Nicola Bulley Ch 5 9pm tonight

[Wilma55]

Couldn't see a thread on this....

I’m guessing the statement was put out with the family’s permission.
They clearly don’t have a problem with it.

It has been searched over and over again. If you bothered to listen to the expert recovery team they said it was impossible for her to drown there or if by some miracle she had, it would be next to impossible that she would float downstream. I am not expecting her to turn up in the river. Nor is anyone else.

The police have jumped to the wrong conclusions influenced by their assumptions she was drunk or suicidal etc.

Yep - alcoholic menopausal woman, seems a very strange update. I wonder what her doctor thinks of the statement. Who released this information? If from anyone other than her Doctor, then you have to wonder is there potential for a smear campaign?

People are horrendous - almost 20 years ago a woman I knew suffered an accident at home and lost her life home alone..... She had previously had some mental health struggles, there was an automatic presumption she had taken her own life. That was not the case. Excessive gossiping is in really bad taste.

The police have jumped to the wrong conclusions influenced by their assumptions she was drunk or suicidal etc.

How on earth do you know what assumptions the police have made or what they drew any conclusions from? I'm pretty sure they know a hell of a lot more than you do!

If this poor woman did drown herself I think she and her family should be left in peace and this TV programme is in bad taste.

Alcohol is often used to self medicate MH issues which can arise or sorsen during the menopause.

For a team of medical people to be called to her home something really serious must have happened in the weeks running up.

I have only known of something like that if e.g. someone needs sectioned (this is why they need more than one person)

worsen

Really?

People commit suicide knowing their families will find them. Don't think you'd be much arsed about a dog if you're in that frame of mind!

Maybe not twitter.com/TalkTV/status/1625942324860620815

I'm pretty sure her partner is controlling what information is released by the police.

Umm they said do themselves. The investigation was based on the high degree of vulnerability. Clearly they totally dismissed criminal third party involvement based on their flawed theory that she was in the river. Based on no evidence whatsoever.

The more I think about this the crosser I am.

If I went missing, regardless of the reason (and I still think the most likely thing is that she sat down to attend her work meeting, her dog's ball went in the river and she thought she could get it back but slipped), I would not want the information they released to be made public. It achieves nothing and it is nobody's business.

Police don't visit you because you are menopausal and drink a bit more than you know you ought to! There was a clearly a significant incident at their house.

I thought her partner seemed very loving and caring when interviewed but given this information, I think it was unwise to paint a rosy picture. Trust me, I know all kind of things go on behind closed doors and I never judge people, but his picture wasn’t entirely accurate.

They’d be extremely busy if they did!

I wonder why did the family and friends initially stated she had no mental health issues?

But how do you know it's 'the wrong conclusion' ?

You can have an issue with alcohol and be menopausal without having significant mh issues. The professionals with the police could have been anyone.

It was also medics? Not just police. When you think it can take hours for an ambulance to arrive yes this must have been very serious.

I myself have severe MH problems and for something like a severe psychotic episode the NHS can send 2 people (usually a MH nurse and a psych) to assess you at home in an emergency. I know, it has happened to me. But it has to be pretty serious.

They haven’t actually found her so any conclusion is premature.

I don't think if it was physical health they would need more than one doctor? Or if it was a serious physical emergency they would have sent an ambulance.

When Nic Degraff fell into the River Derwent in Cumbria last winter, it took several weeks for his body to be recovered. He was found by a trawler vessel in the harbour a few miles from where he fell in. There were searches for him that turned up nothing for the first few weeks as well.

But he was last seen at 5am and wasn’t reported missing until 12.40 pm . That’s a long time to lost and being in the water. Nicola was missing a couple of hours tops near water in a defined area. Should be much easier to find her especially if the police strongly thought she’d gone in right from the start.

I don’t think we should speculate who visited the house, it could have been SS, community nurses, paramedics, mh team etc.

What we do know is bring menopausal and alcohol issues does not automatically mean you end up in a river. This is a game of deflection played by the police.

Yeah, sorry my wording is off. I mean, there were potential factors that could explain/influence her disappearance that were not mentioned. I don't agree with the level of detail, but even alluding to she was going through a difficult period is better than "nope, everything was peachy, totally unexpected, wouldn't imagine any possible factors affecting her judgement"

because NOW the police are having to 'clarify' by airing her personal business in a bid to save face, and it's so gross.

I'm peri and it has massively effected my mental health and life. I often think of running away, starting a new life away from everyone I know and love. It was something that I wondered about as she is a few years older then me.

And yet you have literally just stated that she is not in the river. So your conclusion is OK but everyone else's is premature?

You seem awfully invested? Need to fess up to something?