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Eurovision 2024

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RunningAndSinging · 01/03/2024 11:01

Anyone interested in the build up this year? I have been more aware this year as the songs are announced. I like Croatia, Ireland and Finland. Dizzy is hopefully going to do well which makes it exciting - Olli Alexander should be good performing live and he is well known in Europe.

Just reading about the controversy with Israel’s entry and I see that Iceland might send a Palastinian singer.

Ukraine have been the favourites for a while but Croatia is just ahead of them now.

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RedToothBrush · 09/05/2024 18:03

Dostadning · 09/05/2024 17:29

I'd have thought if Ukraine won, whoever came second would host?
Not sure.

They would be offered but otherwise big five.

RedToothBrush · 09/05/2024 18:05

One thing we couldn't work out today was the number of empty seats near us.

There were loads. It was supposed to be sold out.

RedToothBrush · 09/05/2024 19:08

1hr to go...

Predictions!!!!?

OublietteBravo · 09/05/2024 19:27

I’m going with the bookies for this semi:
Armenia
Austria
Belgium
Estonia
Georgia
Greece
Israel
Netherlands
Norway
Switzerland

I expect to be at least 80% correct.

CharlotteStreetW1 · 09/05/2024 19:29

RedToothBrush · 09/05/2024 19:08

1hr to go...

Predictions!!!!?

Just hoping for Armenia - and CH for a bit of vocal class. Apart from Czechia, most of the female songs tonight have left me cold.

Nails done.
All packed.
Alarms (multiple) set.

Getting properly giddy now!

RedToothBrush · 09/05/2024 19:39

CharlotteStreetW1 · 09/05/2024 19:29

Just hoping for Armenia - and CH for a bit of vocal class. Apart from Czechia, most of the female songs tonight have left me cold.

Nails done.
All packed.
Alarms (multiple) set.

Getting properly giddy now!

Armenia I think are probably good.

Hope you have a great weekend Charlotte!

RedToothBrush · 09/05/2024 19:41

Good for qualifying I mean.

Sandytoxic · 09/05/2024 20:05

Is there a separate semi 2 thread, or are we just posting here?

mathanxiety · 09/05/2024 22:03

This is a hoot!!!

CharlotteStreetW1 · 09/05/2024 22:16

Hurrah for Armenia!

OublietteBravo · 09/05/2024 22:17

OublietteBravo · 09/05/2024 19:27

I’m going with the bookies for this semi:
Armenia
Austria
Belgium
Estonia
Georgia
Greece
Israel
Netherlands
Norway
Switzerland

I expect to be at least 80% correct.

Only 9/10 right for this semi. But I reckon 19/20 is my highest ever success rate!

(and no one predicted Latvia)

Dostadning · 09/05/2024 22:37

Dostadning · 06/05/2024 10:12

Malta
Greece
Switz
Czechia
Armenia
Latvia
Georgia
Belgium
Estonia
Netherlands

I'd say these for semi-final 2

7/10
Better than I did on Tuesday :-)

Dostadning · 09/05/2024 22:39

Sad for Czechia. Liked that one.

FuzzyCaoraDhubh · 09/05/2024 22:55

Me too. I think it could have been stronger if they had a band onstage.
Such a brilliant song.

RedToothBrush · 09/05/2024 23:29

Italian television has 'accidentally' leaked their voting percentages for tonight (this is Italy only)

Malta 2.19%
Albania 6.68%
Greece 5.29%
Switzerland 6.03%
Czechia 4.48%
Austria 2.84%
Denmark 2.93%
Armenia 5.83%
Latvia 2.91%
San Marino 3.54%
Georgia 6.64%
Belgium 1.68%
Estonia 2.8%
Israel 39.31%
Norway 1.55%
The Netherlands 7.32%

This is a little 😮

No wonder strange things were happening.

RunningAndSinging · 10/05/2024 00:00

I have just finished catching up on Semi Final 2. I loved all the extra bits tonight - a big step up from Tuesday.

Really pleased Armenia went through- I thought they did brilliantly. I still think Switzerland will win - just the standout best song and performance for me especially tonight. Estonia were one that I haven’t heard before and I liked, so I am pleased they went through. Sad about Belgium having loved the song and warmed to Musti on the podcast but his performance just wasn’t strong enough so not that surprised in the end that he didn’t qualify.

Seeing Italy’s televote leak I guess Israel is on people’s minds and just as some people would definitely not vote for them others want to offer their support. Wonder how that will translate on Saturday.

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ahjeez · 10/05/2024 01:43

"Cha Cha Cha" has really influenced this year hasn't it?

Croatia for the win.

CharlotteStreetW1 · 10/05/2024 03:36

Here you go...

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RedToothBrush · 10/05/2024 04:33

That running order is total bollocks.

Ukraine 2nd!
Netherlands 5th?!
Croatia and Switzerland two apart?!
Austria as the finisher?!

Come ON

The only thing that makes sense is the UK 13th cos of the interval.

Lithuania get the horror draw after Israel (throw away upbeat tune).

I hate the EBU.

RedToothBrush · 10/05/2024 05:52

TBF it possibly makes sense but The Netherlands have been sacrificed.

The atmosphere was horrendous during Israel and then that continued during Norway as that's dark and brooding. Then Europapa came on. It's got the message of unity through music throughout it and the atmosphere TOTALLY reversed. There's video footage on twitter of everyone singing Europapa at the station outside the arena after last nights show. Then it took a few minutes for everyone to settle again after it.

So I guess they are trying to harness that power to totally bury Israel. Then following Israel with another upbeat dancey number. That's disposable. Then Spain which got the crowd singing and then Estonia which again was another real crowd pleaser.

