22 Kids & Counting Series 4. Sunday 8pm on Channel 5. TV Place No Spoilers

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Sooooooooooooooo

22 kids is back. No doubt most have seen what they have been up to via their instagram /Fb pages but they are back for Christmas social and possibly new series

But I haven't seen it all. Know lots of holidays have been had which has annoyed many who can't afford to heat and eat and go for one weekend away

Let alone countless holidays

But let's see what happens in this Christmas special

Its got so far fetched. Tonight's example was Ellie abandoning her drink and just going home on her birthday night out. They said they went to Lancaster for the night out, so how did she get home? Little stupid fake things like that, but it's got so fake you start to notice every detail. Its not as good as when it first started.

I don't see how the oldest children can afford to pay their parents any rent. The council tax gas electricity and water bills must be colossal!

How will they cope when many of the children are teenagers they will be in their sixties.

Jack is 26. The oldest 4 boys should all rent somewhere together

I get the frustration of the one saying he's just got his own room - possibly the pie shop one

Being one of the oldest you would think having own bedroom would be no 1

Does annoy me the way they say they bring Up 22 kids

One died. Obv very sad but it's only 21 kids they've done anything with

Do any of them work

Apart from the pie shop /Chloe son

Poor Ellie, I felt a bit sorry for her, but Sue & Noel don't seem to be able to make the connection between that and the kids being pimped out for cash & publicity all their lives.

To me it would make more sense for the parents to buy a house that the oldest 4/5 could move to. Given that 4 or so have already moved out (the oldest boy, and the 3 girls who have children), that would leave a dozen kids at home. At least they could get down to a maximum of 2 sharing a bedroom (maybe let younger ones double up and then the teens have their own rooms). As the older ones move on from the second house, make it available for the next oldest ones.

That way they'd have plenty of space, older ones have some independence, and at the end they'd own the second house (which surely they could almost buy outright if they skipped a couple of Disney trips this year).

They seem quite happy to stuff them all in, though, at least until someone has a baby and gets a council house.

I'm getting to the point where I don't even want to watch this anymore as it's soooo scripted and made up, like a really bad drama. I actually feel myself cringing for them at certain points. Ellie is pretty but isn't model material imo, obviously very wrong of people to troll her however. Why can't they just go back to being themselves the way they were in the early series instead of all this fakery!

@HoHoGo now that sounds far too simple and well planned and make sense

Of course to buy the other home they need to sell their 10bed home

How many people want 10 bedroom. Small garden and off road parking

Yes def isn't model material but didn't they do the same with Chloe ? Bf and go to a modelling shoot

Who was looking after the younger kids as all the older ones were out for her 18th

She really vanished for 30m and no one noticed

And got home on her own

Hmmmmm

But the troll comments were out of order

I do wonder if they'd have had quite as many children if their first programme hadn't been popular. As back then they really were supporting themselves and they didn't have enough money for expensive presents and holidays. But more kids equalled more programmes and therefore more 'stuff.' I wonder what the older ones would say about their young childhoods compared to the little ones. Who would think they had the better deal? More attention but less material goods or less attention but more holidays and toys?

It has all changed so much from when the programmes first started. So much is now a non story / totally made up for the camera.

Shame.

and what happened to the shop ?
Once upon a time when Dad was going to retire ( as if ! ) he made a daughter and a son compete to run the factory. The loser was awarded the shop to run.
Now there is no mention of the shop, and both the son and daughter work in the factory.

I have no idea why they would want to move somewhere so rural, that will wreck the social lives of the older children and everyone of them will need to learn to drive asap and Mum and Dad can buy each and every one of them a car :)

I'm dubious the numbers have ever really stacked up for them to be entirely relying on the pie shop. I remember in the very first series when they "only" had 15 kids finding it difficult to work out how they afforded that many children on one wage, although they didn't have the same lifestyle. Food, nappies, pet food, mortgage, bills, clothes, presents not to mention a new pram every year!

The new series is absolute rubbish - made up dramatical nonsense and them flashing their money around.

I think they should go back to how it used to be. Seeing everyday life in a large family, getting the kids to school on time, how much they spend at the supermarket and what food they buy, how they prepare meals for that many kids etc etc.
If I wanted to watch a poorly acted drama I would!!

So 5 of them rent a 10 bed house

They won't be able to cover the mortgage

Ans how thr hell did they afford the mansion farmhouse

Anyone good at finding houses

I went to see the price

How much and where is this house

And will they really want rot drive to school /change schools depending where it is

Oh. Picture didn’t attach

www.rightmove.co.uk/properties/134541287

I don't watch this, so sorry for butting im, but on a similar vein, I've just discovered 'Outdaughtered'.
It's madness, but I can't find a thread in which to hide and discuss it!! Does anyone know about this programme?!

So the question now arises, did they actually buy the house ? as that agent has it as ' off the market ' not as ' sold ' ...

I thought they'd bought land to build a house. What happened with that?

It sounds like there's a lot of dissatisfaction with the latest series. Too fake and staged.

Well done @ironingboredagain 🌟

Folly farm
Folly lane

Tho been taken off the market but can still see it blurred

£850k

Folly lane looks like a dumping ground tbh

@LameyJoliver never heard of it

Where is it shown

Probably more lies for the tv show. On next week’s episode they probably decide they can’t bear to be away from all their DC and stay where they are 🙄

I stumbled across it on Discovery Plus. It's a reality show about parents of quintuple girls. American, of course! TLC shows it. It stayed when they were born - 2016, I think and is absolutely mesmerising (not always in a good way!)