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Scoop! Netflix Friday 5th April A prince among men

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TheIcecreamManCometh · 01/04/2024 18:48

This looks good.
Gillian Anderson plays Emily Maitlis.
Billie Piper plays the producer Sam McAlister but wears a blonde wig in the trailer I've seen.
‘She was an unsung hero’: Billie Piper on playing producer Sam McAlister in a new drama about Prince Andrew’s Newsnight fiasco | Billie Piper | The Guardian

‘She was an unsung hero’: Billie Piper on playing producer Sam McAlister in a new drama about Prince Andrew’s Newsnight fiasco

In Scoop, Piper plays the woman who landed the interview. They discuss their unlikely alliance, the pitfalls of fame and Andrew’s delusions

https://www.theguardian.com/tv-and-radio/2024/mar/31/billie-piper-sam-mcalister-scoop-prince-andrew-newsnight

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TheIcecreamManCometh · 01/04/2024 18:50

It made me watch the original interview again.
I can't believe he thought it went well.
I can't believe no one from the palace was checking.
So many questions.

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TheIcecreamManCometh · 01/04/2024 19:27

It is bewildering.
At some point, he was advised to say:

  • he knew Ghislaine more, Jeffrey was a plus one/helpful person to know
  • he wanted to break up with his friend's friend in person
  • he knew exactly where he was twenty years ago
  • he was unable to sweat
  • he never met Virginia, the three times they shagged never happened
  • he didn't recall the photo
  • he didn't regret the relationship he had with Jeffrey

I know he would have been rightly condemned but would it not have been better to say:

  • he was taken in by both
  • he was a mooch/cheapskate/wanted to save money on hotels
  • he had been friends with Ghislaine for years so trusted she employed staff
  • he regretted knowing both
  • he had met many women and had photos taken with many women as a guest of honour/favour to the host
  • he thought it was a shakedown
  • he believed his friends' accounts
  • he had shagged her but thought she was older and it was enthusiastic consent
  • or insisted the photo was a fake and Virginia was lying

Instead there was this defence of "not recalling" but not actually outright denial as far as Virginia's testimony and the photo were concerned.

What the hell were the Palace's team/PR/special branch doing? Why no intervention?

  • allowing the interview to go ahead
  • allowing the invite of someone to Windsor who'd been arrested
  • allowing Andrew to stay with Epstein after his release
Those in charge of Andrew's diary/palace officials/security detail. Why didn't they stop him? Why did nobody say mate, this isn't a good idea?

Who spun the "more honourable to break up in person" line?
Who told him to say he regretted the trip but not the relationship?
Who was in charge of his diary? Could they have still had notes of security detail two decades later? Re Pizza Express, it wasn't his daughter's birthday until two weeks later.
Worse than the sweating and the Pizza defences was his idea that he'd have remembered a shag ("positive action for a man"). God almighty, who the hell came up with that one?

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TheIcecreamManCometh · 01/04/2024 19:36

I hope that Gillian Anderson accurately conveys Emily Maitlis's scorn/expression/non-verbal communication - especially the "Unbecoming? He was a sex offender" - at the end of the interview.
I'll never understand why the Royals let him do it. It went totally against their Never explain mantra. Crown must have been apoplectic.

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TheIcecreamManCometh · 02/04/2024 18:23

The booker that Billie Piper's character is based on.
Not sure how much more she can milk from this now it's going to screen twice (Scoop on Netflix and at some point, A Royal Scandal on Prime) but she tells the anecdote to perfection now.

The inside story of Prince Andrew’s notorious BBC interview | Sam McAlister | TEDxNewcastle

On 16 November 2019, Prince Andrew appeared on BBC Newsnight across from legendary newsreader Emily Maitlis and proceeded to give one of the most remarkable ...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I88aZvrqNmM

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Propertylover · 05/04/2024 13:57

Just watched this - Rufus Sewell is amazing as Prince Andrew.

shoppingshamed · 05/04/2024 20:09

I've just started watching it, what is Paula Vennels doing announcing jobs cuts at the BBC?

User884721 · 05/04/2024 20:48

Does he really have all those teddies on his bed? That in itself is creepy

Motnight · 05/04/2024 21:38

Just watched this. Fantastic. Gillian Anderson and Rufus Sewell were amazing. Captured who they were both playing without being caricatures.

