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CaptainMyCaptain · 09/03/2026 11:02

godmum56 · 09/03/2026 10:56

I don't think it was a teaching moment so much as a handing on moment and remember he was declaring dead someone who had known him since he was a small child. I think Timothy was having a blank moment due to emotion. He obvs had done it before because he said "I always feel as though I should talk to them" and in fact when my own husband died at home, the district nurse and GP who came actually did talk to him as though he could still hear them.

I have nurse friends who tell me they always talk to the deceased as if they were alive.

CaptainMyCaptain · 09/03/2026 11:05

IdentifyingAsAWoollyMammoth · 09/03/2026 10:17

Judy Parfitt (Monica Joan) on Jenny Agutter (Julienne): "I absolutely adore her. I love her – and this isn’t something I often say, but I really do. It’s impossible not to love her."

They get on very well, although they are very different. Parfitt will call a spade a fucking shovel but is also wickedly naughty and funny. Agutter is quite like her character and very serene, well organised.

I suspect the filming separately during COVID will have been partly due to health issues. Parfitt is now 90 and they will have been very careful and minimising interactions

Heidi Thomas said Pam Ferris came out of retirement specifically to do that scene "for Judy" when she had the idea of the ghostly nuns. Had she said no, she's have written something quite different. Once Ferris said yes, there was no need for Agutter's character to be there too (in fact, it needed Monica Joan to be there on her own).

Yes. She had to be alone to see the ghosts. Also, anecdotally, people often seem to slip away when left for even five minutes.

jay55 · 09/03/2026 11:13

IdentityCris · 09/03/2026 00:11

I'm wondering if we'll get a Higgs and Crane Detective Agency spin-off.

This would be a dream for me.
Solving crimes, running the scouts and fixing the locals one misfit at a time.

IdentifyingAsAWoollyMammoth · 09/03/2026 11:55

I sat with my grandmother for 12 hours. She passed away when I was gone for three minutes (toilet). Nurse said to me then she sees it very often.

TheDrsDocMartens · 09/03/2026 12:05

PJ98 · 09/03/2026 11:00

Poor Sister Catherine's storyline has been so boring this season, waiting for death!

She went to the headline conference for Sister Veronica !

godmum56 · 09/03/2026 12:09

PJ98 · 09/03/2026 11:00

Poor Sister Catherine's storyline has been so boring this season, waiting for death!

maybe the actress herself is getting frail.....maybe it was something she personally wanted to say through the character.

godmum56 · 09/03/2026 12:19

AwkwardPaws27 · 09/03/2026 10:37

This was my read of it too.
I wonder if it played into her decision - seeing a doctor (someone with far more power and authority at least in the views of wider society) having a double life, still having to hide part of himself, and thinking of her own double life (as Beryl but also Sister Veronica) and that the life she could have as Beryl without a child, while novel and fun, was not the one she wanted.
That said, I feel like she looked terribly sad when Sister Julienne was talking about potential next steps. It would have made more sense to me if she had requested to return to the Order but be transferred back to Hong Kong to work with the orphans and embrace a mothering role through that.

I also think that it was a choosing point for her. Geoff had never taken her into his social life and I think while Beryl understood he was not hetero, she hadn't actually thought through meeting his gay friends and entering his social circle, including finding out things like Dr Parry was also gay and in a gay relationship. I am not saying she was prejudiced, although many people were accepting in theory but not wanting to become involved so to speak, not wanting to be responsible for their secrets. If she could have had a child, she might have thought it worth it......
I also thought the character was a nod to the Profumo scandal and the role of Stephen Ward who took his own life over it.

Handeyethingyowl · 09/03/2026 12:24

I loved Sister Evangelina appearing, such a surprise and I shed a tear. I thought the funeral was done really well and interesting that Heidi got her own congregation in to do it realistically. A good send off for SMJ.

I was disappointed that Beryl didn’t leave the order. Returning doesn’t solve the internal dilemma she had. It didn’t really make sense to me that the answer was doing the thing that had previously caused her so much internal torment. The farewell on the pier was very moving though.

I liked that they gave Dr Parry a back story and I loved him dancing in the gay bar.

