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MsLatté’s Daebak Cybercafé (Kdrama addicts #38): Where we’re still reeling from the 2022 top 5 scoring Jdrama First Love v Alchemy of Souls kerfuffle. What can I say? Takeru Satoh broke our scoring rubric.

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boatyardblues · 02/01/2023 19:50

A quiet corner of MN for serious addicts of Kdrama, or the K-curious. Most of our shows are on Netflix and Viki, with a sprinkling of AmazonPrime, AppleTV and Disney+. There are also platforms streaming content illegally if you go looking. We don’t promote them as they are peppered with pop-ups of “Olga” and friends offering a good time, but we can point you in the right direction. We also dip into Japanese, Taiwanese & Chinese drama as & when.

The previous thread is here but our list is cumulative so includes recommendations and favourites from all previous threads. Shows marked with a star are more uniformly loved or admired. In categorising series, its important to note most Korean dramas have multiple strands - e.g. supernatural, romance and a thriller; crime series with fantasy elements. Genre-busting mash-ups are normal. Series that are tagged as dark may also have moments of comedy or the absurd, likewise fluff can have heavier moments. Writer/actor Simon Pegg referred to it fondly as “tonal chaos” - it’s part of kdrama’s charm. View the categories below as best approximate & ask if you need guidance about suitability for younger viewers.

Comedy (with a side order of absurd)
I picked up a celebrity on the street (Viki)
My Fellow Citizens (Viki/Netflix)
The Fiery Priest (Netflix)

Crime/Thriller
Come and Hug Me (Dramafast)
Graceful Family (Viki)
Healer (Netflix)🌟
Heartless City (Viki)
He is Psychometric (Viki)
I Hear Your Voice (Netflix /Viki)
Life on Mars (classy remake of BBC series, no major site yet)
Little Women (Netflix)
My Name (Netflix)
My Secret Terrius (Netflix)🌟
Signal (Netflix)🌟
Somebody (Netflix, content warning: sexual & violence)
Snowdrop (Disney+)
Stranger - 2 seasons (Netflix)
Suspicious Partner (Netflix)🌟
The Lies Within (Netflix)🌟
Tunnel (Netflix)🌟

Historical/Period drama (“sageuk”)
100 Days My Prince (Viki/Netflix)
Crowned Clown (Viki/Netflix)🌟
Mr Queen (Viki)🌟
Mr Sunshine (Netflix)
Pachinko (AppleTV)
Rookie Historian Goo Hae-Ryung (Netflix)
Tale of Nokdu (Viki/Netflix)🌟
The King’s Affection (Netflix)
The Red Sleeve (Viki)🌟

Romance - lighter & fluffier
Beating Again (Netflix)
Business Proposal (Netflix)
Coffee Prince (Netflix)
Dali & the Cocky Prince (Viki)
Don’t Dare to Dream (Netflix, or as Jealousy Incarnate on Viki)🌟
Gogh, The Starry Night (Viki)
Happy Once Again (Netflix)
Her Private Life (Viki)🌟
His Master’s Sun (Netflix)
Hometown Cha Cha Cha (Viki)🌟
Love from a Star (Netflix)🌟
Lovestruck in the City (Netflix)
Monthly Magazine Home (Viki)
Pinocchio (Netflix)
Radio Romance (Netflix)
Romance is the Bonus Book (Netflix)🌟
Run On (Netflix)
She Was Pretty (Netflix)🌟
The Beauty Inside (Viki/Netflix)
The Secret Life of My Secretary (Viki/Netflix)
Thirty Not Seventeen (Viki) or as Still 17 (Netflix)
To My Star [BL] (Viki)
True Beauty (Viki)
Twenty-five Twenty-one (Netflix)🌟
Weightlifting Fairy Kim Bok Joo (Netflix/Viki)
What’s Up With Secretary Kim (Viki)🌟
Where Stars Land (Viki)🌟
You are my Destiny (Netflix)
You Make Me Dance [BL] (Viki)
Yumi’s Cells (Viki)


