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Appreciation For The 1990s Pride And Prejudice

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EineReiseDurchDieZeit · 27/12/2024 18:45

It's never been equalled as novel adaptations go!! Everyone is perfect !

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cariadlet · 27/12/2024 20:47

The 1980 version was the first version I ever saw. I would have been in my early teens and watched it with my Mum. It was a time when the BBC always seemed to be showing dramatisations of classic novels. I think I've still got it on dvd somewhere.

Fay Weldon adapted it for tv and did a brilliant job.

en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pride_and_Prejudice_(1980_TV_series)#:~:text=Pride%20and%20Prejudice%20is%20a,Darcy.

The 90s version was great except for bloody Alison Steadman hamming it up as Mrs Bennett.

As far as film versions go, I'm not keen on the 1940s version. Laurence Olivier is good and Greer Garson is ok but too many of the others are silly caricatures, especially the younger sisters. I also get annoyed by the unnecessary updating of the costumes.

I do like the Keira Knightly version.

Agree with every word cariadlet

Alison Steadman’s performance was too overblown for my taste. I preferred the more querulous Brenda Blethyn.

I did love the relationship between Keira Knightley and Donald Sutherland!

Tortielady · 27/12/2024 21:44

I like the 1980, 1995 and 2005 adaptations equally and for different reasons. I haven't yet seen a Lizzie who outdoes Elizabeth Garvie in 1980, but Brenda Blethyn (2005) is much the best Mrs Bennet. She manages to make her, dare I say it, very slightly sharp and sarcastic and her chemistry with Donald Sutherland is superb. You can see that their lovely daughters didn't arrive with the stork! Mr Collins OTOH is at his most enjoyably smarmy in 1995. David Bamber clearly had fun and made an apparently unflattering role his own.

EineReiseDurchDieZeit · 27/12/2024 21:47

In the Zombie version Matt Smith is a great Collins. But then I love Matt Smith. I do think David Bambers is best though

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piscofrisco · 27/12/2024 21:49

It's smashing and never beaten in terms of adaptations of books. I love everything about it.

icouldnteatanotherbite · 27/12/2024 21:50

I love it too.

But the director should totally have had a word with Julia Sawalha when, freshly married, she exclaims, "Mrs Wickham! Lord, how droll that sounds!"

Julia Sawalha obviously doesn't know that droll means fun or exciting, not "dull" as she delivers it. It annoys me every time I watch it.

EineReiseDurchDieZeit · 27/12/2024 21:52

@icouldnteatanotherbite

Clearly, like myself you can recite the script!

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HorrorFan81 · 27/12/2024 21:53

icouldnteatanotherbite · 27/12/2024 21:50

I love it too.

But the director should totally have had a word with Julia Sawalha when, freshly married, she exclaims, "Mrs Wickham! Lord, how droll that sounds!"

Julia Sawalha obviously doesn't know that droll means fun or exciting, not "dull" as she delivers it. It annoys me every time I watch it.

Wait wtf, that's what droll means?? I've literally always thought it meant dull/boring. Possibly because of this show 🤣

It's easily my favourite adaptation, and love the score

whiteroseredrose · 27/12/2024 22:18

I read the book several times when I was younger. The 1980s TV adaptation was the first one I watched and Lizzie was excellent from memory. I remember thinking that Darcy wasn't handsome at all. Obviously not my taste in my teens.

There was a black and white film version that was awful though. The ending was completely different - Lady Catherine de Bourg was being a good aunt and had been 'testing' Lizzie.

Midlifecareerchange · 27/12/2024 22:25

I always thought she delivered droll with irony?

I agree best book adaptation of all time

JewelleryCat · 27/12/2024 22:30

cariadlet · 27/12/2024 20:59

@JewelleryCat The archery scene annoyed me too.

I don't mind scenes from books being omitted from films due to time constraints but don't like scenes that are made up or speeches that the character in the novel wouldn't have said.

