Doctor Who

[Deborah54]

This will be my 12th Doctor. I’m a big Doctor Who fan. Happy memories of Sat with my dad watching cyber men and darleks.
But what the hell has happened? I’ve just finished, well I managed 25 mins, before I couldn’t take it anymore the 1st episode with the new Doctor and sidekick. Awful acting with a ludicrous plot (yes I know it’s fantasy) but it’s never been this stupid. Can’t help but think the BBC aren’t bothered and think they can put out anything and we’ll watch. Russell T Davies should have his pens taken off him and spare us anymore pain.

I can’t be the only Doctor Who fan who thinks like this. Absolutely Gutted 😞

I enjoyed this episode, but have so many questions!
Why were the Doctor and Ruby there?
Why were the young people there and why were they being eaten?
Why were their parents not coming back for them?
Who were the monsters, why were they eating the residents, and what happened to them after?
What was the purpose of their work?
How did the others find the river?
Why were they all racist?

I think that if this was the Tennant era, the answers to these questions would be inherent to the plot. Here, there was no resolution, no conclusion!

Why were their parents not coming back for them?

Home world was dead - the dance/song hero guy checked back to get help saw it was dead and lied to the main girl.

But why did rich parents think it desirable to send their 17-27 kids to a different world to work 2 hours a day and party - doesn't sound like good preparation for productive life. It felt like a dig at that age group who tend to be juggling fair bit these days not partying all the time - though maybe I don't know enough rich people.

Skynet plan was better and motivation clearer- a population that dependent why not walk them out of windows or down lift shafts or zap them genetically engineering and going alphabetically - wtf as plans go that's a bond style plan needlessly complicated and time consuming.

Main girls remaining friends who were mentioned in passing to be still at their desks presumably are still there dying or at risk of dying as they just seem to get left there. In summary rich white people are awful - any that show decency or morality get killed - that after depiction of welsh people last week.

I liked bits of it but it was kind of stupid plot wise and increasingly feels like there's a mean edge underlying writing - again Susan Twist was there but they noticed. We all walked away bit unsatisfied with it.

@BritishBeatleMania this was the “ doctor-lite” episode (like “Blink”) and was actually the first one filmed because Ncuti was still filming another show.

@BritishBeatleMania this was the “ doctor-lite” episode (like “Blink”) and was actually the first one filmed because Ncuti was still filming another show.

Oh sorry, I think I am on a different episode!

Yeah. That was last week and the circular loop. Which I liked but served no (as yet) obvious purpose!

I liked dot and bubble until the final scenes.

Yes, I liked it despite the fact that she learnt to run very quickly, and killing Ricky was a good twist even though I liked him and wanted him in the Tardis! But the racism thing felt like a bolt on because Ncuti is black- I reckon this episode had been knocking around for a few years and they just did a quick update on it.

We really liked “dot and bubble”
frustrated to get another doctor-lite episode.

but the premise and story were good. The ending prompted some good post-episode discussion. While it could be seen as a metaphor for race, it really was much more than that. This isn’t a society that even necessarily has the issue of race to contend with, so for lack of a better word it’s that the Doctor and ruby were not part of their bubble. They were not part of the clique.

I thought Lindy meant that the doctor was clearly an alien. That the twist was she somehow knew he wasn’t human.
but rtd said he wanted the audience to notice everyone was white.

The baby one was shit. Didn't really get the Anglican war one but loved the Wales one and the maestro.
It's something DS, and I watch together. They almost lost him with the babies, but we got back on track with the other 3.

Oh, I said that, too!!! Love the Master

I was not keen on Dot and Bubble

All her Facebook friends are white, I noticed, is that relevant?

I was enjoying the episode until the end. I don't get it? As PPs have said, there's so many unanswered questions! Why were some eaten and not others?

I was suspicious of Ricky September right up until Lindy betrayed him. That felt dark.

It was only at the end that I noticed the Doctor was the only black person.

which says a lot really. I can't believe I didn't notice. I've found that very thought provoking.

I thought it was an excellent episode.

Why were some eaten and not others?

They came later in the alphabet - the plot was the ball internet/facebook thingy became intelligent hated the people - decided to somehow create the monsters and then killed them in alphabetical order - ignoring some to go in order of alphabetical killing list.

So survivors had names - not sure it if was surnames or first names -that came later in the alphabet - and because they were killed alphabetically it altered Doctor to fact it wasn't random but the floating metal ball.

Once the Doctor figured this out the metal ball though fuck it -so it decided to forgo the slugs and decided to try and kill main girl itself with kinetic energy - switched to hero boy when main girl pointed out he'd changed his name and actually his surname was earlier in the alphabet than her.

All her Facebook friends are white, I noticed, is that relevant?

Yes they were racist - refused to let the Doctor save them because they couldn't interact in person because he was not "one of them" - and it was his duty to save them as they were somehow superior - I think because of his skin colour as they seemed unaware he and Ruby were aliens to their world/society.

So basically we have young people on campus like area in their bubbles who are selfish arseholes who hate black people and are so incapable of thinking for themselves they need direction to walk and so self absorbed don't notice people being eaten in next office desk.

One of my kids has stopped watching now - I'll watch as long as other one still does. Next week look like alien Bridgerton.

They were very clear why some were eaten and not others! Alphabetical order, that's all.

but there's still lots of unanswered questions.

Did anyone else feel that episode felt quite incomplete?

but there's still lots of unanswered questions.

Yep - all of last week questions plus they've notice Susan Twist now - main girls Mum here- so were going compare notes later.

No idea how Doctor and Ruby came to be on that planet or how they knew about the slugs - why they left those who didn't make it from their desks - what happens in end to nasty boat people. Why did metal ball hate all the people - why start with the home world and not do both locations at same time - how did it get the slugs - why didn't it kill them all at once - why did it stick to it's alphabet list -and miss so many easy kills.

Yes that's what me and my friend just said, half a story!

I don't like all the unanswered. Questions.

I felt like the fact it was young people was going somewhere...

And was mummy actually ever real?

Normally the Dr doesn't try to change people's destiny and save them

Thought it was very odd