22 kids and counting s3. Sunday ch 8pm

[Blondeshavemorefun]

New thread for new series

obviously all this has happened in the past year

they would have been better filming this as it happened and showing it

as we have seen all their trips on Facebook and instagram if on it

E 1 - Chloe’s pregnancy takes a worrying turn

[welcome2023]

Don't know if I can have watching

• endless luxury holidays afforded while no one works
• bakery with overdue orders and Noel never there
• pretending YouTube / exploiting kids isn't their 90% income stream
• neglect of children particularly emotional neglect, physical neglect eg appalling teeth, cramming kids into teeny rooms to enable adults to live in house for better YouTube and Instagram photos and content
• glossing over lack of careers / employment or trades for 50% of the kids now over 16
• failure to mention immature / irresponsible parenting by Mille and abuse to girlfriend by Daniel plus ongoing situation Chris and Nicole and her 3 abandoned grandkids

Wish they'd be honest and save money and start funding deposits for kids futures
And show kids succeeding academically and career wise. Otherwise what's the point ? Stuffing your family forever with useless dependents ??

[RichardOsmansXraySpecs]

Thanks @Blondeshavemorefun for a shiny new thread not sure it’ll last long though, if posters say what they really think of them.
So much bragging these days, it’s positively obscene.

[Blondeshavemorefun]

Yes let’s try and not get this pulled

my other one didn’t …….

but yes when so many are struggling just paying for life and bills

and they go on countless holidays

[Fizbosshoes]

If anyone questions how they afford numerous holidays, cars, hot tubs, motor homes etc the answer is always "hard work" and people mention the pie shop. The pie shop income is nowhere near enough to cover all that, and it's silly to try and pretend or believe that it is.
Instagram and YouTube must surely be their main income stream now.

I think Noel works 4 days a week at the bakery/pie shop and is home for school drop off, pick up, most of the school holidays, and several weekends or short breaks....and Sue is at home, doing their social media (I think) so I'd say they don't necessarily work any harder than an average couple working ft.

[BedknobsNoBroomsticks]

The 'hard working ' thing annoys me. There are so many people who work hard and yet can't even afford to turn their heating on.

They don't work hard in the bakery/pie business, Noel's never there. He's been on 10 of the 11 holidays that they have had this year, he doesn't work Mondays and doesn't seem to work weekends either as they always seem to be away in the campervan that is miles too small for their family.

[Blondeshavemorefun]

Hardworking is lots of us

bur can’t afford numerous holidays

will have one abroad. Saved all year to afford it

but know many can’t even afford that

[SpongepantsSquareBob]

I'm surprised the previous thread wasnt pulled too, hope this thread stays. Its interesting to hear other views.
I honestly don't think I can watch the new series. Mostly cos we've all seen the luxury hols and spends already. I just find them too much.
Agree with PP, I would love to see at least one child make something of themselves, go to uni, join the RAF and succeed. Instead of working for the amazing pie shop.
Or just have loads of kids, cos thats the real family business.

[BedknobsNoBroomsticks]

One of the older boys did join the RAF but only lasted a couple of weeks. Chloe went to uni but only lasted a short time. I don't think sue and Noel want their kids to grow up and be independent.

[Blondeshavemorefun]

It must be hard being part of a huge family

ans seeing your family /parents slagged off all the time

[Mummyof287]

I used to like the programme when it first began (when it was '15 kids and counting' or something!) But it's become much more 'reality tv' than 'documentary' now, overdramatised and just an opportunity for them to show of their latest expenses.

I don't think they don't come across as 'bad' parents in the show, but obvuously we dont know what happens behind closed doors, and I always wonder how much quality time they actually spend with each child....there seems to be alot of sitting on screens going on, and older siblings playing parenting roles...after all it would not be humanly possible for two adults to meet the needs (especially emotional) of all those children properly, which makes it sad they had so many and I do find it selfish tbh.

[buildingourdreams]

@welcome2023

Don't know if I can have watching

• endless luxury holidays afforded while no one works
• bakery with overdue orders and Noel never there
• pretending YouTube / exploiting kids isn't their 90% income stream
• neglect of children particularly emotional neglect, physical neglect eg appalling teeth, cramming kids into teeny rooms to enable adults to live in house for better YouTube and Instagram photos and content
• glossing over lack of careers / employment or trades for 50% of the kids now over 16
• failure to mention immature / irresponsible parenting by Mille and abuse to girlfriend by Daniel plus ongoing situation Chris and Nicole and her 3 abandoned grandkids

Wish they'd be honest and save money and start funding deposits for kids futures
And show kids succeeding academically and career wise. Otherwise what's the point ? Stuffing your family forever with useless dependents ??

👏🏻

I hate them

They're trashy.

[Mischance]

It slightly bugs me that so little is said about the fact that he impregnated her when she was 14.
There is something pathological about not being able to stop reproducing.

