MH370: The Plane That Disappeared (Netflix)

[XelaM]

Has anyone seen this new Netflix documentary about MH370?

It's just unbelievable that in our time a passenger plane can just disappear without a trace.

I find the conspiracy theories in that documentary totally bizarre, but I also feel very sorry for the pilot's family who has effectively been scapegoated without any real evidence that he brought the plane down. If it was a murder-suicide why would he fly for another 8 hours instead of just crashing into the ocean where he was? It makes no sense. It's also an insane coincidence that two of Malaysian Airlines planes suffered tragedies in the space of just a few months in 2014 - nothing to do with any mechanical issues on the planes.

I am fascinated by mh370. I think this is what happened:
www.wired.com/2014/03/mh370-electrical-fire/

Essentially an electrical fire, pilot was trying to land at a nearby air field, hence turning off course, but then they all became unconscious and the plane flew for 6 hours in a straight line until it sadly ran out of fuel and crashed.

This is more believable to me than a murder/suicide where the pilot continues to fly for hours and hours until petrol runs out. It's just a very odd plan that could easily go wrong.

I’m baffled by the fact you could just open that hatch and basically control the entire plane from down there, not even so much as a lock on it.

The reality is whilst you might be able to turn some systems of from that bay can't control the entire plane from there.

Surely that isn’t the case now?!

That's one off those 🤐things.

(Thinks: A netflix docu on this presented by somebody who actually knew the technical side of this would I suspect end up not being aired...)

I didn't call it 'dark' forces. I called it greater forces. And I'm not the only one expressing this sort of opinion. Not sure why you have to challenge just me on this.

Why don't they lock the hatch?!? 😳

The plane was on autopilot once it's been turned so (if my completely untechnical) understanding is correct- even if both pilots are unconscious the plane would still continue to fly until if runs out of fuel?

I think that sounds quite believable.

A question about the black boxes for those who know - how long can recordings on them survive under water? If it so happens that the MH370 if found at the bottom of an ocean in years to come, is there any chance at all the black boxes could still be listened to?

Apologies, ‘greater’ forces, perhaps that was Freudian slip on my part there! Your comment stood out to me, are you able to explain why you feel the way you do? I am genuinely interested in other opinions on this with evidence.

That's sort of the crew oxygen bottle theory I've been mentioning on several posts.

Problem with it is you have to have a fire that only knocks out comms (SSR, ACARs) but leaves all the autopilot modes intact, or at least intact to give 8 hours straiht and level flight.

Given the "boxes" for comms, autopilot are all in the same small electronics bay it's hard to reconcile, that's why it's considered something really unlikely.

Medium - MH370 article

This is a long but fascinating article on the disappearance. Concludes that it pretty much must have been the pilot. It’s all so very sad.

Good article.

I don't think it was the pilot. There was no hint of any kind of issue with him at all, even the official investigation eventually cleared him of any involvement. I tried to apply an Occam's Razor type approach, that's why i think its a fire / similar that incapacitated the crew. I have zero technical knowledge obvs! But the author of that Wired article is a pilot and seems to think its possible.

Such a mysterious case.

If it was a murder-suicide why would he fly for another 8 hours instead of just crashing into the ocean where he was? It makes no sense

Life insurance won't pay out for suicide for obvious reasons. So a heavily insured person with dependents, planning suicide by plane would make sure the plane went down so remotely and deep no evidence/proof could ever be retrieved. They would behave normally until most passengers were asleep, so nobody sent home a message saying "There's this guy in seat 20/in pilot uniform behaving really weird"

Or he sticks the autopilot on after killing everyone with oxygen deprivation and takes an overdose.

@coffeeschmoffee

I have zero technical knowledge obvs! But the author of that Wired article is a pilot and seems to think its possible.

The author doesn't mention what he flew.

FWIW this former 777 pilot with technical knowledge (who has even been in the mysterious bay people are mentioning) reckons the fire scenario, whilst not impossible, is highly highly unlikely, and the sequence of events with comms etc is highly indicative of deliberate acts.

HTH

In the unlikely event they find the black boxes of MH370 some time in the future, is there any chance the recordings could have survived under water for so long?

He would have had to kill the co-pilot and crew as well though and their oxygen lasts longer as I understand it

Good question, don't know.

For info the recorders on AF 447 were able to provide usable info even after being submerged at depth in the Atlantic for about two years...

One thing I didn't know that came out if this documentary is that the relatives were dialling the numbers of the passengers on MH370 even after it disappeared and the numbers had a ring tone. And in one case, one child received a call from her dad's number who was on the plane but she wasn't quick enough to pick it up. I've never heard about this before the Netflix documentary. Does anyone know if it's true? Apparently, the family members were asking Malaysian authorities to trace the numbers, but were told such technology didn't exist? 😨Surely that would have beeb the easiest way to find them?!?

He would have had to kill the co-pilot and crew as well though and their oxygen lasts longer as I understand it

Not sure if MH used gaseous or ring main oxygen in the cabin but certainly generally you'd expect supply of oxygen to the flight deck to last a lot longer than the supply to the cabin..

I found the first episode interesting. My personal opinion is that the pilot did it but I’m open minded about most other theories.

But I thought the Russian terrorist/hijacking theory was so ridiculous that I had to turn it off.

Couple of posts back "used gaseous or ring main oxygen" should have been "chemical generator or ring main"

Mobile phones and airplanes. It would have been too high/too far from a tower for most of the time, I think

edition.cnn.com/2014/04/14/tech/mobile/phones-in-flight/index.html

But I thought the Russian terrorist/hijacking theory was so ridiculous that I had to turn it off.

Yes, that was ridiculous, particularly when they started talking about "poor" Kazakhstan. Can't say the theories in this documentary get any better from there.

I feel infinitely sorry for the French father who lost his wife and two kids and I completely understand why he wants to continue fighting for answers, but I don't think his theory of "The Americans are behind it" makes sense.

Ah thank you. Isn't it utterly gut-wrenching that had that child answered the phone from her dad on that plane quick enough, the families might have had an answer about what happened on that plane?