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Scoop! Netflix Friday 5th April A prince among men

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TheIcecreamManCometh · 01/04/2024 18:48

This looks good.
Gillian Anderson plays Emily Maitlis.
Billie Piper plays the producer Sam McAlister but wears a blonde wig in the trailer I've seen.
‘She was an unsung hero’: Billie Piper on playing producer Sam McAlister in a new drama about Prince Andrew’s Newsnight fiasco | Billie Piper | The Guardian

‘She was an unsung hero’: Billie Piper on playing producer Sam McAlister in a new drama about Prince Andrew’s Newsnight fiasco

In Scoop, Piper plays the woman who landed the interview. They discuss their unlikely alliance, the pitfalls of fame and Andrew’s delusions

https://www.theguardian.com/tv-and-radio/2024/mar/31/billie-piper-sam-mcalister-scoop-prince-andrew-newsnight

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TheIcecreamManCometh · 12/04/2024 18:59

Nothing to do with what family you come from or where you went to university (BTW you don't have to be posh to go to Oxford University!)

Not why she was let go but perhaps why she felt she didn't fit in.
Whilst you don't have to be posh to go to Oxford, and she went to Edinburgh iirc, it is well known that to break into TV and politics, there's a certain amount of cronyism.

All this just looks like her own reverse snobbery to me.
She may have had a chip on her shoulder, aye.

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MyNameIsFine · 12/04/2024 19:03

TheIcecreamManCometh · 12/04/2024 18:52

You said:

"What I mean is, does it add anything to have made up scenes where mum gives daughter advice about what "people like us" should expect from life?"

I was responding to that.
Her Mum may well have had those conversations.
Not sure why you think they were made up? (SM was exec producer on this, whether that meant script approval, I don't know but I'm not sure that line was artistic licence.

Probably because I am working class, council estate born, first to go to university myself and have recently had similar conversations with DD (that there are people who judge us for where we live, what we look like, that I'm a single mum etc and to ignore the wankers...)

It may have been laid on with a trowel for dramatic purposes, so you root for the protagonist but I could and can relate to it.

We could see all that from the drama - no need to spell it out!
Rude. But yes, I did need to spell it out seeing as you were seemed to be questioning whether there is still a class divide/them and us.
I believe there is. My life experience and profession tells me that levelling up has a long, long way to go. The tories demonise the poor. Those with power and wealth, with such a huge poverty gap, look down on the rest of us.

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Ok, fair enough - can't argue with your experience. I didn't mean to be rude. I just thought we already got the message from seeing her on the bus, interacting with the 'posher' people in the office, the fact mum was looking after the kids, rather than a nanny ... I guess I just prefer more subtle drama, and I'm just frustrated that we're still stuck in 1880. She got hired by the BBC. It shouldn't matter where she grew up or that she's a single mum!

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TheIcecreamManCometh · 12/04/2024 19:21

MyNameIsFine · 12/04/2024 17:44

What came across in the PA interview was his skewed values. He hesitated to call a woman a liar, clearly thinking that would make him look like a cad. So said something like: 'Now, I've been wracking my brains ... could I have had sex with a teenager not much older than my own daughter and just blanked it out of my mind' (Well, I would b**dy well hope not!) 'Well ... no because for a man having sex ... you have to take positive action' (Whereas us women just lie back and can't remember whose dick has been in there! 😂) He'd have been better to say she'd lied!

Agreed.

I think he was advised not to call her out/call her a liar because of poor optics/#metoo/victim-blaming. Instead all we got was "I do not recollect/have to have a thick skin/no message for her."
Total opposite approach to Dershowitz, who VR ended up dropping charges against.

Andrew should have been advised to actually express some sympathy for the victims. He didn't do that. Ah, I misconstrued the "positive action" comment. I hadn't realised he meant active rather than passive/laying back and thinking of England. I thought he'd said sex is a positive action for a man (i.e. clout) so unlikely to forget a notch on your bedpost. Not that that's much better!

I think one woman said he sucked her toes which would link into Fergie's likes /Andy's learned repertoire or was used precisely because they'd got it from the story on Fergie and John Bryan and hoped it added authenticity.

He should have kept silent and ridden out the storm/got aggressive lawyers. I think had it not been the Queen's jubilee and his daughter's wedding coming up, he might have.

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TheIcecreamManCometh · 12/04/2024 19:29

MyNameIsFine · 12/04/2024 19:03

Ok, fair enough - can't argue with your experience. I didn't mean to be rude. I just thought we already got the message from seeing her on the bus, interacting with the 'posher' people in the office, the fact mum was looking after the kids, rather than a nanny ... I guess I just prefer more subtle drama, and I'm just frustrated that we're still stuck in 1880. She got hired by the BBC. It shouldn't matter where she grew up or that she's a single mum!

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WineFlowers Subtle it wasn't. x

It shouldn't matter, you are absolutely right, but you only have to look at some of the flak "difficult" Angela Rayner gets to wonder whether attitudes have changed.
It’s fair that Angela Rayner is subject to scrutiny – but not if it’s based on snobbery | Gaby Hinsliff | The Guardian

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SheilaFentiman · 12/04/2024 22:38

I’m reading her book now - there’s a lot in it apart from the Andrew interview

Smallyeti · 13/04/2024 19:44

I really enjoyed it. I liked how it worked in BBCs need to be ahead of the curve, not sticking to what it’s always done , if it is to survive, and their difficulty in knowing how to go about doing that. The casting was brilliant. Really gripping. I would like to read the book now.

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