Rosalind still annoyed me for some reason! I don’t feel it fitted with her parents’ ‘progressive’ characters to completely abandon her in 1971 even if they unreasonably disapproved.

I completely missed Trixie suddenly and conveniently being able to invest the hospital and lost interest in that storyline.

I enjoyed it a lot overall though and would love to see the detective spin off!

Toddlerteaplease · 09/03/2026 12:42

I understand Beryl saying g that as a midwife she can hold babies everyday. I desperately wanted children but haven’t met anyone. But as a paediatric nurse I take comfort in cuddling our patients and looking after children.

StrawberryFlowers · 09/03/2026 12:47

Handeyethingyowl · 09/03/2026 12:24

I loved Sister Evangelina appearing, such a surprise and I shed a tear. I thought the funeral was done really well and interesting that Heidi got her own congregation in to do it realistically. A good send off for SMJ.

I was disappointed that Beryl didn’t leave the order. Returning doesn’t solve the internal dilemma she had. It didn’t really make sense to me that the answer was doing the thing that had previously caused her so much internal torment. The farewell on the pier was very moving though.

I liked that they gave Dr Parry a back story and I loved him dancing in the gay bar.

Rosalind still annoyed me for some reason! I don’t feel it fitted with her parents’ ‘progressive’ characters to completely abandon her in 1971 even if they unreasonably disapproved.

I completely missed Trixie suddenly and conveniently being able to invest the hospital and lost interest in that storyline.

I enjoyed it a lot overall though and would love to see the detective spin off!

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I loved Sister Evangelina appearing

Me too, it was just perfect.

Rosalind still annoyed me for some reason! I don’t feel it fitted with her parents’ ‘progressive’ characters to completely abandon her in 1971 even if they unreasonably disapproved

I completely agree and thought the same. They'd have come round once they knew she was pregnant or at least by the wedding. It didn't fit with their previous portrayal

StrawberryFlowers · 09/03/2026 12:49

MarchWindsAnd · 08/03/2026 22:45

The Unlikely Pilgrimage of Harold Fry is on 4Seven as I type. It started at 10pm. I recorded it when it was on C4 last night.

Thank you for the recommendation, @StrawberryFlowers .

It was good but harrowing. The harrowing part was nothing to do with the old lady in the hospice.

PJ98 · 09/03/2026 13:05

godmum56 · 09/03/2026 12:09

maybe the actress herself is getting frail.....maybe it was something she personally wanted to say through the character.

Not MJ, Catherine

godmum56 · 09/03/2026 13:17

PJ98 · 09/03/2026 13:05

Not MJ, Catherine

oh oops!!

godmum56 · 09/03/2026 13:18

StrawberryFlowers · 09/03/2026 12:47

I loved Sister Evangelina appearing

Me too, it was just perfect.

Rosalind still annoyed me for some reason! I don’t feel it fitted with her parents’ ‘progressive’ characters to completely abandon her in 1971 even if they unreasonably disapproved

I completely agree and thought the same. They'd have come round once they knew she was pregnant or at least by the wedding. It didn't fit with their previous portrayal

its the same as my "gay" comments! fine to be progressive till it gets too close to home!!

godmum56 · 09/03/2026 13:20

Handeyethingyowl · 09/03/2026 12:24

I loved Sister Evangelina appearing, such a surprise and I shed a tear. I thought the funeral was done really well and interesting that Heidi got her own congregation in to do it realistically. A good send off for SMJ.

I was disappointed that Beryl didn’t leave the order. Returning doesn’t solve the internal dilemma she had. It didn’t really make sense to me that the answer was doing the thing that had previously caused her so much internal torment. The farewell on the pier was very moving though.

I liked that they gave Dr Parry a back story and I loved him dancing in the gay bar.

Rosalind still annoyed me for some reason! I don’t feel it fitted with her parents’ ‘progressive’ characters to completely abandon her in 1971 even if they unreasonably disapproved.

I completely missed Trixie suddenly and conveniently being able to invest the hospital and lost interest in that storyline.

I enjoyed it a lot overall though and would love to see the detective spin off!

Edited

Again maybe for her, the least bad choice?

Toddlerteaplease · 09/03/2026 13:29

You Could tell the priest knew how to handle as Aspergillium.

