The Traitors #11 ENDGAME

[witchycat2]

Carry on!

I couldn't do it, I'd hate the process of the game and the inevitable intrusion into my personal life.

They get other opportunities. Mollie from last year is on Dancing On Ice.
I think Diane made it onto a show.

That's why I couldn't be a traitor & defo not a horrible one, don't want to be a "Nasty Nick".

They get other opportunities. Mollie from last year is on Dancing On Ice.I think Diane made it onto a show.

Yeah, this & starring in the Wimbledon panto still isn't enough for me.

She didn't know her time was up she was trying to stay in..she was playing the game and doing what she was expected to do as a traitor.

They need to make it at least £500k next year. Fighting for £1k on tasks makes it seem underwhelming. When claud says they’ve banked £4k and there’s a muffled cheer

I disliked Joe, I thought he was whiny.

I went off Minah too, I thought she became cocky. I found Charlotte really dislikeable.

I think that's Leanne's personality type, she couldn't take any criticism throughout the game at all. She was a squaddie for 12 years, used to standing up for herself.

Most people don't like criticism but still have a modicum of self awareness

Feel weird about this one, the final seemed boring to me, much preferred all the other episodes.

I think the seer thing spoiled it, in the end I didn't really care who won.

They need to make it at least £500k next year.

I wonder if it would change who they attract though eg everyone would be ruthless.

Agreed. I assume people go on there more to be on tv/exposure/experience than anything else

Joe has got more praise than Minah on Uncloaked. Oddly.

I feel like the result has always been a bit anticlimactic. We can't help but have favourites, whether traitor or faithful. And then when the result is known, there's a lot of whataboutery and it's easy to fixate on how it's engineered.

But it's a TV show and it seems like Frankie and Alexander are at peace with it.

And it's why I could never do it, I'm not good at things that's aren't fair!

Remember "it's all in the edit". It did feel like Claudia was trying to mitigate some of the heat in Uncloaked tonight with her comments about Joe in the castle, most of which never made it onto TV.

Regarding the Seer, I feel it brings some balance back to the game. Frankie got lucky by picking Charlotte. If she had picked someone else, or if Charlotte had got the Seer power, the outcome could have been very different!

Sorry, also separately, did Ed Gamble look a bit out of sorts this evening? I can't work out in which way, but not his usual self as per previous episodes.

Or they just wanted a bigger slice of the pie

@Clafoutie - I've never liked Frankie and have posted about her several times before. She's too sacharine for me, plays the I've got 4 children you know card too often, way too quick to tears when she's never had any real pressure on her, pretty hopeless in some of the tasks, and she didn't play a very intelligent game. Why she thought there was still another traitor after Charlotte left I'll never know! But maybe she didn't actually believe that and was just trying to oust one more faithful to get a bigger share of the prize? Those are my reasons for not being on her side.

Surely next time any traitor won't make minage mistake and assume they can share money in the final. Also Jake should have been murdered sooner really

@MaggieFS - I don't think the odds are stacked against the traitors at all! Or don't mean with the seer

There was an interesting article in The Times a few weeks ago about how The Traitors is made differently from other reality shows.

In most shows the public sees an edited version of recent events and decides who to vote in or out based on what the producers show us. We are being guided/manipulated.

In Traitors it's created differently. The producers film the round tables before the edit. Then they create the edit as a 'who-dunnit' full of clues and red herrings created to keep us guessing. They know everything we don't before they create an episode. Again we are guided/manipulated but it's a done deal months before we see it.

Knowing that has made me less keen on future series. I like spotting tells and indicators. Knowing that other minds (probably greatly superior to mine, possibly even Martian) have overviewed the whole story from many, many viewpoints before deciding what to let me see sucks a lot of the fun out of it for me. I might as well watch Midsummer Murders.

Agreed. Leanne was a nasty piece of work.

Glad Jake got a share of the prize because he's played so smartly all the way through. He's helped catch traitors, he's helped the team in the challenges. I think he's probably a really good project manager also.

One of the reasons Leanne got to the final is that people were too scared to vote for her.

Alexander's education and class exposed Leanne's utter lack of both - she is not stupid and was aware of this, perhaps subconsciously, and resented him for it. The gentler and more polite he was, the more it riled her.

Yes, can't believe Minah didn't get a mention. It was her show for the first few weeks!