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Netaporter · 11/10/2024 22:33

Anyone watching?

The premise; A mysterious delivery threatens to expose a celebrated journalist’s past. Cate Blanchett and Kevin Kline star in a series written for the screen and directed by Alfonso Cuarón.

It’s utterly compelling. And I reached the end of ep 1 before realising the husband is played by Sasha Baron Cohen.

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2024onwardsandup · 25/10/2024 18:25

Question - the female voice over is Cate Blanchett isn’t it?

Netaporter · 25/10/2024 18:27

2024onwardsandup · 25/10/2024 18:25

Question - the female voice over is Cate Blanchett isn’t it?

No - Indira Varma

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Anjelika · 25/10/2024 18:29

KillingMeDeftIy · 25/10/2024 17:42

I think it's more than she knew he was out there in the sea and didn't alert the lifeguards as soon as they brought Nicholas in. Or at least that's what we are led to believe from last week's episode, though we don't know if that's the true version of events.

(I haven't yet watched today's so don't tell me if I'm right or wrong!)

I saw it as worse than that. thought it was inferred she actually saw him waving but said nothing and it was only when one of the Italian women saw him that the alarm was raised.

She was gazing out to sea a lot and this was interspersed with showing him waving and shouting for help, hence me thinking she did see him.

tellmewhenthespaceshiplandscoz · 25/10/2024 18:45

And she was motivated by wanting to keep her affair secret as he'd said he was going back to London to be with her and bugger up her pretty little life. So let him drown.

Also I'm aware that this is what the book is telling us written by the mum? But how would she know the details? Or are we seeing Katherine's flashbacks?

Netaporter · 25/10/2024 19:29

tellmewhenthespaceshiplandscoz · 25/10/2024 18:45

And she was motivated by wanting to keep her affair secret as he'd said he was going back to London to be with her and bugger up her pretty little life. So let him drown.

Also I'm aware that this is what the book is telling us written by the mum? But how would she know the details? Or are we seeing Katherine's flashbacks?

We are seeing Nancy’s POV based upon the photos she had developed and her imagined narrative of her Son being a decent boy who was corrupted by a scarlet older woman who used him as a sexual plaything. So far we haven’t seen Katherine’s denial that what we are seeing was not a reflection of what may have happened,

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tellmewhenthespaceshiplandscoz · 25/10/2024 19:34

Ahhh I thought so. Thanks

tellmewhenthespaceshiplandscoz · 25/10/2024 21:49

So I'm all caught up ...

SPOILERS

is anyone else starting to feel a little bit of sympathy after the way her entire office reads a book dropped off by a stranger and doesn't question whether it's what happened?

And how gleeful the old man was after dropping the bombshell to her son?

And also face palming that K didn't wait until he opened his door to talk to him? Grin

Bachboo · 25/10/2024 21:54

Tomorrowisyesterday · 19/10/2024 22:38

How do we even know that the seduction scene happened that way? Was it in the book the mum wrote? I wonder if the woman viewed it the same way? I thought his actions with his first girlfriend were so different to how he was in this scene.
Though I'm finding a lot of this quite confusing!

Exactly! It’s only from one perspective at the moment

KillingMeDeftIy · 25/10/2024 22:27

I'm caught up now and am sure this is he episode that was filmed the day I saw Cate outside the corner shop. They were also filming a rain scene when I walked past earlier that same day. A day of bright sunshine!

JemimaTab · 26/10/2024 04:36

It's such an odd series. It takes itself so very very seriously, what with the ponderous narration, and quite a bit of the acting runs to ripe ham (Lesley Manville aside, and the very lively cats).

I also struggled to believe SBC's 360 degree about-turn from overly obsequious adoring doormat husband to chucking her out without giving her chance to explain.
Like other posters, I found the bar scene and sex scenes really cringeworthy, and can't work out if that's what they were going for, or whether it was genuinely meant to be erotic (in which case I think it seriously missed the mark). It was so uncomfortable that it felt exploitative of the actress, which was not pleasant to watch.
I also thought it didn't ring true that all the staff would have immediately believed the story of some random weirdo turning up with a load of self-published books. At a company that supposedly produced hard-hitting documentaries. (Although none of them seemed to like her).
I expect there is a twist coming, and the flashbacks will turn out to be inaccurate. But everyone is so unlikeable it's hard to care.

