MAFS OZ UK starting 6 March

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Let's get started! Please no spoilers

My opinion has grown exponentially about 9.5. I absolutely love how she utterly destroyed Harrison and called him out on his bullshit.

He is really good at this gaslighting thing for sure. It's as if this isn't his first rodeo.

It is disappointing that none of the men have called Harrison out from what we have seen. They are all lapping up his "poor me" song like that's the only song there is.

I feel like the intervention from the experts should have been immediate then, Harrison is a world class manipulative prick.

But, but think of the ratings...

I expect Jesse will leave. He's awful and so immature.

Just saving my place on the thread!

Im in

Yep, 9.5 nearly reached a 10 for me.

I've started to feel sorry for Cameron as well. I don't think he'll be able to handle Lyndalls illness.

I think Bronte is really pretty! Hadn't notices the weird eyes! Conversely 9.5 looked plainer at rhe dinner party but is clearly very canny and I warmed to her.

I’m not sure about Jesse yet. He seems to have no filter at all, literally exposing his deepest insecurities about his fear of being emasculated and becoming needy. I think he spoke the truth for many men tbh.

For all her talk about emotional intelligence and communication, Claire didn’t know what to do with that at all.

I am truly gobsmacked that anyone could see anything in Jesse other than what you see in front of you. He's hugely immature and obviously has loads of hang ups but that doesn't excuse how nasty and hurtful he is. Even dh thinks he's an arsehole (Yes dh is now invested 😄😶)

I'd put money on him being gay and totally unable to accept it.

Jesse just doesn't have the emotional intelligence to handle this situation. His bride has completely out Jesse-d him and it's knocked him off his orbit. Conversely, Claire has totally taken to heart his criticisms of her. Through sheer bad luck (and crassness) he's hit all of her insecurities. She's in a place of shame and can't escape. It's almost as if they were deliberately mismatched 🙄

Was it on here that someone compared 9.5 to Janice from the muppets?

I’m not sure Jessie is nasty. He wasn’t putting her down to win an argument or put her in her place. He finds some of her traits challenging and she wasn’t getting it.
He’s not sulking or being passive aggressive but seems to be genuinely unsure what to do next.
Clare has now walked out twice. I’m not sure what she wants him to do given she has no intention of changing anything she does ( nor does she have to). You can’t give up yourself and then expect the other person who finds you difficult to “chase you”.

@DDoOneRon OMG so yes! Janice. 😂

She seems a bit more switched on suddenly with her insights into Harrison. I think she’s probably ok and just a bit of a crap actress ( that wedding looked suspiciously contrived).

Sometimes I think I'm watching a different programme! Jesse was nasty, he's quite happy to hurt Claire who apart from being chatty did nothing wrong. Of course he should have gone round to apologise to her 'I don't chase girls' what a numpty. He has no emotional intelligence whatsoever, he has a rigid script for a personality and will clearly never change.

I don’t think Jesse likes women in general, he is very ready to dismiss them as “girls” and “chicks”. He is very good at putting on a performance for the wedding and the cameras, but he doesn’t seem to have any awareness of how his actions have impacted Claire. She walked into that wedding totally confident in herself and has now been diminished by him.

No he seems very misogynistic. Can't wait for him to inevitably leave.

Jesse on the spectrum?

He certainly lacks awareness of others' feelings. He only sees things from his point of view.

Apparently Claire asked him that on the honeymoon and he was really offended (they cut it out) and friends have confirmed he is not autistic.

I googled it actually in case I was being unduly harsh.

He kind of reminds me of a client I worked with a while ago who had a diagnosis of autism, but I privately wondered if there was something else going on instead (or maybe as well). Vulnerable/covert narcissism or similar.

Maybe just a defence mechanism to stop himself getting close to anyone (ie. Picking out their faults because they can spot his). He's an interesting character and think he will watch himself back and be really upset that he didn't stop himself from falling into that pattern again.

I have a male friend with ASD who is very similar to Jesse in that he has a long list of small details that put him off women. He is also judgemental over behaviour - but he is very sweet and funny too unlike Jesse.