I vaguely remember being annoyed by changes (in the 1940s film version) to the part of the novel where Lady Catherine de Bourgh turns up in her carriage to speak to Elizabeth but can't for the life of me remember what the changes were.

Oh yes, I remember that scene. She went first and went to talk to Elizabeth and after she talked to Elizabeth, went out to her carriage and Darcy was waiting in the carriage which is totally wrong then he went inside and all the Bennet sisters seemed to have suitors all around the piano

GLC789 · 27/12/2024 22:32

Obsessed with it! And rewatch more than once a year!

JewelleryCat · 27/12/2024 22:35

To the poster who asked where you can watch it, it’s usually on the U&Drama channel but I’m not sure when it’ll be next shown

RebelMoon · 27/12/2024 22:44

"Are the shades of Pemberley to be thus polluted?"

ExitPursuedByABare · 27/12/2024 22:48

I remember the first time I watched it, replaying the moment when Lizzie and Darcy’s eyes met over the piano.

Sheer perfection.

DreamTheMoors · 27/12/2024 23:09

Amaranthasweetandfair · 27/12/2024 19:58

I was 16, a massive Jane Austen fan, and it was sort of life changing television for me. I just love Jennifer Ehle as Lizzy, was such perfect casting. Susannah Harker and Julia Sawahla shouldn't have worked but they sort of did.

I just watched Jennifer in two other movies - Contagion, where she saves the day, and The Girl Across The Street.
This whole time I thought she was British - she was born in North Carolina!

EineReiseDurchDieZeit · 27/12/2024 23:11

I saw Jennifer Ehle playing an evil nun in 1923 recently she's also a CIA operative in Lioness both on Paramount +

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Melodyfair · 27/12/2024 21:22

She historically would have been considered beautiful in that period, she had the neoclassical looks that were considered handsome for that time, the nose, eyes and lips are like a statue of a Greek goddess. But I guess it depends on our view of beauty, if you look at Barbara Streisand in the regency scenes in a film called ‘on a clear day you can see forever’ she would have been a showstopper in that period.

I also think she needed tweaking down a bit so she didn't overshadow the real heroine, our Lizzie... it stopped her being too perfect on screen (easier to convey in the book that she's regarded as more beautiful but isn't as interesting).

And I've said before that there will never be a better Mr Collins than David Bamber... 🏆 That little finger to the lips when he's afraid he's gone to far...

mondaytosunday · 27/12/2024 23:50

@icouldnteatanotherbite I thought droll meant fun and isn't that the way she says it? Like look at me I'm having the life you wish you could have (missing the irony of actually they wish for anything but her life).

Appalonia · 28/12/2024 00:06

Jennifer Ehle was so perfect in her role, I was really shocked when I learnt she was actually American! I also don't understand why she's not had a bigger career, I'd have watched her in anything!

Deadringer · 28/12/2024 00:35

1995 Jane is often slated as not pretty enough but I thought she was beautiful in the role, porcelain skin, classic features and a wonderfully serene demeanor. Perfect, as was Elizabeth.

beetr00 · 28/12/2024 01:33

This was Jennifer Ehle at her most consummate (not P&P imho)

https://www.channel4.com/programmes/the-camomile-lawn

coxesorangepippin · 28/12/2024 02:05

I didn't realise it was a series

Thought it was a film

Ladylangstrand · 28/12/2024 02:48

JewelleryCat · 27/12/2024 22:35

To the poster who asked where you can watch it, it’s usually on the U&Drama channel but I’m not sure when it’ll be next shown

It's been on the iplayer for months

SpikyHatePotato · 28/12/2024 03:01

Just here to name-drop that I have worked with Adrian Lukis (Mr Wickham), and have even been in his hotel room ShockGrin

icouldnteatanotherbite · 28/12/2024 08:17

mondaytosunday · 27/12/2024 23:50

@icouldnteatanotherbite I thought droll meant fun and isn't that the way she says it? Like look at me I'm having the life you wish you could have (missing the irony of actually they wish for anything but her life).

I think she says it like it means "dull", with a little frown.

Yes, absolutely ironic for the audience!

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