Tomorrowisyesterday · 26/10/2024 12:21

I really can't see how the book could be accurate, it can only be based on the photographs - even if the son had left some kind of diary it couldn't have included the events of his death.
Catherine's son is horrible isn't he? The way he speaks to both parents.

PutItOnMyTab · 26/10/2024 14:06

I wonder where the house with the totally glass back is. Quite unusual for London.

The old bloke's house is much more typical

I saw a review that said you could tell it was written by a man and I think they are right!

PutItOnMyTab · 26/10/2024 14:07

Ooh sorry I see I said that earlier. Just watching this episode made me think it even more!

JemimaTab · 26/10/2024 14:37

PutItOnMyTab · 26/10/2024 14:06

I wonder where the house with the totally glass back is. Quite unusual for London.

The old bloke's house is much more typical

I saw a review that said you could tell it was written by a man and I think they are right!

I wondered about that too - I thought it looked like the house might have been on a canal, but I'm not sure.
Stephen's house (the outside anyway) is on Dresden Rd in Archway - I recognised the shops. I think they used Junction Rd, Archway too.

Mishmashs · 26/10/2024 14:42

We’ve been really enjoying it. Although I do want to punch the feeble son in the face! He’s so awful to his parents! And SBC completely turning on his wife and her colleagues don’t seem to like her much do they?

tellmewhenthespaceshiplandscoz · 26/10/2024 15:19

It did make me think that camera phones are quite a worry in a way ... you know how on MN posters I dream (quite rightly) talk of just seeing a snapshot, context is important etc ... so in Katherine's case things in the office escalated very quickly, everyone starts filming and that snapshot is on the internet in minutes and forever. Scary stuff.

tellmewhenthespaceshiplandscoz · 26/10/2024 15:20

To clarify / obviously not the first time this has occurred to me but in this case even in a professional setting, nobody questions what they are seeing and why it's happening. And even if you don't like one person involved, still to just film, judge and upload in minutes Confused

KillingMeDeftIy · 26/10/2024 15:38

JemimaTab · 26/10/2024 14:37

I wondered about that too - I thought it looked like the house might have been on a canal, but I'm not sure.
Stephen's house (the outside anyway) is on Dresden Rd in Archway - I recognised the shops. I think they used Junction Rd, Archway too.

The residents of Dresden Road will be appalled to learn they live in Archway 😆

KillingMeDeftIy · 26/10/2024 15:42

Has anyone (who hasn't read the book) got a theory on what really happened? It seems they did have a night together or how else did those photos get taken? But was Catherine as much of a predator as she's depicted in the novel? Or did Jonathan pursue her? Or was it just a drunken shag that didn't mean anything? Though if that was the case then how did the photos on the beach get taken?

JemimaTab · 26/10/2024 15:48

(My apologies to the residents of Dresden Rd. 🤭)

westisbest1982 · 26/10/2024 15:54

Crouch End borders, do they call it round there these days?!

I think Robert and Catherine’s house was built from scratch in a studio.

KillingMeDeftIy · 26/10/2024 18:30

Robert and Catherine's house leaves me cold, in more ways than one. But again, I wonder what their previous house was like if this is what they've downsized to!

JemimaTab · 26/10/2024 18:42

I agree about the house. They film a lot in the kitchen and that is a very cold space IMO.

AncientBallerina · 26/10/2024 18:54

Glad I found this thread because I hadn’t realised there were more episodes after Catherine got kicked out 😅 SBC and KK are like parodies - their hair and make up are just awful. Cate Blanchet (who I love usually) seems to be playing a watered down version of her Tar character. I too fast forwarded through the sex scenes - after sitting through the bar scene I could take no more. It was ridiculous- no woman speaks to a younger man like that, or at least not for that long - Jesus girl just shag him already.
Agree the interior decor and the cat were the stars of the show 😃

Anjelika · 26/10/2024 20:01

I don't think the inside of Stephen and Nancy's house is the actual inside of the house they show the front of. I noticed last night there is a window in the through lounge, in what would have been the second reception room. Impossible with it being a terrace surely? I lived in a house with a similar configuration and that room adjoins the second sitting room of the house next door.