Romance - heavier weight/more grown up themes
Another Miss Oh (Netflix)🌟
Because This Is My First Life (Viki/Netflix)🌟
Chicago Typewriter (Viki/Netflix)🌟
Crash Landing on You (Netflix)🌟
Descendants of the Sun (Viki/Netflix)
Doctors (Netflix)
Doom At Your Service (Viki)
Fight For My Way (Viki/Netflix)🌟
Go Back Couple (Viki)/Couple on the Backtrack (Netflix)
I’ll Go To You When The Weather is Nice (Viki)
It’s OK Not To Be OK (Netflix)
Just Between Lovers (Viki)/Rain or Shine (Netflix)🌟
Mad For Each Other (Netflix)🌟
Melo is my Nature (Viki)/Be Melodramatic (other sites)🌟
My Strange Hero (Viki)
One Spring Night (Netflix)
Red Carpet - film (Netflix, very adult content)
Romantic Dr Kim - seasons 1&2 (Viki)
Search: WWW (Viki, Netflix)🌟
Something in the Rain (Netflix)
The Handmaid (film, Netflix - content warning: explicit sexual content)
The Package (Viki)

‘Slice of Life’ dramas on universal themes
Gaus Electronics (Viki)🌟
Hospital Playlist (Netflix)🌟
Hospital Playlist 2 (Netflix)🌟
Into The Ring (Viki)
Itaewon Class (Netflix)
Live (Netflix)
Misaeng (Netflix)🌟
My Liberation Notes🌟
Move to Heaven (Netflix)
My Mister (Viki/Netflix)🌟
My Unfamiliar Family (Viki)🌟
Navillera (Netflix)🌟
Prison Playbook (Netflix)🌟
On The Verge of Insanity (Viki)
Once Again (Viki)
Our Blues (Netflix)🌟
Stove League (Viki)/Hot Stove League (Netflix)
Racket Boys (Netflix)
Would You Like a Cup of Coffee (Viki🌟

Supernatural/zombies/vampires/fantasy/sci-fi - lighter & fluffier
Alchemy of Souls (Netflix) 🌟Extraordinary You (Netflix)
Goblin (Viki)🌟

I am not a Robot (Netflix)
Legend of the Blue Sea (Viki/Netflix)
Kiss Goblin (Viki, webdrama)
My Holo Love (Netflix)🌟
Orange Marmalade (Netflix)
While You Were Sleeping (Viki)🌟


Supernatural/zombies/vampires/fantasy/sci-fi - darker/more grown up themes
#Alive (Netflix)
Black (Netflix)🌟
Happiness (Viki)🌟
Hotel del Luna (Viki/Netflix)🌟
King: The Eternal Monarch (Netflix)
Kingdom (Netflix)🌟
Kingdom: Ashin of the North (Netflix)
Mystic Pop-up Bar (Netflix)
Peninsula - film, Train to Busan sequel (Amazon Prime, iMovies)
Sisyphus (Netflix)
The Guest (Netflix)
Train to Busan - film (Amazon Prime)

W: Two Worlds (Viki & Netflix)🌟
Zombie Detective (Viki/Netflix)


Guilty Pleasures (for the joy, not the quality)
Bride of Habaek (Netflix)
Hwarang (Viki/Netflix)
My Secret Romance (Viki)
The Last Empress (Viki/Netflix)
Sassy Go Go (Netflix)


Mad as a box of frogs/uncategorisable
Strong Girl Bong Soon (Netflix)
School Nurse Files (Netflix)

Not Korean ‘You May Also Like’
Regulars also branch out into Japanese, Taiwanese and Chinese drama. The Chinese & Taiwanese stuff is much more variable quality-wise, so we’ve noted anything decent here:

Before We Get Married (Viki - Taiwanese)
Find Yourself (Netflix - Chinese)
First Love (Netflix - Japanese)🌟
Go Go Squid (Viki - Chinese)
In House Marriage Honey (Viki, Japanese)
In Time With You (Viki - Japanese)
Instead of Tipsy Why Not Get Drunk (Viki, Chinese)
Lost Romance (Viki, Taiwanese)
Love O2O (Viki, Chinese)
Million Yen Women (Netflix, Japanese)
Morning Call (Netflix, Japanese)
My Little Happiness (Viki, Chinese)
Put Your Head on My Shoulder (Netflix, Chinese)
Rinko Wants To Try (Viki)
Some Day or One Day (Viki, Taiwanese)
Sweat and Soap (Viki, Japanese)
The Romance of Tiger & Rose (Viki, Chinese)
To Fly with Me (Viki, Chinese)
Tientsin Mystic (Netflix, Chinese)
You Are My Hero (Viki, Chinese)*

