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Scoop! Netflix Friday 5th April A prince among men

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TheIcecreamManCometh · 01/04/2024 18:48

This looks good.
Gillian Anderson plays Emily Maitlis.
Billie Piper plays the producer Sam McAlister but wears a blonde wig in the trailer I've seen.
‘She was an unsung hero’: Billie Piper on playing producer Sam McAlister in a new drama about Prince Andrew’s Newsnight fiasco | Billie Piper | The Guardian

‘She was an unsung hero’: Billie Piper on playing producer Sam McAlister in a new drama about Prince Andrew’s Newsnight fiasco

In Scoop, Piper plays the woman who landed the interview. They discuss their unlikely alliance, the pitfalls of fame and Andrew’s delusions

https://www.theguardian.com/tv-and-radio/2024/mar/31/billie-piper-sam-mcalister-scoop-prince-andrew-newsnight

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letitlego · 06/04/2024 21:55

letitlego · 06/04/2024 21:53

Was an alibi for not being at Tramps nightclub

Maybe Jeffrey Epstein liked to party and traffic girls at 4pm on Saturday afternoons

Maybe Tramps opened early especially for him

Newgirls · 06/04/2024 21:55

Good point… always good to carb load before a big night out

spottybeetle · 06/04/2024 21:57

Namechanged as outing. I worked in BBC current affairs a bit before Sam McAllister and we pulled off interviews as difficult as that all the time, albeit not so high profile.

I applaud SM, she has really played the set of cards she has been given as well as she possibly can and good on her, but she was literally doing her job. Absolutely amazing gift for self promotion!

Soowoo · 06/04/2024 22:08

spottybeetle · 06/04/2024 21:57

Namechanged as outing. I worked in BBC current affairs a bit before Sam McAllister and we pulled off interviews as difficult as that all the time, albeit not so high profile.

I applaud SM, she has really played the set of cards she has been given as well as she possibly can and good on her, but she was literally doing her job. Absolutely amazing gift for self promotion!

I think you’re missing the point - this interview was incredibly high profile and that is why this film is interesting to people. The point of the story is not about how difficult it was to pull off the interview. The way SM obtained the interview is interesting because it highlights how naive, and out of step with modern society, the palace was.

NoisySnail · 06/04/2024 22:24

I agree. I have not watched this but I want to understand how the Palace agreed to this interview and why they thought it would be a good idea. Anyone could have seen this was not a good idea, we just had no idea beforehand how much of a disaster the interview would be.
I am also glad dramas are being made in case the interview is taken off air in the future. I hope if that happens that dramas about it will still be available.

Aquarius1234 · 06/04/2024 22:38

I'm glad the interview happened. As they kept saying interviews give the public a chance to hear the real person....
And he was awful.

VivienneDelacroix · 06/04/2024 23:35

I thought it was terrible, and I really wanted to like it as I love Billie Piper (and she's the most lauded stage actor in the UK) and Gillian Anderson is usually great, but this was so disappointing.
Gillian Anderson's Emily Matliss was just odd - weird voice which was inexplicably almost exactly like her Thatcher in The Crown.

I'm not sure the source material really warrants a film.

spottybeetle · 07/04/2024 09:37

Soowoo · 06/04/2024 22:08

I think you’re missing the point - this interview was incredibly high profile and that is why this film is interesting to people. The point of the story is not about how difficult it was to pull off the interview. The way SM obtained the interview is interesting because it highlights how naive, and out of step with modern society, the palace was.

It's fascinating, I completely agree, I am just intrigued by how SM has played it since. Will be interesting to see the Amazon version.

BestIsWest · 07/04/2024 11:14

I agree re Gillian Anderson, she looked the part but doesn’t sound right at all. I’m listening to Emily Maitlis’ book at the moment read by Emily herself and the voice is nothing like and the personality didn’t seem right either.

Aquarius1234 · 07/04/2024 11:55

GA is tiny definitely looked the part and hair make up.
Her voice isn't deep enough I think, but I didn't care as I knew beforehand the film was the lead up to the interview and about SM. Made it more interesting for me.
Seeing the real SM she's more OTT than Billie Piper made her . And yes she really does just wear the same black dated outfits and big sun glasses.

Aquarius1234 · 07/04/2024 11:56

Some people are strange in that they always wear the same stuff even when it goes out of fashion..

DirtyDensDog · 07/04/2024 14:37

What is the Amazon version called please?

TheIcecreamManCometh · 07/04/2024 16:48

It's A very royal scandal
A Very Royal Scandal - Wikipedia
but won't be out for ages.
Emily Maitlis is exec producer on it.

