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White House Farm (ITV mini series about Jeremy Bamber and the murders)

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XelaM · 07/07/2023 18:22

Has anyone seen this? I only recently started watching and I think it's very well-made. The acting is brilliant (especially the actors playing Jeremy and Sheila). I think it's bases on Sheila's ex-husband's book.

Spoilers in the unlikely event someone doesn't know the true story

I have always been interested in this case and have in the past thought that the actual evidence against him was very weak and mainly based on the fact that he was behaving badly after/before the murders.

I didn't realise how close the police came to closing the case. Although Jeremy comes off like a total arsehole in the series (and in real life) I can't say his girlfriend Julie fares much better. She kept completely quiet until Jeremy dumped her and let the bodies be cremated and only came forward over a month later once they had broken up.

The way the police handled the evidence was shocking and there are still quite a few holes in the police version of events. The main evidence against him - the silencer - wasn't even found by police, but by the beneficiaries of the estate if he was imprisoned. The house was locked from the inside and even with the faulty latch window it was not possible to get inside the house through that window, only to exit. Julie's initial hitman account proved to be wrong. There was no forensic evidence linking him to the scene and I believe he wouldn't have had time to kill them all and then leave/return in time for the police.

It appears that his behaviour made him a suspect and then they found evidence to fit that theory. He may very well be guilty, but this case was really badly mishandled by the police and he could just as easily have been acquitted based on the flimsy circumstantial evidence.

I was also wondering why he would kill the kids? They weren't going to inherit the estate anyway as long as he was alive.

Was Jeremy Bamber truly "evil almost beyond belief" as the sentencing judge put it or was this a massive miscarriage of justice?

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Toddlerteaplease · 09/07/2023 11:05

It's a really good series. The entire family behaved completely bizarrely.

RoseBucket · 09/07/2023 11:11

XelaM · 08/07/2023 23:29

I've read quite a bit about the case over the years and the series is based on two books that both conclude that JB is guilty (one of them written by the boys' father who had an input into the series). So the series is actually very unfavourable to both JB and Julie.

Have you read the actual Court papers rather than books, it’s really not a complicated case at all.

XelaM · 09/07/2023 11:23

RoseBucket · 09/07/2023 11:11

Have you read the actual Court papers rather than books, it’s really not a complicated case at all.

Do you have a link to the court papers you're referring to? I didn't think a transcript of a Crown Court trial was available to the public (could be wrong).

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Gwenhwyfar · 09/07/2023 19:29

Toddlerteaplease · 09/07/2023 11:05

It's a really good series. The entire family behaved completely bizarrely.

How do you mean about the entire family?

Toddlerteaplease · 09/07/2023 19:41

The cousins, Julie Mugford. I think they moved into the farm house not long afterwards. The only one who calmed across well is the dad to the children.

Gwenhwyfar · 09/07/2023 19:47

Toddlerteaplease · 09/07/2023 19:41

The cousins, Julie Mugford. I think they moved into the farm house not long afterwards. The only one who calmed across well is the dad to the children.

OK. I think the cousins came off OK in the TV adaptation. So what if they moved in?

XelaM · 09/07/2023 20:03

Toddlerteaplease · 09/07/2023 19:41

The cousins, Julie Mugford. I think they moved into the farm house not long afterwards. The only one who calmed across well is the dad to the children.

I agree and from his interviews Colin Caffell seems like a really nice person in real life too. He took JB in to live with him after the murders and really believed JB was a victim. The scene where JB laughingly spikes his hair after a bath to look like the twins did in a photo hanging in Colin's house was one of the moments Colin referred to in an interview I saw. Colin said that's when he started noticing that JB is not really grieving, but putting on an act.

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gemstoneju · 09/07/2023 22:00

I didn't realise that WHF is still standing, and that a relative went to live there, apparently. Now that IS weird. Who on earth could live in a house where five people were murdered? I think I'd even struggle with murders three hundred years ago, never mind in the 1980s. The place should have been razed to the ground out of respect to the victims.
Who lives in White House Farm now? Is White House Farm still standing? | Radio Times

Who lives in White House Farm now? Is White House Farm still standing? | Radio Times

White House Farm location, who lives there and who owns it

https://www.radiotimes.com/tv/drama/white-house-farm-today-2020/

XelaM · 09/07/2023 23:24

gemstoneju · 09/07/2023 22:00

I didn't realise that WHF is still standing, and that a relative went to live there, apparently. Now that IS weird. Who on earth could live in a house where five people were murdered? I think I'd even struggle with murders three hundred years ago, never mind in the 1980s. The place should have been razed to the ground out of respect to the victims.
Who lives in White House Farm now? Is White House Farm still standing? | Radio Times

Yes, the Eaton family (Jeremy Bamber's cousin who inherited everything after he went to prison) moved there. They also were the ones who found the silencer in the cupboard.

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Rob74 · 24/09/2025 18:55

The kids would have got 25% each of the parents' estate (plus anything Sheila had). With them dead, the whole estate would go to Jeremy, and he would also potentially inherit from Sheila if she was intestate or her will failed (because she left it to the kids).

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