REP22 · 09/03/2026 13:45

I noticed that in the trailer for The Other Bennet Sister (which looks very good), which followed CTM, Mary Bennet is being played by Ella Bruccoleri, who played Sister Frances in CTM (left around 2022 I think)!

I cried when Sister MJ died, and at the Pam Ferris cameo - it was beautifully done. Excellent acting from all members playing the Mullucks family, particularly the dad. The love the character has for Susan, despite his initial refusal to have anything to do with "it" at birth, plus his tender-hearted interactions with Sister MJ at the end of her life, were incredibly well performed.

Would love to see a Nurse Crane/Miss Higgins detective series, with Harry (and possibly Geoffrey) doing some of the more 'active' aspects.

I think the prequel will be interesting. I will gladly put money on a scene where a little doe-eyed blonde girl runs up to a nun and someone shouts "No, come here Beatrix!" - followed by brief camera close-up shot of winning Trixie-tot before she runs back offscreen - at some point.

NimbleHiker · 09/03/2026 14:49

godmum56 · 08/03/2026 22:03

I thought the Order was RC? I believe in reality the Order was stopped doing midwifery because "Virgin Brides" were not supposed to have anything to do with anything sexual. IIRC I read that in one of the original books. The books are much more honest and explicit but a good read.

Exactly. I read the books many years ago and the stories have stayed with me.

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AwkwardPaws27 · 09/03/2026 14:52

Horrace · 09/03/2026 09:27

I still wish the Turners would just die. All of them. His smug creepy face and her simpering head tilt pathetic voice "oh Patrick". And the son, dont get me started on him and that hair. Where the fuck did they get that hair from.
I wish a big fuck off boulder would fall from the heavens on the lot of them

But then "Oh Patrick" would magic up a cure for squashed-by-a-boulderitis.

CreamolaFoam26 · 09/03/2026 15:10

IdentifyingAsAWoollyMammoth · 09/03/2026 11:55

I sat with my grandmother for 12 hours. She passed away when I was gone for three minutes (toilet). Nurse said to me then she sees it very often.

That happened with my mum. I went to the ladies and she passed away before I got back to her.

Toddlerteaplease · 09/03/2026 15:14

Happened with my grandma. She was stable so the nurse told my mum to go home and get some rest. She died while they’d gone.

Plumbernightmare · 09/03/2026 15:22

So with Sister Julienne - I agree Sister Monica Joan needed to be by herself at the end so that Sister Evangelina and the Stunt Nun Ghosts could take her away.

But Sister Julienne seemed to be actively avoiding her. Didn't pop in with a cup of tea and some comforting words, didn't try to persuade her to take her meds (or tell her it was OK not to), didn't visit the body after she'd passed (on screen).

I'm sensing Nun Beef.

FinnJuhl · 09/03/2026 15:47

Plumbernightmare · 09/03/2026 15:22

So with Sister Julienne - I agree Sister Monica Joan needed to be by herself at the end so that Sister Evangelina and the Stunt Nun Ghosts could take her away.

But Sister Julienne seemed to be actively avoiding her. Didn't pop in with a cup of tea and some comforting words, didn't try to persuade her to take her meds (or tell her it was OK not to), didn't visit the body after she'd passed (on screen).

I'm sensing Nun Beef.

The ppssible issue seems to be that Jenny Agutter's own husband was dying from cancer while filming this last series. He passed away in December.

While I'm sure she would have been totally professional in any scenes required of her, maybe the writers decided to spare her this storyline out of kindness and respect for her situation.

NimbleHiker · 09/03/2026 15:57

My grandma died on her own too. She was stable on the Saturday night so me and my mum spent the night at home. On the Sunday morning my mum got a call from the hospital to say that my grandma was near the end of life. She passed away while the nurse was on the phone to my mum.

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NimbleHiker · 09/03/2026 16:07

5foot5 · 09/03/2026 10:52

I watched the Harold Fry film on Saturday. I have read the book so I knew what to expect, but I thought it was very well done.

CTM link too as Queenie Hennessy was played by Linda Bassett (Nurse Crane)

I thought that it was a good film too.

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