Fred and Rose West Netflix

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What an odd and sick couple. I was too young when all this happened but the amount of missed opportunities to stop them! Fred tried to keep Fred out of it didn't he but she got rid of him It seems. Shame he killed himself he should have had to live with what he did.

I read on another thread that FW got upset and she negotiated with them that if they let her go then she would come back as their nanny.

So they did so and she went straight to the police, who didn't believe her and reluctantly secured a prosecution with a £25 each fine 🤬

Just watching the first episode, I knew bits and pieces but not to this extent, I was 6 when this happened so wasn’t too aware of it back then but heard about it over the years. I just can’t fathom how someone can kill thier kids, I just can’t. Obviously I know it happens and they ain’t the only one but I just can’t understand.

The background music in this was so loud and intrusive.
Thankfully the documentary was light on details about what actually happened.

I’m sure it said they had some of the kids taken off them and put into foster homes. I may be wrong though.

I was late teens.

It's an absolutely fantastic drama. Appropriate Adult.
It must 15 years old itself now. It's focus is the main character (I don't remember exactly, I think a social worker in training) that gets assigned to be Fred Wests appropriate adult. How it affects her, her family, how she too is drawn in by Fred and his 'charisma'
Her story is also a true story. It is a brilliantly acted.

I think out of any true crime drama then this has to be one of the best.

Randomly, and very stupidly, at the time I travelled by train to see my friend and his band playing in Wymondham - Norfolk, middle of nowhere. I knew the name of the pub... Arrived at station in the dark, nothing around... No mobile phones then... I saw a couple waving their (assumed) daughter off on the train and asked them where I could call a taxi... They asked where I was going and said to get in the car and they'd drop me off. It was still headline news! Of course I got in and of course they dropped me off safely. I was 19. Probably safer with them though than stood at an empty tiny train station in December. Well...
I'm sure Sarah Everard felt the same.

There by the grace of circumstance.

I don't think I could watch a drama about that.

Are we talking about Appropriate Adult? Sorry, I just assumed as my TV keeps advertising if for Netflix or something.

Apologies if not!

Ignore me. I think I've misunderstood. I didn't know there was a documentary.

I watch a lot of true crime stuff, and it doesn’t matter what country it is, the police are absolutely bloody useless.

Even things like a woman asked for some assistance in getting her belongings out of the home, as the man was violent and had assaulted her on multiple occasions.
And they told her that we don’t do that sort of thing.

Time and time again, women ask for help from the police, and they just fob the woman off and tell them to go away.
It’s only when the shit hits the fan, and she gets murdered, that they pull their finger out.

Which could have been avoided, if they had simply done the bare minimum of their jobs.

Absolutely @ChimpanzeeThatMonkeyNews it's a damning indictment of how women historically and now have been treated.

@TheBig50 I was 21 at the time of their arrest so I remember it all vividly. Heather would have just been a couple of years older than me if she had lived so I really felt too invested in the case and heartbroken for the women.

It gave me the chills as a year earlier I had accepted a lift from a bloke in a van who was a landlord, to take me to view an empty flat in a dodgy area of the city. I was spectacularly lucky that he dropped me back off again but I remember coming back to town with him in the van thinking 'what the fuck am I doing?'

The arrogance of a naive 20 year old. I knew all about Suzy Lamplugh etc but I still did it. I have since watched things like 10 Rillington Place with a sick feeling of hindsight.

I’m glad to see someone else mention this. I’ve just started watching it and it’s so irritating.

I lived in Gloucester at the time and went to night school at the college. I used to park on Cromwell Street so I didn’t have to pay for parking. I remember it was an absolute circus, reporters everywhere and any place that Fred West had worked on was looked at as possible burial sites. I worked in a new building that one of his former employers had built and we had reporters turn up. We were told not to talk to anyone. It was awful and I remember waking daily to reports that another body had been found.

Such a scary thought I’d walked past that house many times and didn’t know it was going on.

Just vile humans who, maybe of they hadn’t met wouldn’t have committed such awful crimes, it’s almost like they spurred each other on.

Watched the documentary. I remember this happening when I was 16. Horrible!
His ashes were scattered in Barry island and there was an RAF base nearby. I wonder if there are victims in wales too.

I too spent my teenage years at the Brunswick pub and a lot of friends lived in bedsits on Cromwell street and adjoining streets. I couldn't believe how close I had been to such evil and not known about it.

I won't be watching. I know the basics of what happened and I don't want to know more.

Sexual abuse, rape, torture, murder, of their own children, of strangers. To commit all those crimes is (thank goodness) vanishingly rare, and just unfathomable.

It's also very rare for two natural parents to abuse and/or murder their own natural children, there is nearly always a stepparent involved.

I totally agree about the neighbour it was like she was smirking and loved that Fred West flirted with her, she was lucky she wasn't one of their victims.
Also the Appropriate Adult was weird even before she meet Fred West. It was full of strange people to be honest.

I’m stunned by that! I didn’t know that.

Who scattered his ashes, and why did anyone even consider carrying out his wishes??

Why wasn’t he dumped in with the industrial waste?

@ChimpanzeeThatMonkeyNews his extended family may well have spread them, can’t remember which of the other documentaries it is but there is one that talks to his family, I think his niece in particular and you feel sorry for them as the Fred they knew growing up wasn’t evil. To be honest I suspect day to day Fred outside the house was probably quite genial, but behind closed doors it was a different matter.
Just checked think it’s The Killer in my Family on Prime.

A friend, when he was a student, was quite slightly built and had long hair. One evening he was hitch-hiking home on a country road and a man stopped and gave him a lift. With hindsight, my friend thinks that the driver had assumed from a distance that he was a girl.
He said the conversation from the man got very strange, creepy and sexual. He asked the man to drop him off as soon as they got to a built up area.
When the news about the Wests broke he realised the driver had been Fred West.

The same thing happened to Vic Reeves: long-haired lad got picked up while hitchhiking by an odd couple who turned out to be Fred and Rose West.

I read a book about them as a teenager, it was on a bookshelf and I was curious. I was discovered reading it and made to put it back which made me even more curious. It knocked me absolutely sick. Was much more graphic than this Netflix series which is very light on a lot of information but I think to televise it would just be abhorrent. How those poor kids suffered 🥺

I had a heart stop moment recently when out with a group from a hobby. We have a recently joined member. Someone said that they had been watching the first episode of this and the new member quietly said 'my dad's sister was one of the victims'. I felt sick. It really brought home that there were victims whose families still live locally.

I’ve only read the daughters autobiography and what stuck with me was the day she came home from school and was told her mum and sister had “run off and left her “ which she believed and how upset she was when he killed himself

as a teacher I just was heart broken no safe adult ever asked her if she was ok , always on my mind that she could have been rescued earlier and lives saved

Just watched this. One thing struck me is how normal Fred looked in the home videos, where he’s riding a bike round a bmx track….looks like a normal dad having a laugh. And underneath he was so depraved.

I've looked all this up before, a long time ago. This thread has made me look it all up again.

I stopped earlier this time.

Its stomach churning. I have no words.

Please dont look it up if you have fragil mental health, or trauma yourself from abuse or neglect

These two were pure evil.

For me it was the sheer sexual abandon of the pair... no limits, children, making their own adult content to sell to fellow perverts etc.
Fred was keen to allow Rose to carry out prostitution work, proudly advertising her charms in perverted publications with the tag line.
Blacks Welcome
He believed they may impregnate her and held the notion they were good strong breeders.
Abhorrent the pair