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Coleen Rooney - The real Wagatha Christie Story on Disney+

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Netaporter · 19/10/2023 04:06

Anyone else watched it yet?

I Watched this all yesterday (admittedly whilst doing some other domestic stuff so basically listened to it 😂) but found it to be really quite compelling. Thought Coleen Rooney came across really well (was never a fan tbh) but she was open and balanced about everything that had happened to the point of being quite gracious.

Rebekah Vardy on the other hand… after listening to the lawyers discuss the tactics deployed by her team and the journalists involved , just wow. And the denying of being the leak even when faced with undeniable proof was just both breathtakingly stupid and delusional in equal measures. I cannot understand why Jamie Vardy didn’t stop the whole thing in the face of the lawyers first opinion and after disclosure? £3m his wife wasted and as Coleen states she hasn’t been paid her awarded legal costs of £1.8m it does appear that maybe it was money that they didn’t have to lose. Possibly the greatest own goal of all time.

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LadyBird1973 · 25/10/2023 09:22

I think Vardy should be forced to pay the full (and true) costs.
Once she decided to launch that case Rooney had little choice but to go to court. That shouldn't cost her money, when the conclusion was that she told the truth. No one should face a legal bill for being honest!

diddl · 25/10/2023 09:49

Something else-the journalist who said that the stories hadn't come from Vardy or her assistant when they patently had!

What's all that about!

Legendairy · 25/10/2023 10:11

The way that RV was so distraught on TV when it first came out really was manipulative, I admittedly thought CR was attention seeking as it just seemed so ridiculous that RV would be taking her to court if she actually was involved.

RV is a vile woman and CR came across so composed and genuine. She was also very clever how she said 'RVs account' not actually RV to ensure she wasn't specifically accusing her.

I'm really glad I watched it.

LadyBird1973 · 25/10/2023 10:18

I thought the journalist said it wasn't RV. I might be wrong but I thought the assistant wasn't mentioned. If that was the case the journalist hadn't technically lied because their contact was directly with the assistant, although fed from RV?
Might be misremembering though.

Legendairy · 25/10/2023 10:40

LadyBird1973 · 25/10/2023 10:18

I thought the journalist said it wasn't RV. I might be wrong but I thought the assistant wasn't mentioned. If that was the case the journalist hadn't technically lied because their contact was directly with the assistant, although fed from RV?
Might be misremembering though.

Yeah I wasn't really sure if that was the case or if it was purely what PM said and that basically they would never reveal the source as no one would give them a story again, so I took that as maybe suggesting that it was lies that it wasn't RV.

diddl · 25/10/2023 15:39

LadyBird1973 · 25/10/2023 10:18

I thought the journalist said it wasn't RV. I might be wrong but I thought the assistant wasn't mentioned. If that was the case the journalist hadn't technically lied because their contact was directly with the assistant, although fed from RV?
Might be misremembering though.

Ah OK.

I thought that they were both mentioned.

Safariplease · 25/10/2023 15:59

@diddl @LadyBird1973 i think actually the facts were that The Sun didn’t sign those statements saying it wasn’t RV and therefore hadn’t lied because they didn’t sign to anything.

Absolutely loved the doc. CR is a wonderful woman and amazing mother. Their house is stunning. Wayne needs to realise what he’s got and sort himself out. RV is a disgrace and an utter embarrassment. I hope she fails in fame as the nothing that she is.

Shiloh139 · 26/10/2023 09:06

Safariplease · 25/10/2023 15:59

@diddl @LadyBird1973 i think actually the facts were that The Sun didn’t sign those statements saying it wasn’t RV and therefore hadn’t lied because they didn’t sign to anything.

Absolutely loved the doc. CR is a wonderful woman and amazing mother. Their house is stunning. Wayne needs to realise what he’s got and sort himself out. RV is a disgrace and an utter embarrassment. I hope she fails in fame as the nothing that she is.

That's right, the statements weren't signed by the journalists themselves and in fact they weren't statements but Statement Summaries - like a synopsis of what their full statement will say when they eventually serve it.

I'm not sure why they served Summaries instead of statements - assume there was either an order from the court stating that summaries must be exchanged by x date or RVs lawyers/The Sun's legal team thought they'd try this to see if they could scare off CR into abandoning the case.

A PP asked about the offer made by CR to settle. I think it was a 'drop hands' offer, where both sides agree to walk away and bear their own costs of pursuing the claim to that point. CR might have offered to pay a relatively small donation to charity too but I'm not sure about that last point - I'm going from memory of what I read at the time when the arguments about costs began after the judgment was handed down.

Nora1978 · 31/10/2023 07:46

The programme was obviously made to paint a picture of CR as relatable and a good person which I’ve no doubt she is but I still think she was naive to expect her account to stay private and not to realise that RV would experience huge trolling as a consequence of her accusation. If RV did sell CR’s stories to get herself coverage and did send petty jealous messages about CR to her agent, she may have been a desperate and unhappy person at that time. Very easy to gun for someone like that rather than focus on Wayne’s drunken antics which I thought were far more concerning and damaging to CR. That’s why I feel there has been quite a high degree of sexism in all this. What came across more than anything though is that the life of a ‘wag’ is not always an ideal life.

Gloriously · 31/10/2023 08:13

It was RV that stoked the trolling flames though by escalating this to court - this is what gave the whole things legs for years.

I agree that CR deserves are far better lifestyle than a WAG to that creep - she is clearly bright, productive with lots of integrity......IMHO she is would have had a much more deeply rewarding life if she hadn’t been involved with WR but continued her education and developed a career.