A Very Royal Scandal - Wikipedia

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A_Very_Royal_Scandal

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TheIcecreamManCometh · 07/04/2024 16:55

letitlego · 06/04/2024 21:48

The amazon version is not Sam's version of events . Apparently. And she doesn't feature in that version

Yes, I know. It's going to be a different account according to Emily.
Scoop was based on Sam's memoir.
There has been the usual pitching women against each other in the press.
Also tattle that Sam bigged up her role in it all and pissed off colleagues when she wanted a pay rise.
My point was - she has been making a good living as a speaker (and I do find her quite entertaining) but if you have not one but two films out back-to-back about the whole affair (and I know she's only made £ from the Net of Flix) then apart from the odd person buying her book off the back of it, at some point public interest will be sated and she won't have that key speaker/ted talk/after dinner speaker revenue anymore?
The gravy train will stop as everyone knows the content inside out.

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diddl · 07/04/2024 17:34

I have not watched this but I want to understand how the Palace agreed to this interview and why they thought it would be a good idea.

Could they have stopped him?

Also tempted to say that they wanted him hoist by his own petard (but doubt they would have ad so little consideration for HMQ).

Is there much of the interview in it?

I'm interested but not in just seeing the interview.

Newgirls · 07/04/2024 17:46

They show some of the interview cut with other parts and also you see everyone’s reactions around it so it’s not boring

diddl · 07/04/2024 17:48

Newgirls · 07/04/2024 17:46

They show some of the interview cut with other parts and also you see everyone’s reactions around it so it’s not boring

Thank you.

Zyq · 07/04/2024 18:07

NoisySnail · 06/04/2024 22:24

I agree. I have not watched this but I want to understand how the Palace agreed to this interview and why they thought it would be a good idea. Anyone could have seen this was not a good idea, we just had no idea beforehand how much of a disaster the interview would be.
I am also glad dramas are being made in case the interview is taken off air in the future. I hope if that happens that dramas about it will still be available.

The thing is, that it needn't necessarily have been a bad idea. That was essentially down to Andrew's lack of basic intelligence and his arrogance. Admittedly, people at BP should have been aware that if anyone could cock It up, Andrew could, but I suspect they just didn't realise how enmeshed he was with Epstein which made it virtually inevitable that he wouldn't be able to defend himself convincingly.

NoisySnail · 07/04/2024 18:54

The information was already out there about how enmeshed Andrew was with Epstein. But lots of people did not know about it or did not understand the significance. A proper interview was always going to at least make people more aware of the details of the accusations. So it was never a good idea.
But the obvious lies Andrew told were never going to land well.

DramaLlamaBangBang · 07/04/2024 19:03

NoisySnail · 06/04/2024 22:24

I agree. I have not watched this but I want to understand how the Palace agreed to this interview and why they thought it would be a good idea. Anyone could have seen this was not a good idea, we just had no idea beforehand how much of a disaster the interview would be.
I am also glad dramas are being made in case the interview is taken off air in the future. I hope if that happens that dramas about it will still be available.

I think, as I suspect with a lot of Royal issues, they employ people who are going to tell them what they want to hear, and who are hugely deferential to them instead of people who are going to tell them the truth. Or they just don't listen to advice when it's given. Andrew might as well have gone into that interview and said ' Dont you know who I sm? IM HRH Prince Andrew, my mother is The Queen and I was a war hero' He had no idea that wasn't enough.

HowardTJMoon · 07/04/2024 19:34

I thought the whole "Sam works hard to balance being a struggling single mum against trying to excel in a tough environment where she doesn't fit in" thing was overblown.
On the other hand I think it did a good job of showing just how dim, out of touch and downright arrogant Andrew is.

HermioneWeasley · 07/04/2024 20:33

There was a court case a few years back where royal protection officers were involved and for some reason they ended up giving the nicknames of the royal,family. The queen was referred to as the purple one, Prince Philip was “the Greek” and Andrew was known as “the cunt”

JingsMahBucket · 07/04/2024 22:12

Aquarius1234 · 07/04/2024 11:56

Some people are strange in that they always wear the same stuff even when it goes out of fashion..

Princess Anne is definitely like this with most of her clothes. It feels like she’s defiantly still wearing clothes from the late 60s in spite of fashion and tailoring moving on.

I also always shake my head and shudder whenever I see pictures or video of Camilla. She’s literally had the same hairstyle since 1975. So bizarre. If that were a mullet, more people would be openly mocking it.

Clafoutie · 07/04/2024 23:32

Soowoo · 06/04/2024 22:08

I think you’re missing the point - this interview was incredibly high profile and that is why this film is interesting to people. The point of the story is not about how difficult it was to pull off the interview. The way SM obtained the interview is interesting because it highlights how naive, and out of step with modern society, the palace was.

I don’t think that was the only point though. I felt there was a bit of self-aggrandisement going on here ( rightly or wrongly).

NoisySnail · 07/04/2024 23:36

It was an extraordinary interview. I can not think of another high profile interview where the person being interviewed is so obviously lying. And where the lies are so ridiculous.

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