Lucan (spoilers)

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I binge watched this yesterday, found it a really good watch, though the ending was a bit wishy-washy.

What did others think?

I found it pretty unlikely that they could go to all those lengths, follow all those highly niche clues, and find someone who a) wasn't Lucan but b) had such a strong match on facial recognition and c) spouted so many "appropriate" things like going to Eton (unless the edit just filtered out him saying dozens of things that didn't fit).

And in the end, I thought it was odd that they took one old man's word for it that it was a different person, whilst not taking the same verification steps!

Very sad overall. Especially the ex boyfriend of Sandra who asked her to swap date night, she wasn't even supposed to be there.

I think he did escape to Africa, possibly now dead - or possibly the guy in Australia.

That’s appalling. How dreadful.

I listened to a prog on the radio. They mentioned Shand-kydd as a friend who helped him at the start.
Haven’t read all of thread. Princess Diana’s mother married a Shand Kydd after her marriage broke up and they lived in Australia where they owned a sheep farm. There were 2 S-K brothers but this link wasn’t mentioned on the radio show.
They sold the farm and moved back to uk latterly. I imagine it’s why PD’s mother didn’t appear much in the break up with Charles.

@Wardenc it's easy for us to forget about the real people involved here. I'm sorry.

No no no. Diana’s mother did not live in Australia. That was Sarah Fergusons mother.

The Shand-Kydd who the Lucans' children went to was married to Veronica's sister. Veronica was furious that they got her children, because they were friends of Lucan himself (who had obviously tried to kill her, and who did, in fact, kill Sandra Rivett).

That was not the S-K who married the former Princess of Wales' mother.

And none of them lived in Australia.

Diana's step-father was half brother to Veronica's husband and he lived in Australia with his first wife but then in England/Scotland with Diana's mother.

Yes.

Veronica was only married once, to Lucan.

And Shand-Kydd wasn't Lucan's half brother!

No. See above.
Lucan never had a half-brother.

Ah sorry, my mistake I was thinking of Christina not Veronica. So Dinah's step father was Peter Shand-Kydd and his half brother Willian Shand-Kydd married Veronica's sister Christina.

From Wikipedia - Frances
Frances and Peter Shand Kydd were married on 2 May 1969 and lived on the Scottish island of Seil, where they bought an 18th-century farmhouse called Ardencaple,[9] 10 kilometres from Oban. She divided her time between London, Seil and another sheep farm in Yass, New South Wales.

Peter Shand-Kydd Wiki
He married Janet Munro Kerr, granddaughter of John Martin Munro Kerr. He sold the family business in 1962 and moved his family to Australia, where he became a sheep farmer.
After selling the farm and returning to England, and still married, he began an affair with Diana's mother (Frances) Viscountess Althorp.

From Yahoo
.....Diana’s trip was because her mother had reservations about the upcoming Royal wedding,
"[She] whisked Diana off to a remote hideout in Australia to throw off the press and make her think more seriously about the momentous step,” Brown writes.
Other reports say that Diana also spent part of her summer month at the family beach house in Mollymook on the NSW South Coast.

But they obviously had lots of connections with Australia -
which was my point - Lord Lucan could easily be passed off as a businessman or relative in remote nsw.
Also Peter's stepbrother William was married to Christina, Veronica Lucan's sister. so pretty close and likely to help Lord Lucan out in a crisis I would have thought.

Also Peter's stepbrother William was married to Christina, Veronica Lucan's sister, so pretty close and likely to help Lord Lucan out in a crisis I would have thought

Yes.
Peter Shand-Kydd had nothing to do with the Lucan story, but William and his wife were Veronica's sister and BIL and they ended up with the Lucan children, to Veronica's distress. They were definitely on Lucan's side.

I think that any help that Lucan received was managed by Aspinall and Goldsmith.

Susie Maxwell-Scott also aided and abetted him. She adored Lucan.

According to Neil's website they have now run facial recognition on the Canadian drag artist and Lord Lucan. The chances of them being a match were twenty something percent or less.

I've just finished watching the documentary.

I'm not convinced that the old man in Australia is Lucan but there are a lot of coincidences.
I'm wondering if he were Lucan, he could have been given details of the Crowther backstory by the same people who maybe helped him escape?

Sarah Ferguson's mother lived in Argentina, where she was killed in a car accident.

Lots of theories about why he would take Peter Jason’s identity, if Lucan were gay, and clearly PJ would have also been gay is it not possible that they knew each other from that world?
Maybe PJ was paid to take on an elaborate identity ruse to draw possible attention away from Lucan?
The height thing is the biggest thing for me, even allowing for four inches lost, no way the old man was 6ft!

Oh yes sorry, you’re right.

Quite often those who profess to be upstanding religious types are very far from it. It's a cover for their depravity.

I don't think that them man in Australia was Lucan, but he was quick to anger and announced that he was not a Buddhist to the surprise of his carer.

I binge watched the whole thing this weekend. I felt it started out as a ‘has this ordinary bloke found Lord Lucan’ documentary and ended up as more about Neil.

Neil was clearly very traumatised from finding out this information about who his mother was. He spoke fondly about his adoptive mother and it was so sad that he clearly found out about who he was alone. He needs counselling and support to come to terms with this.

As for how the old man has managed to support himself, well you kind of can in that community. I doubt he’s ever owned property or had to pay a bill. A Buddhist temple will look after you. Any one of us could turn up at a Buddhist temple tomorrow and they would feed you and possibly give you a bed for the night.
Don’t forget, he was floating about doing this in the 60s/70s/80s when communes and that kind of lifestyle was happening. Also consider that he may well have led a chemically enhanced lifestyle and that may have led to not keeping the ideas about his history straight.

Him saying that he wasn’t a Buddhist, in my opinion, was more him saying that he doesn’t conform to one belief system, that he can’t be pigeonholed.

I think there were two different carers as the one in the Brisbane house hadn’t consented to be filmed.

I would imagine that it is not just him and the carer living in both situations, more a commune.

I don’t think he is LL.

As an aside, did anyone listen to Mark Steel on Desert Island Discs? He was adopted and his biological father was one of the people who hung out with LL in the club.

As an aside, did anyone listen to Mark Steel on Desert Island Discs? He was adopted and his biological father was one of the people who hung out with LL in the club

Yes I heard that such an interesting programme in the end