Needsomebloodyperspective · 05/04/2024 21:52

Just finished it. His private secretary was pretty blinkered but just read that she took the fall for it.

TTPD · 05/04/2024 22:01

User884721 · 05/04/2024 20:48

Does he really have all those teddies on his bed? That in itself is creepy

I believe there was a story somewhere that he had a lot of teddies, and staff had to learn how to put them back in their right places after cleaning.

Smokeysgirl · 05/04/2024 22:16

Just watched it, thought it was really good. The guy that played Prince Andrew was fantastic, so was Gillian Anderson. I bet Beatrice was pleased when she saw the actress playing her, it was very flattering to her!

TheIcecreamManCometh · 05/04/2024 22:24

I've just finished. I enjoyed it.
The gorgeous Rufus Sewell* in make up for four hours.
The photo shown with Rufus in it! Grin
Gillian Anderson gets it spot on in that interview.
I look forward to seeing Emily's A Very Royal Scandal when it comes out.
Emily has spoken about the gulf between Andrew and the hoi polloi, his definition of a "party" for example.
Ruth Wilson will be playing her and Michael Sheen** will play Andrew.
I look forward to seeing their characterisation too.
Scoop was of course from the point of view of Sam. She's the hero in this one.
Amanda was portrayed as loyal but naïve. Jason Stein knew how it would go.
It is interesting how things might have panned out had Andrew not done the interview at all. Derschowitz knew to counter sue.
*Rufus Sewell, 56, engaged to actress Vivian Benitez, 26 - BBC News
**TV tonight: Michael Sheen faces wildly personal questions in a dynamite interview | Television | The Guardian
a thirty year and twenty five year age gap between Rufus and his fiancée and Michael and his wife? Older men shagging women old enough to be their daughters? You may think that, but I couldn't possibly comment

Rufus Sewell and Vivian Benitez

Rufus Sewell, 56, engaged to actress Vivian Benitez, 26

Sewell, who played Jasper in the festive film The Holiday, has been married twice before.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-67635469

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BoredAuditor · 05/04/2024 23:32

I enjoyed it. GA and RS were really good - really nailed EM and PA.

But did we really need to see the naked arse shot..?

TheIcecreamManCometh · 05/04/2024 23:53

It was a prosthetic arse if that helps with the brain bleach!

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BestIsWest · 05/04/2024 23:55

shoppingshamed · 05/04/2024 20:09

I've just started watching it, what is Paula Vennels doing announcing jobs cuts at the BBC?

That was my first thought too!

Aquarius1234 · 06/04/2024 00:06

Just finished. Great if a short ish film.

Aquarius1234 · 06/04/2024 00:06

BoredAuditor · 05/04/2024 23:32

I enjoyed it. GA and RS were really good - really nailed EM and PA.

But did we really need to see the naked arse shot..?

I think we needed to for the creepy aspect and the teddy bears.. wtf

Aquarius1234 · 06/04/2024 00:09

Ps Billy Piper was amazing and I wanted to see more of the boss younger woman. I like her voice and way of acting.

NoisySnail · 06/04/2024 01:23

Thanks, I will watch this.

MokaEfti · 06/04/2024 08:03

I'm afraid I thought it was a bit boring. Rufus was the best in it I thought. Don't like Billie Piper at the best of times but felt she really overacted. Keeley was solid - always love her. Gillian A annoys me although I know she's good. Always love Romola G. Apart from all that, I just felt they didn't really depict the shock value and the pacing was wrong. Look forward to seeing the version with Michael Sheen - didn't know about that until reading this thread.

Newgirls · 06/04/2024 21:41

i found it really compelling which is quite something when we all know the story. Billie and the pap were great and their angle on it - the contrast in their lives and the royal household. Excellent acting all round. Agree with the op earlier post about how could he get that so wrong. Stuck in some weird childlike state of denial and toys.

letitlego · 06/04/2024 21:48

TheIcecreamManCometh · 02/04/2024 18:23

The booker that Billie Piper's character is based on.
Not sure how much more she can milk from this now it's going to screen twice (Scoop on Netflix and at some point, A Royal Scandal on Prime) but she tells the anecdote to perfection now.

The amazon version is not Sam's version of events . Apparently. And she doesn't feature in that version

letitlego · 06/04/2024 21:53

Makes me
Laugh how he thought childs birthday at pizza express was an

letitlego · 06/04/2024 21:53

Was an alibi for not being at Tramps nightclub