AVOID aka “the shit list” 💩
Melting Me Softly
The Birth of a Beauty
Well-Intentioned Love season 1 (S2 is fine & stands alone)

Top Scoring 2022 Dramas
Courtesy of much-missed Hello’s kdrama spreadsheet, updated by thread regulars. Marks out of 10.

#1 My Liberation Notes 9.45

#2 Alchemy of Souls 9.10

#3 First Love 8.88 (Jdrama)

#4 Our Blues 8.83

#5 Gaus Electronics 8.75

Top Scoring 2021 Dramas
#1 The Red Sleeve - 10
#2 Happiness - 9
#3 Devil Judge - 8.75
#4 Squid Game - 8.6
#5 Navillera - 8.57

Top Scoring 2020 dramas
#1 Mr Queen - 9.4
#2 Parasite (film) - 9.05
#3 It's Okay To Not Be Okay - 8.88
#4 The Uncanny Counter - 8.50
#5 Once Again - 8.42

Top Scoring 2019 dramas
#1 Her Private Life - 9.40
#2 Melo is My Nature - 9.00
#3 tied: Crash Landing On You, The Crowned Clown, The Lies Within, and The Tale of Nokdu - 8.75
#4 Hotel del Luna - 8.50
#5 tied: Romance is a Bonus Book, and Search: WWW - 8.17

We are fans of all things Korean, so equally happy to talk about Korean cookery, language, current affairs, film and music when the mood takes us. A few of us are learning Korean, Japanese and/or Mandarin (some more diligently than others), so we swap tips and links to language resources. Basically, anything topical goes.

We often resort to acronyms and/or abbreviations of show titles or actors’ names. Don’t be afraid to ask for help/clues if we’re not making sense or have descended into acronym soup.

If you want to join us down the kdrama rabbit hole, welcome! Pull up a chair, say goodbye to early nights and get stuck in!

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Saram13 · 06/02/2023 21:40

Hwaiting TheLoup! 🤞🏻

TheLoupGarou · 06/02/2023 22:01

Thanks all - work has been so busy that I haven't really been able to revise enough (plus procrastination in the form of k-drama and BTS lives on weverse - curse you JK!) but I'm hoping I can scrape through and then pull it back in time for the final exam in May.... Fighting!

Andante57 · 06/02/2023 22:02

Good luck TheLoup - you’ll nail it.

Rowdythree · 06/02/2023 22:13

Good luck TheLoup fighting 💪🍀

FedUpWithBriiiiick · 06/02/2023 22:21

Fighting @TheLoupGarou!! 💪

boatyardblues · 06/02/2023 22:46

I’m not really pulling my weight on this thread. I blame FedUp for introducing me to Bato. I read far too much manhwa. 😂

The last couple, especially Before Death Do Us Part have caused me to question the feasibility of yer typical manhwa hotbod ML. The ML in BDDUP is basically a third generation chaebol gangster doing a milquetoast office job whilst his enforcers do all the heavy lifting, ferried about in his swanky limo by his male secretary. He works ridiculous hours at said milquetoast office job and he’s pictured eating ordinary food, not protein-tastic 16oz steaks for breakfast, lunch and dinner. He is never shown exercising. By all logic he should be a pasty blob with a 40” waist. How on Earth does he maintain that rippling muscular physique? By contrast manhwa FL physique is more achievable: eat like a sparrow and/or purge after those fancy set date dinners.

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boatyardblues · 06/02/2023 22:47

Good luck Loup!

