Love is Blind season 4, ready for the gold glasses of doom

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Starts tomorrow. There is a very spoilery trailer up now.

I can't wait. Even if they're all awful.

What a disappointing end to the series! Completely ruined by the 'reunion' show and shockingly awful hosts. I think Tiff and Brett, and Zach and Bliss will continue to do well in their marriage. Didn't get good vibes of Kwame and Chelsea, there seems to be an imbalance in their relationship. Feel for Paul and Marshall, they seemed like decent guys, hope they meet their match!

I'm about half way through the reunion. Chelsea and Kwame are coming across much better here than they did in all the other episodes 😄

Zach's response to Irina was perfect but I don't think he needed to defend Paul. Paul's comment about Micah not being nurturing was bitchy and deliberately hurtful. Saying 'I take accountability' to the hosts isn't the same as apologising and admitting he said the thing he knew would hurt Micah most. Interesting that she said they dated after the show too but it was glossed over.

I'm only about a third in. It seems like Kwame is way more in to Chelsea now and she's not bothered. There have been a lot of rumours about him being out on the town alone online, so I expected it to still be his not that into it.

Vanessa lachey looks so different each time, I keep thinking it's a new host. Then she comes out with the terrible questions and I'm like oh it's still her.

Zach looks like John Gallagher jnr. His Instagram posts were so good yesterday. He's done so well to overcome a chaotic upbringing.

It's clear production hate Irina.

I've just finished the whole thing. The reunion was an utter waste of time. thats an hour and a half of my life I wont get back.

I mean, in fairness, you have three happy couples, who really, didn't have a lot of conflict so what is there to say? but my god, Vanessa and Nick are truly awful. They need to ask Andy Cohen to teach them how to host a reunion

I felt for Micah during the Paul section. With Zach adding his piece they were just ganging up on her, and she had a point that Pail should have told her he said those things before she saw it on TV.

I know she did mean things and I can understand Paul holds resentment that she didn't defend him to her awful friends. But in the end he got really personal in his comments and was a dick.

And I thought Chelsea went easy on her earlier in the show but was glad for that in the end.

Marshall came off as delusional, there was no way the wedding was going to happen. Jackie couldn't stand him. The relationship would never have worked. Insisting he would have gone through with the wedding, was batshit.

OK
I have got to know - what onbearthbwas the term Marshall used about Jackie that they won't repeat?! I can't work it out

Something to do with her looking like a man, it seemed. Jackie didn't come off amazingly but I don't think Marshall is the angel he's been made out to be either.

Gosh Vanessa is awful.

I assumed Marshall meant he wanted to stay in; get to the wedding day then say 'no' at the altar. I didn't for one second think he meant they'd get married. He just wanted to finish the process. The entire Marshall/Jackie/Josh segment felt odd. J&J aren't some great love story. But Marshall did seem more complicated and complicit than he appeared during the series. I was hoping Brett would chime in to defend Marshall when he didn't, it made me think maybe Marshall had a good edit.

On a completely shallow note, I loved Chelsea & Kwame's apartment. Those views were amazing! I also liked that the married couples seem to have genuine friendships with each other. That didn't happen with the other series.

Marshall does go on a bit…

No I’m at the singing bit. My ears!!!!!

@CatMattress

starts with t

For real? I quivered if it was a slur used against lesbians that is also a way of diverting running water, but perhaps it was more gender bending of an insult

Quivered? wondered

I think their relationship was really messed up on both sides with insecurity about heteronormative gender conforming behaviour. Marshall said early on that he had been bullied in life for being too emotional to be masculine (paraphrase) so he carries some insecurity about that and then Jackaline said her piece about him needing to "boss up" and "be more aggressive". Earlier in the thing she she said she usually went for the type with tattoos on the neck or something, more rugged - so Josh body slamming and hassling everyone at the party would have been just up her street. I think it quite possible that Marshall (who has a very pretty face and a neat, slight body - the nicest thing Jackaline ever said to him was "you got some pretty eyes on you" which is very double edged in this context) was insecure enough about feeling his masculinity was being seen as not up to scratch, to lash out with some gender-orientated retaliative insult.

"boss up" and "more aggressive" in context gave me a disturbing sense that she wanted to feel forced in the bedroom

He was so sweet when he danced away from her when they first met, at the big reveal. I hadn't seen him so confident, so playful in the show so far, he tended to look brooding and serious in general - and then he did his sexy dance for her along the catwalk - it was cute and sexy but only if you like a playful elegant man

I feel that the women got a much easier ride than the men.

Micah and Irina didn't get challenged enough about their bitchiness.

I don't think Marshall is as nice as he wants people to think he is, but he got a much tougher grilling than Jackie.

Just watched the reunion and I have to make a point-

Micah is 25 and almost all the other women are far older- some even ten years older than her and clearly looking down on her. Her behaviour isn’t actually that unusual for someone of that age- although far from perfect.

On another recent dating show with Nick Lachey- multiple girls were deceitful, duplicitious and cunning and it wasn’t looked down on in the same way. If Irina and Micah misjudged it a little- who can blame them? All the girls were competitive- just in different ways.

I noticed Micah not saying “like” once in the reunion and using bigger words. So it seems she has taken some feedback on board.

Does drinking pair with having kids? No but many people settle down in a ltr and reduce their drinking naturally. Paul’s 2 week experience with Micah where they were handed drinks constantly isn’t really anything to go on.

I think he was right- marriage is far too much to decide upon in weeks if you aren’t certain

I kind of agree @Nounoufgs but it’s a show about love and marriage. It’s not the show to go onto if you get ugly drunk and are ten years away from wanting to settle down.

I don’t think she’s awful but some of the looks she gave the camera reminded me of the presenter in the Hunger Games way too much.

I think she was trying to get the most interesting gossip.

Unless of course you want to be famous!

oh Vanessa. Do shut up about that baby stuff.

Because love isn’t just measured by if you have babies or not.
shut up.

Oh I'd blocked out Vanessa proving about baby plans. That was so uncomfortable

*probing

And Bartise as an example to behold was a very odd choice