Netaporter · 31/10/2023 13:42

I don’t think CR was being naïve, I think it was a reasonable assumption to make that someone also in the private eye (albeit to a far lesser extent) would keep her personal photos shared in a closed group, private. RV’s actions ended up causing CR a huge amount of distress over many years making personal stuff shared with friends public. You might not agree with the way in which it was dealt with, but I can see where CR was going with it. I don’t agree with the huge amount of trolling that went on and I don’t think anyone could’ve believed it would end up being a main story on the 6o’clock news either. RV took CR to court knowing that CR had not libelled her at all - it was found to be the truth by the judge. IMO, she was breathtakingly arrogant in her actions assuming that she thought she could win at all.

I agree that WR is an absolute shit tho. At least they addressed the infidelity issues, unlike the Beckhams. They are a very catholic family and they have been together since school so I’m guessing familiarity and faith both play a part in not separating but who knows?

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martinisforeveryone · 31/10/2023 14:24

I think Coleen and Wayne's marriage is a totally different matter and whatever anyone else thinks of them and their problems, they've sorted them out and it seems clear that they do love each other. He was very supportive during this awful period of Coleen's life. It's not a situation that would do for everyone, but there we are.

Isn't it a well known thing that people in the public eye have one Instagram and X account that their 'fans' can see, often tended by their publicist rather than the person themself and used for PR and promotion. Then there's their private one, which anyone accepted as a follower, should respect is not to be discussed or copied outside of that circle.

It was obvious that Rebekah pushed herself to the fringes of Coleen's circle like it or not, but also from what Coleen said, they were never real friends. Despite that I think Coleen had a right to expect her private family things to be respected. If Rebekah had just said sorry, I granted someone else access to my personal account and I'll look into what happened and make sure it doesn't happen again, then it needn't have blown up as it did. Instigating the court case against Coleen brought her the just deserts she deserved.

Gloriously · 31/10/2023 14:56

CR also IIRC raised it on her private account a few times - so she sent a warning shot to those followers.

The way she set up the sting though looked like she suspected RV from the start.

RV is such a nasty delusional grandiose and manipulative character she through she could just bully her way through this like she likely has done most of her life - a Narc humiliated is something else - but she’s not above the law.

thebellagio · 31/10/2023 20:40

The way she set up the sting though looked like she suspected RV from the start.

possibly, but she’s also not going to admit to suspecting some of her friends is she?

I think the hardest thing for CR was the fact that RV was selling stories to The Sun. Clearly she would have been pissed off, whichever publication it was but to do it to that newspaper knowing the history with Liverpool did pour salt in the wounds

martinisforeveryone · 01/11/2023 09:29

Equally the fact that the stories appeared in The Sun no doubt helped rule out a good proportion of Coleen’s private followers as non starters. You’d think anyone with a football connection to be honest as well as anyone with a Liverpool connection, but then the lure of favourable publicity and promotion and apparently being the secret wag columnist, the lure was too strong. Not that I think Rebekah shows much in the way of empathy.

thebellagio · 01/11/2023 11:42

I think it was glaringly obvious RV was behind the secret wag column - primarily because as soon as CR released her Instagram post, the secret wag column finished a week or two later...

But anyone who threw death threats and abuse at RV needs to take a long look at themselves.

Incogg · 05/11/2023 19:37

On the back of this thread I subscribed to Disney+ for the first time, just to watch this documentary. I don't know anything about footballers or WAGs and didn't really understand this court case.
I loved it! Well worth a month's subscription. I think, whatever the subject, the documentary was very well-crafted.

vjg13 · 05/11/2023 23:15

CR came across so well, bright, articulate, intelligent woman. There was a picture I saw this weekend of the family wearing the Matalan Alder Hey pyjamas, lovely that they continue to help fund raise.

Thisisworsethananticpated · 07/11/2023 09:27

I really liked it
shes actually seems lovely
and I found the trial actually fascinating

She comes across really well

and Rebekah ! Own goal
why on earth did she sue when she knew she was guilty
a life ruining mistake

piers Morgan , utter cunt as ever

vjg13 · 07/11/2023 11:25

I wondered that about RV, seems very odd. Maybe poor legal advice that CR would settle and not go to court and that she would get a pay out?

jay55 · 07/11/2023 13:15

I'll never understand why RV didn't back down, quietly withdraw, rather than go to the extreme of destroying evidence. Given it was obvious what he messages would show.

I can understand thinking they had a case at the start, Coleen could show RV (or team) saw her stories but couldn't prove they sold them to the Sun, rather than telling someone else who then sold them etc, knowing the sun would never reveal a source etc.

Incogg · 07/11/2023 14:40

Why was Piers Morgan included in the series? I couldn’t figure out whose decision that was. Why would Colleen have agreed to that? They must be on good terms.

LadyBird1973 · 07/11/2023 15:46

Better to keep PM on side probably. Look how he is about Megan Markle.

I honestly think RV thought that if the stories weren't given directly by her, but via a third party, then it didn't count as her passing them on to the Sun !

Thisisworsethananticpated · 07/11/2023 21:23

Well I did see that RV is on holiday
so she’s ok

and her husband 😍😍 her posts (one nude back )

however now we know it maybe wasn’t her husband liking her photos

He has to be super pissed with her ? Or a bit , she must have cost them millions

Gloriously · 07/11/2023 23:04

I'll never understand why RV didn't back down, quietly withdraw, rather than go to the extreme of destroying evidence. Given it was obvious what he messages would show.

That would be her default narcissistic personality traits - delusional, grandiose, entitled and arrogant.......then once crossed and shame triggered the Narc rage and histrionic vexation kicks in and never abates.......

If I was CR I would watch my back forever.

IMHO RV isn’t done with her yet.

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