[Goldpaw]

@Mischance

It slightly bugs me that so little is said about the fact that he impregnated her when she was 14.
There is something pathological about not being able to stop reproducing.

I agree. Lots seem to want to brush it under the carpet by saying they're still together. But she was a child and he wasn't.

[MugginsOverEre]

@Mischance

It slightly bugs me that so little is said about the fact that he impregnated her when she was 14.
There is something pathological about not being able to stop reproducing.

To make it worse, she wasn't 14 yet.

40 weeks before her first child was born, she was only 13years and 4 months old. She was barely over 14 when he was born.

(I once had an argument with someone defending nasty Noel so it was easy enough to work out and prove it)

[MugginsOverEre]

And he was nearer to 18 than 17 too.

[Blondeshavemorefun]

Yes tech he should have been done for rape

surprised parents didn’t do more to make it happen

but if I carry on this thread will be zapped. So I won’t lol

[Puffalicious]

Funnily enough they came up in conversation yesterday at a family get together for DN's birthday. Interestingly my Dsis said the classic 'But they have a business and support themselves' . This message is obviously getting through to people! I wish I'd known that 90% of their income is now from social media.

DBro strongly put forward the opinion that It's a MH issue wanting so many children/ being obsessed over the 'baby' stage and those children are emotionally neglected.

Everyone agreed It's an environmental nightmare.

[Whowhatwherewhenwhynow]

“There is something pathological about not being able to stop reproducing.”

This^
ive never watched many of their shows or any of the newer ones. I have always thought there is something very unusual about their desire to keep having so many children, way beyond what is practical to manage. I once wondered if it was linked to their own childhoods or need to feel loved/needed. Certainly I don’t think the children benefit from having so many children).

[Goldpaw]

@MugginsOverEre

To make it worse, she wasn't 14 yet.

40 weeks before her first child was born, she was only 13years and 4 months old. She was barely over 14 when he was born.

(I once had an argument with someone defending nasty Noel so it was easy enough to work out and prove it)

I didn't know that and I expect they keep quiet about it.

I went googling and came across an article that mentions her age now, her age when she had her first baby, but doesn't mention anything about his age at all.

Apparently they were both adopted as babies, so perhaps that has something to do with the need to create a big family, which is understandable.

I also read they now have 10 grandchildren!

[Limer]

Looking forward (with grim expectation) to the new series.

I think Sue's still stuck in the mindset of a young teenage girl, loving the attention that pregnancy and a newborn attracts. Now her fertile years are over, she's building a collection of puppies instead of babies. I don't like Noel at all, he's bright enough to understand that having so many children just isn't fair to any of them, but those poor children are just props for his fame and lifestyle. I wonder if the last six would even be here if it wasn't for the media interest.

[MuddlingThroughLife]

Sue comes across as very immature and totally clueless. If anything ever happened to Noel I don't think she is capable of full on adulting.

[Whowhatwherewhenwhynow]

@MuddlingThroughLife

Sue comes across as very immature and totally clueless. If anything ever happened to Noel I don't think she is capable of full on adulting.

Do you think she’s immature or (and I’m trying to find a way to say this that doesn’t sound awful but I can’t) just has lower cognitive level than the average adult.

[BabyFour2023]

@Whowhatwherewhenwhynow

Do you think she’s immature or (and I’m trying to find a way to say this that doesn’t sound awful but I can’t) just has lower cognitive level than the average adult.

I think, like many abused children, she is stuck at the age she was at the time of the abuse. This is why I think she gets so excited and overwhelmed at basic, day to day things.

[middleager]

@welcome2023

Don't know if I can have watching

• endless luxury holidays afforded while no one works
• bakery with overdue orders and Noel never there
• pretending YouTube / exploiting kids isn't their 90% income stream
• neglect of children particularly emotional neglect, physical neglect eg appalling teeth, cramming kids into teeny rooms to enable adults to live in house for better YouTube and Instagram photos and content
• glossing over lack of careers / employment or trades for 50% of the kids now over 16
• failure to mention immature / irresponsible parenting by Mille and abuse to girlfriend by Daniel plus ongoing situation Chris and Nicole and her 3 abandoned grandkids

Wish they'd be honest and save money and start funding deposits for kids futures
And show kids succeeding academically and career wise. Otherwise what's the point ? Stuffing your family forever with useless dependents ??

Add to this, seeing the older female children doing the lion's share of chores/babysitting, and not the males.

[Exhausteddog]

I remember seeing one of the first programmes in iirc around 2012. Sue was holding/tending to a newborn and several of the others were fighting/scrapping. Later she and Nowel were laughing at how many tvs had got broken and they weren't sure how or why. It seemed really chaotic ( I'm pretty laid back but I'd want my kids to have a consequence if they broke something expensive like a tv) . I've always thought it must be almost impossible to have a sense of routine for a baby/toddler when there's so many children and pets to try and meet their needs