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'Escaping Twin Flames' on Netflix

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scaredofff · 09/11/2023 11:51

EDIT - Documentary is called ESCAPING TWIN FLAMES
Newly added

Just finished watching a 3 part gripping doc about an MLM turned cult

Anybody else watched?

I searched but could only find people discussing whether they believe in a twin flame or not

thread title edited by MNHQ

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Cryingbutstilltrying · 13/11/2023 20:30

I found this series so horrifying. The control over the women was outrageous. Just putting up a list, this person you’ve never met is now your soulmate, get on with it. Change gender because I have declared you are now divine masculine. Give all your time and money to me.
I found it interesting as to what the triggers to leave were for the women who had managed to get out. The ones left in seemed so incredibly vulnerable and their poor parents, that was heartbreaking to watch.
The child of the leader couple, I just cannot believe that with all this horrible evidence she hasn’t been removed from them. Its abuse, pure and simple.
What an evil, greedy man. Hard to believe it’s ongoing tbh.

scaredofff · 13/11/2023 22:54

Omg @LondonLass91 I forgot about that part re: woman sending him 4k - it horrified me too!
He was sitting back in his chair boasting about it
But what made me mad was he was on that zoom with loads of others and not one person had the morals or balls to unmute themselves and say you're a fucking wanker and that's completely wrong. Did they all agree that that is an ok thing to do? They can't have been brainwashed and had every personal opinion wiped

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JMSA · 13/11/2023 23:50

I mean, comparing himself to Jesus. WTAF?!? Shock

scaredofff · 13/11/2023 23:56

JMSA · 13/11/2023 23:50

I mean, comparing himself to Jesus. WTAF?!? Shock

Yes! When he overlaps the pictures of him and Jesus
He isn't the only cult leader to do that. I have saw it happen before. But the fact he did that shows that was his true intention all along to implant that into them

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SlurpSlooChortle · 14/11/2023 00:08

I also couldn't get over the fact it was all done via Zoom! Hang up For gods sake!

JMSA · 14/11/2023 00:26

SlurpSlooChortle · 14/11/2023 00:08

I also couldn't get over the fact it was all done via Zoom! Hang up For gods sake!

Interesting, isn't it? It said at the end that cults have massively risen since Covid/Zoom. Talk about being able to reach a global audience!

I'm glad the penny finally started to drop when members didn't have two tuppence to rub together, and his weirdo wife is swanning about in Chanel!

Only in America, as they say ...

StarShipControl · 14/11/2023 01:23

That Jeff was so uncharismatic. I don't understand how so many people fell under his spell. All that Jesus nonsense lol.
I was really hoping they'd find the twin sister at the end. Now I need to know if they did after the documentary.

Psychoticbreak · 14/11/2023 02:55

I am on episode 3 of this (instead of sleeping) and my jaw has dropped so many times. He is the biggest arsehole walking, so full of self importance. I just geniunely do not understand getting caught up in something like this but certainly not listening to his bullshit. The wife is batshit too.

Psychoticbreak · 14/11/2023 03:23

OH my god he gets worse as it goes on. Referring to women as bitches. Such a rotten man.

Bobtheamazinggingerdog · 14/11/2023 05:37

It was interesting that they were pushing that diet plan you had to pay for that was providing too many calories so the women were gaining weight when shalaia had gained weight. Such a sociopathic couple.

StarShipControl · 14/11/2023 07:02

Yeah that diet plan was weird. Did they drop it?

JMSA · 14/11/2023 07:47

StarShipControl · 14/11/2023 07:02

Yeah that diet plan was weird. Did they drop it?

My personal theory was that in keeping the members overweight, they'd be less likely to find partners on the outside world and more likely to find attraction within the TFU.

catmomof3 · 14/11/2023 14:45

I just watched the one on Prime, plan to start the Netflix one tonight but am shocked that the cult is still operating.