But yes looks like they've shaped the first half around that entire issue.

And look at the latest bookies... Israel now second to win.

It'll be impossible for Israel to host due to security issues. And who would want to joint host with Israel?

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CharlotteStreetW1 · 10/05/2024 06:05

The atmosphere was horrendous during Israel and then that continued during Norway as that's dark and brooding.

By fair means or - presumably - foul that didn't come across on TV. Really thought Israel would go out (notwithstanding its quality) but if that RAI vote "leak" is genuine...?

RunningAndSinging · 10/05/2024 06:55

I am loving the Eurovision nostalgia and bringing back of past winners and others. They must be keeping Mans for the final - it would be callous to have left him out completely after all the other Sweden winners have had at least a tribute but mostly been on stage in person (I think all?)

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JacketPotatoFoodOfTheGods · 10/05/2024 06:58

Dizzy is so awful! Is that really the best we can come up with in the whole country?

RedToothBrush · 10/05/2024 07:07

CharlotteStreetW1 · 10/05/2024 06:05

The atmosphere was horrendous during Israel and then that continued during Norway as that's dark and brooding.

By fair means or - presumably - foul that didn't come across on TV. Really thought Israel would go out (notwithstanding its quality) but if that RAI vote "leak" is genuine...?

I'm really really glad it didn't come across on the TV tbh.

It went from everyone enjoying themselves to the entire crowd feeling really divided and there being lots of anger. There were some isolated cheering too but there were also a lot of people who just didn't know how to react or feel. It was so awkward.

I think it's important to make a point here. More casual observers need to appreciate that tickets went on sale in November - so only just after the Hamas attack. Many fans had ALREADY bought flights BEFORE then as soon as the dates of the contest were announced. Pretty sure this was before October 7th. So you have a lot of people financially very committed before thoughts of Israel being a controversy ever really came into being. Certainly it never was a consideration for me (seasoned MNer possibly know I tend to be very aware of political shit).

This put a huge number of Eurovision Fans in a difficult position. Abandoning going would leave them massively out of pocket.

Speaking to some Dutch fans in the hotel yesterday evening who were at the same performance they felt exactly the same as us. Just really uncomfortable about how it played out in the arena. You didn't want to clap because that felt like supporting Israel's response but equally you wanted to be respectful to the artist and clap. Afterall Joost kinda sums up the attitude of bringing people together through music and that's why people go from all over Europe (and the world).

But there were people standing up with their fingers in their ears. Several who pulled out flags and were immediately ejected and were applauded by a fair number of audience members. I don't know whether our block was particularly bad - I tried to look around to see how many other people were ejected after the guy in front of us was thrown out and there was one in the next block and one other one I think. So I think that possibly it was a particularly bad place to be sat tbh.

It did put a downer on the experience. It's not ruined it, but it's taken the shine off it a little. You feel on edge.

There has been that feeling of awkwardness and guilt and not quite knowing how to react especially knowing that a lot of locals are unhappy throughout our time here. Walking down 'Eurovision Street' there are number of Palestinian flags flying out the windows. And obviously we did see protesters outside the Eurovillage.

But we've also come across a lot of happy people and very friendly and helpful locals in Malmö (culturally this differs between Copenhagen and Malmö - my friend says the Danes are like the Dutch but grumpy! Copenhageners are very abrupt to the point it could be thought of as rude, even though I don't think it is).

It's been a fab experience, but yes it's definitely dominating and I think for a lot of the hardcore fans here in Malmö I'd argue they feel it's frustrating. They all came here because of the love of the music and how you mix with so many other nationalities and it's friendly. I guess I feel we've got caught up in almost 'someone else's argument' in a way. The dynamics of the situation in Gaza is different to Ukraine. Ukraine was invaded and has tried to liberate its own people whereas Israel was attacked but it's response doesn't feel proportionate and there's a whole history of oppression there. I dunno. I find it hard to deal with tbh as I think both leaderships are the problem and that it's civilians that are always the victims of that. It's not really an issue I particularly like engaging with for that reason. I don't think my opinion helps anyone tbh. I don't think it's particularly easy to discuss with strangers in the city because you don't really know how they will react. So it's like an elephant in the room following you around really.

I think Saturday night will be tough because I do think artists may be more willing to make a point as they've nothing to lose if they aren't one of the better acts and they've perhaps bottled up how they've felt. I have to consider how we've felt this pressure and consider how the artists feel having been in 'the bubble' for two weeks. It must be so pressured.

Overall I think there's probably a fair number of people like me who did Liverpool and it was amazing and the Malmö has been lower key and had this hanging over it who thinks 'i don't want to do it again next year'. Especially if Israel do compete. I think I want to do it all again at some point but I need a break from Eurovisioning (I've been over here four nights in three hotels in two different places and then travelling into Malmö itself which hasn't helped either).

I dunno, I hope this conveys some of the feeling here properly. I think the TV coverage has tried to either gloss over it as being all lovely or make out that all Eurovisioners are evil Israel supporters. It's neither. As I say, feeling caught in the middle of someone else's argument (and then perhaps being asked your own opinion on such a sensitive and difficult issue in certain scenarios) is the best way I can describe it.

I think it's important to make that point - most people here do just want to have fun and feel that it's not going to help matters to let politics interfere with previously made plans. Trying to shame, moralise or guilt really is unhelpful tbh - it just alienates further and makes me see people as close minded and not willing to acknowledge this is hugely complex as an issue.

It's frustrating.

RedToothBrush · 10/05/2024 07:09

Sorry not to talk about the music but honestly, I think it's something that needs to be said really.

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