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MH370: The Plane That Disappeared (Netflix)
XelaM · 09/03/2023 15:06
Has anyone seen this new Netflix documentary about MH370?
It's just unbelievable that in our time a passenger plane can just disappear without a trace.
I find the conspiracy theories in that documentary totally bizarre, but I also feel very sorry for the pilot's family who has effectively been scapegoated without any real evidence that he brought the plane down. If it was a murder-suicide why would he fly for another 8 hours instead of just crashing into the ocean where he was? It makes no sense. It's also an insane coincidence that two of Malaysian Airlines planes suffered tragedies in the space of just a few months in 2014 - nothing to do with any mechanical issues on the planes.
Nimbostratus100 · 09/03/2023 15:07
why would watching a documentary bring anything new up? No one knows what happened, so there is nothing to do a documentary on.
It will be found one day
NotAnotherBathBomb · 09/03/2023 15:11
It's hasn't disappeared though really, has it? It's just not been found. Bits of it were found after, but the ocean is wide and deep.
XelaM · 09/03/2023 15:12
NotAnotherBathBomb · 09/03/2023 15:11
It's hasn't disappeared though really, has it? It's just not been found. Bits of it were found after, but the ocean is wide and deep.
But almost all the bits that were found from the plane were found by one random bloke who went looking for it himself and it's never actually been established that they were from MH370.
XelaM · 09/03/2023 15:13
And it certainly disappeared from radar so it wasn't even possible to establish for sure where to look for it
prittyfloral · 09/03/2023 15:14
Since when does a documentary need to bring anything new up? Bizarre comment.
By it's very nature it is there to document events 🤣
Yes I watched it. The American guy reminded me of the TikTok ghouls that descended on St Michaels on Wyre last month. Making up bizarre conspiracy theories. That poor pilot.
XelaM · 09/03/2023 15:18
prittyfloral · 09/03/2023 15:14
Since when does a documentary need to bring anything new up? Bizarre comment.
By it's very nature it is there to document events 🤣
Yes I watched it. The American guy reminded me of the TikTok ghouls that descended on St Michaels on Wyre last month. Making up bizarre conspiracy theories. That poor pilot.
Yes, all those conspiracy theorists seemed like vultures trying to cash in on the relatives' grief and despair. It was interesting to me that the Malaysian Airline cabin crew who lost her husband in the MH370 did not believe it was the pilot and felt very strongly about it because she worked with him.
prittyfloral · 09/03/2023 15:22
As for the bloke who "found" the parts on the beach. He was about as trustworthy and genuine as the scammer on the first episode of Parole.
🤣
XelaM · 09/03/2023 15:27
prittyfloral · 09/03/2023 15:22
As for the bloke who "found" the parts on the beach. He was about as trustworthy and genuine as the scammer on the first episode of Parole.
🤣
That's what I thought. He was just randomly walking on beaches and immediately found loads of debris whereas the professional search operation found nothing having been searching many more years
Stoechas · 09/03/2023 15:34
There was a really great podcast about this on Audible.
I found all the silence stuff about the pings and the washed up fuselage/ocean currents really interesting. Basically the forensic elements to the case rather than the speculation about the pilot.
The podcast covered the families and their response to the tragedy really sensitively as well.
Stoechas · 09/03/2023 15:36
I also learnt more than I cared to about flaperons from that podcast.
Starlitexpress · 09/03/2023 16:02
Might be a silly question, but the transponder was turned off so no one could track the plane, but why is it even possible to do that in a passenger jet, why do pilots need to be able to do it?
XelaM · 09/03/2023 16:32
Starlitexpress · 09/03/2023 16:02
Might be a silly question, but the transponder was turned off so no one could track the plane, but why is it even possible to do that in a passenger jet, why do pilots need to be able to do it?
No idea and most importantly, apparently it could also be turned off by anyone else on the plane if the went down to the electronic hatch between first class and the cockpit. I don't understand how that's not a security risk.