Fawbs89 · 14/11/2023 14:48

I watched the other night! Such a strange group of people. I found it fascinating and strange all at once. The couple who began the group certainly have a nice life style from it! I found the diet plan they made people buy into odd!

BigMandsTattooPortfolio · 14/11/2023 15:08

I listened to the podcast and am yet to watch this. The ‘Twin Flame’ thing is also peddled by new age groups in this country too, it’s not just in the US.

Crimsonripple · 15/11/2023 20:44

I finished watching this today. Honestly what a vile pairing. He's a complete misogynistic fucktard, and she's no better. I honestly don't know how anyone can listen to him and believe the utter tripe coming out of his mouth. The fact they smugly sat there and said about her being found living in a garage and now sat wearing Chanel.

The woman going to prison for breaking her restraining order! I mean come on!

The most disturbing was those who have believed the divine masculine/feminine directive and have transitioned.

And even more disturbing is they've brought a child into it all!

Chrysanthemum5 · 16/11/2023 10:28

Just finishing the final Netflix episode. The whole transition thing is just awful. One thing I didn't understand was that they had a shortage of men so were transitioning women to men, but they had transwomen - why didn't they ask them to transition back to male?

And even just watching Jeff in the programme makes me feel ill, he's so smug.

Bobtheamazinggingerdog · 16/11/2023 11:24

I mean they didn't have many transwomen did they? Certainly not enough to partner with the huge numbers of women. Plus they saw 'man' and 'woman' as performative so in their doctrine the transwomen were performing woman perfectly.
given their numbers were probably 90% female to 10% male (including transwomen) they had to start pairing up women.

scaredofff · 16/11/2023 11:51

I've watched the Prime one now
I find myself focused on Shalaia when Jeff is ranting. Just watching her expression to what he's saying - nothing. She's never shocked, surprised or appalled. She just sits with that glaikit smile in some sort of trance

Or she has earplugs in (which I would too being forced to listen to him)

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Friendsf · 16/11/2023 19:45

Personally, the concept of twin flames I believe is real but very very rare. If you're spiritual, you will understand. They're some decent groups who don't charge for anything and welcome you with an open heart as a community as any other group. And they are not a cult, just a bunch of spiritual people who are on a journey of self discovery and healing, that's all.

However, them two monsters, especially him, who has huge narcissistic tendencies and is money and power hungry should end up in prison. It's awful how much damage him and his partner caused to those innocent people. My heart literally aches for them 💔

catmomof3 · 16/11/2023 20:05

I've now finished both docs and when they said baby Grace can only be pleased by god I felt sick to my stomach because Jeff her dad believes he is god... please tell me I got that part wrong?

funbags3 · 16/11/2023 20:47

Another man, seeking damaged people, to make a buck any way they can. a tale as old as time.

JMSA · 16/11/2023 23:54

catmomof3 · 16/11/2023 20:05

I've now finished both docs and when they said baby Grace can only be pleased by god I felt sick to my stomach because Jeff her dad believes he is god... please tell me I got that part wrong?

Maybe I misunderstood, but I thought they lost or got rid of the baby?
If so, it's a blessing for the child.

Branflakesbreakfast · 17/11/2023 00:07

scaredofff · 16/11/2023 11:51

I've watched the Prime one now
I find myself focused on Shalaia when Jeff is ranting. Just watching her expression to what he's saying - nothing. She's never shocked, surprised or appalled. She just sits with that glaikit smile in some sort of trance

Or she has earplugs in (which I would too being forced to listen to him)

Their ‘twin flame’ relationship seemed so toxic to me. He was constantly talking over her in a really dismissive way. Incredible that it represented some sort of ideal to the followers

Bobtheamazinggingerdog · 17/11/2023 05:06

JMSA · 16/11/2023 23:54

Maybe I misunderstood, but I thought they lost or got rid of the baby?
If so, it's a blessing for the child.

They terminated one pregnancy but she was pregnant and gave birth earlier this year.