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FedUpWithBriiiiick · 06/02/2023 23:16

boatyardblues · 06/02/2023 22:46

I’m not really pulling my weight on this thread. I blame FedUp for introducing me to Bato. I read far too much manhwa. 😂

The last couple, especially Before Death Do Us Part have caused me to question the feasibility of yer typical manhwa hotbod ML. The ML in BDDUP is basically a third generation chaebol gangster doing a milquetoast office job whilst his enforcers do all the heavy lifting, ferried about in his swanky limo by his male secretary. He works ridiculous hours at said milquetoast office job and he’s pictured eating ordinary food, not protein-tastic 16oz steaks for breakfast, lunch and dinner. He is never shown exercising. By all logic he should be a pasty blob with a 40” waist. How on Earth does he maintain that rippling muscular physique? By contrast manhwa FL physique is more achievable: eat like a sparrow and/or purge after those fancy set date dinners.

No thinking, only baguettes.

boatyardblues · 06/02/2023 23:22

FedUpWithBriiiiick · 06/02/2023 23:16

No thinking, only baguettes.

Thank you FedUp. No thinking. It is escapist trash, there is no logic - repeat x 100.

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TheGirlWithTheArabStrap · 06/02/2023 23:43

@boatyardblues I'm barely watching anything these days but I blame AO3 instead of Bato 😅
Although I have just watched the first 3 eps of Melo to celebrate it being on Netflix. It's so so good!! I had forgotten lots of the little bits that happened. It's 100% class!

TheLoupGarou · 07/02/2023 00:28

Thanks for all the good luck wishes chingus!

polkettle · 07/02/2023 08:00

Aw and Mr Gu is 40 today! You are so his Fated just-Noona FedUp

TheLoupGarou · 07/02/2023 08:06

LSG - off the market!!
(I told him "Just move on, you can't wait forever to be my second husband 😂)

FedUpWithBriiiiick · 07/02/2023 08:06

polkettle · 07/02/2023 08:00

Aw and Mr Gu is 40 today! You are so his Fated just-Noona FedUp

Soulmates.

polkettle · 07/02/2023 08:18

Noble of you TheLoup . Must have been annoying to have him hanging about making puppy dog eyes while you were trying to get on with exam revision.

TheLoupGarou · 07/02/2023 08:43

Phone ringing at all hours pol "LSG - you again?! I'm hanging up! I'm in the middle of a coding challenge" 😂

FedUpWithBriiiiick · 07/02/2023 08:58

TheLoupGarou · 07/02/2023 08:43

Phone ringing at all hours pol "LSG - you again?! I'm hanging up! I'm in the middle of a coding challenge" 😂

Bloody Greta Garbo

Andante57 · 07/02/2023 09:01

TheLoupGarou · 07/02/2023 08:43

Phone ringing at all hours pol "LSG - you again?! I'm hanging up! I'm in the middle of a coding challenge" 😂

😂😂😂😂

bettys · 07/02/2023 10:44

boatyardblues · 06/02/2023 23:22

Thank you FedUp. No thinking. It is escapist trash, there is no logic - repeat x 100.

My motto exactly

MsLatté’s Daebak Cybercafé (Kdrama addicts #38): Where we’re still reeling from the 2022 top 5 scoring Jdrama First Love v Alchemy of Souls kerfuffle. What can I say? Takeru Satoh broke our scoring rubric.
bettys · 07/02/2023 10:45

FedUpWithBriiiiick · 07/02/2023 08:58

Bloody Greta Garbo

So funny! I just watched the Greta Garbo clip again, but dated but I do love Pete n Dud

FedUpWithBriiiiick · 07/02/2023 10:48

Oh god bettys I love that pic 🤣🤣🤣

When you work hard, raise families, and raise hell all day every day, then there is nothing, NOTHING, better than switching off with a drama, or an anime, or a particularly mindless webtoon.

TheGirlWithTheArabStrap · 07/02/2023 11:06

FedUpWithBriiiiick · 07/02/2023 10:48

Oh god bettys I love that pic 🤣🤣🤣

When you work hard, raise families, and raise hell all day every day, then there is nothing, NOTHING, better than switching off with a drama, or an anime, or a particularly mindless webtoon.

100% agree

Saram13 · 07/02/2023 11:35

Amen FedUp 🙌

Bea · 07/02/2023 14:52

bettys · 07/02/2023 10:44

My motto exactly

😂🤣

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