done particularly well out of the BBC, maybe the public just weren’t as into her as they once were, that’s allowed. She comes across as a bit entitled tbc, I always thought her programs were a bit shit as cookery programs go, she’s dull.

Exactly, Rick Steins programs were enjoyable and engaging to watch - hers weren’t.

I think he’s awful — he’s not a tv natural, formulaic, and he’s terribly patronising on his overseas trips when he asks the wife of a fisherman, say, to cook something as she usually would, and then says to camera that it’s a bit dull. That he’s still on tv is baffling to me.

Well not everyone agrees, hence his tv career and sales.

I’m pretty sure her money will last her and the next generation in her family a very long time and the reason she quickly went out to work after losing her job with the BBC is because she was of the mind - one door closes, another door opens. She’s ambitious, she wasn’t letting the grass grow under her feet.

Welcome to my world 😂

I have a very strong traditional first and last Irish name that is constantly mangled. I work in the oil industry that is very cosmopolitan so rub shoulders with Malaysians, Nigerians, Indians, Brazilians, Azerbaijani etc and the office is a complete car crash in terms of mispronoucing names. In my case the Nigerians really struggle and it has now become an ongoing joke. I could take offence I suppose or just roll with the humour.

I don’t think anyone is guaranteed a set time limit to fame or work on tv. Tastes change, there are new and cheaper stars always appearing.

I would think if she wanted to continue her brand then their are social media accounts that provide revenue and she could really plug a new rebranding on there.

As other posters have said cooking with younger children, helping teens to prepare for uni, recipes from her heritage or whatever.

I would have thought she would have made significant money by now that she could invest in herself if no one else would.

Honestly, every single one of the posters on here is just using the OP‘s post to justify their own thoughts on the matter. pro or con

He says to camera 'thats a bit dull' about someones cooking?

I dont think Ive ever heard him do that and Ive watched all his shows

Have you got a clip?

And Ive just answered my own question above, he has a new series out about Australia so I will watch that.

This year! He has a show on about Australia on the BBC.

He's maintained a career over 3 decades - but he has a clear niche of grumpy man, cute dog, fish, making restaurant or foreign dishes for a UK home audience.

He never strays out of that. DH and I liked his Long Weekends programmes where he was always most excited by the hotel breakfast.

I find it funny that people are saying "nobody is telling Jamie Oliver to move along" when people have in fact been telling him that, for years! He's just like the cat with nine lives, and always finds a way back somehow.

People didn't like his cheeky chappy Naked Chef persona and felt he wasn't serious enough to be a real chef. They didn't like him trying to reform school dinners. He came under sustained fire from the tabloids when his restaurants started to struggle, and was mocked when it was discovered that one of them was using premade pasta sauce. Then he got a bit ritzy with his ingredients and put out a cookbook that just assumed everyone owned a food processor, and got pushback for that, as he'd built a career making cooking accessible to cash-poor, time-poor working class people. Then he gave his primary school aged son his own tv show - an act of nepotism people weren't mad about either.

As far as I can tell, Jamie has survived by constantly adapting the brand. He seems to have understood that the one part of it he can't adapt, though, is the likeability aspect. If you make your name as someone positive and upbeat, that's what people will want to see from you. People want lovely Jamie who cracks jokes while he cooks and gets excited over all the ingredients. If he stopped doing that, he'd be toast.

I've never paid much attention to Nadiya, to be honest. I missed all the Bake Off excitement, and the few times I have seen her on telly, I found her dull. Ten years is a fantastic run for a reality tv show winner though, so she must have been doing something right. Her branding seems to have been somewhere between "relatable working mum" and "nice Muslim lady", as far as I can tell? A sort of Muslim Holly Willoughby?

But as Holly Willoughby discovered, a brand like that lives or dies on the ability to sell that niceness as genuine. People didn't like that Holly had turned a blind eye to Schofield's antics for years, and then thrown him under the bus the minute it all went public. They didn't like the sense that she was quite ambitious, actually, and wanted to be the face of every television show going. There's nothing actually wrong with being ambitious, of course, but it wasn't how she'd sold herself and it turned a lot of people against her. I think Nadiya's got the same issue. She's been given a career most reality contestants could only dream of, and instead of being grateful for that, she's complaining she didn't get more. It's not a good look.

I watched Rick Stein for years, I don’t even eat fish.
Cookery programmes aren’t just about the food, they are entertainment. You have to enjoy watching the presenter and even if you don’t make the food you have to find it appealing. I loved the 2 fat ladies, never made a thing from their shows. Watched it for them.
programmes get made because the viewing figures are good, if no one is watching they are not going to keep making programmes with her.

It always reminds me of Jack Monroe moaning she never got a tv series, when her food was rank and she couldn’t present.

Same here, all this malintent ascribed to spelling someones name wrong, yes even if its in the link!

Its done with all sorts of celebs and I have an 'English' name, albeit very rare and no one, and I mean no one gets it right either spelling or saying it. Particularly people from other countries but also everyone else.

What a load of nonsense. If you’re so annoyed about misspelled names why aren’t you asking PP who the fuck “Tom Ketteridge” is?? Though I suppose that wouldn’t help your argument as he is a white man.
It is gutter level that any of this should link into the fact she’s female, Muslim, has had mental health issues etc etc.
She’s a bit entitled and a bit annoying. Her train has reached the station and she needs to either pivot or move on to something new. I hate how this can be made a race issue when in fact it could so simply be an end of the road issue.

My favourite thing about Rick Stein is that he will always proclaim that whatever he is eating is the 'best' ever.