HavfrueDenizKisi · 09/03/2023 16:54
Don't forget that the documentary portrays what it wants to and leaves out some info that don't fit their narrative. (I have watched it too).
A reasonable google tells you that the main debris prices were found by different people in varied places for one. The doc doesn't.
The pieces found do link back to MH370 with serial nos and repaint jobs that are in the service records of that plane. Doc doesn't mention this. Actually suggests the opposite.
Etc etc.
The alternate theories are odd - the hijack one didn't even have a stab at a motive for such action. As often is the case in these mysteries, usually the most obvious explanation is the one that has happened. (Case in point: Nicola Bulley disappearance and all the speculation).
I feel desperately sorry for the grieving families. They are looking for answers when we really don't have any yet.
The South Indian Ocean is huge. It's no real surprise that the plane hasn't been found.
coolmum123 · 09/03/2023 16:56
@Stoechas what was the name of the podcast please?. There is a really good MH370 doc on Paramount plus. Talks to families, other cabin crew. It's the most current in terms of the search. We don't have Netflix so can't watch this one
notimagain · 09/03/2023 17:04
Starlitexpress · 09/03/2023 16:02
Might be a silly question, but the transponder was turned off so no one could track the plane, but why is it even possible to do that in a passenger jet, why do pilots need to be able to do it?
At least a few of reasons...
It's nice to have an off button/switch on most things electrical in case it burst into flames.
Even if it didn't have an on/off button it would have to have a circuit breaker (protection from short circuits), so you could still turn it off by pulling the breaker
Even if it didn't have off switch or a circuit breaker it's possible on some aircraft somebody really determined with technical knowledge could find a work around to de-power it if you understood the electrical system.
On a more day to day basis and leaving aside thoughts of wrong doing if the transponder is not turned off say, after parking, the box then sits there pinging away, electronically yelling at Air Traffic Control. That state off affairs could continue even when perhaps the aircraft is uncrewed but left powered up (which is often done for maintenance.
There's then the potential to clutter up ATCs screens with useless, outdated transponder returns, so one of the standard things on aircraft shutdown is to turn the transponder off (you can see that happen on the tracker sites like Flightradar).
HTH
SchoolTripDrama · 09/03/2023 17:04
@XelaM Actually yes they have been confirmed to be from MH370. The serial numbers matched.
SchoolTripDrama · 09/03/2023 17:06
Also the debris pieces were not found by that one random man, they were found by members of the public. The random man has since found one piece - all confirmed to be from MH370
SchoolTripDrama · 09/03/2023 17:13
In response to those who will no doubt try saying The Guardian isn't a reliable enough source - here is a press release from the People's Republic of China government's website confirming this
SchoolTripDrama · 09/03/2023 17:13
EmptyPlaces · 09/03/2023 17:16
Because if he just dived into a mountain like the Germanwings pilot, they’d have all the information needed to prove it was pilot suicide.
Hence flying somewhere that it wasn’t supposed to be, in the middle of the ocean and waiting for the fuel to run out. To make it as difficult as fucking possible to even find the crash site let alone discover what happened.
GracePooleslaugh · 09/03/2023 17:20
He ran this flight on his home simulator.
And yes the pieces are from the plane.
EmptyPlaces · 09/03/2023 17:24
I don’t know why the airlines don’t just stick with the two person cockpit rule.
They didn’t learn from this
en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/LAM_Mozambique_Airlines_Flight_470
And then just a year after Germanwings, this
www.eurocockpit.be/news/end-2-persons-cockpit-rule-sight
Baffling.
takeaflight · 09/03/2023 17:31
The transponder is basically a transmitter that the pilot selects four numbers, given by a controller to identify the aircraft, eg 1234 this then seen by the controller. However there are codes that can be selected by the pilot to inform a controller that the aircraft as a problem, eg radio failure, hijacked or a Mayday situation. When transitioning from one control area to another it can be common practice to turn the transponder off On to standby, so as not to accidentally select a code that would trigger an alarm.
I believe MH370 was leaving one area for another.
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