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MsLatté’s Daebak Cybercafé (Kdrama addicts #38): Where we’re still reeling from the 2022 top 5 scoring Jdrama First Love v Alchemy of Souls kerfuffle. What can I say? Takeru Satoh broke our scoring rubric.

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boatyardblues · 02/01/2023 19:50

A quiet corner of MN for serious addicts of Kdrama, or the K-curious. Most of our shows are on Netflix and Viki, with a sprinkling of AmazonPrime, AppleTV and Disney+. There are also platforms streaming content illegally if you go looking. We don’t promote them as they are peppered with pop-ups of “Olga” and friends offering a good time, but we can point you in the right direction. We also dip into Japanese, Taiwanese & Chinese drama as & when.

The previous thread is here but our list is cumulative so includes recommendations and favourites from all previous threads. Shows marked with a star are more uniformly loved or admired. In categorising series, its important to note most Korean dramas have multiple strands - e.g. supernatural, romance and a thriller; crime series with fantasy elements. Genre-busting mash-ups are normal. Series that are tagged as dark may also have moments of comedy or the absurd, likewise fluff can have heavier moments. Writer/actor Simon Pegg referred to it fondly as “tonal chaos” - it’s part of kdrama’s charm. View the categories below as best approximate & ask if you need guidance about suitability for younger viewers.

Comedy (with a side order of absurd)
I picked up a celebrity on the street (Viki)
My Fellow Citizens (Viki/Netflix)
The Fiery Priest (Netflix)

Crime/Thriller
Come and Hug Me (Dramafast)
Graceful Family (Viki)
Healer (Netflix)🌟
Heartless City (Viki)
He is Psychometric (Viki)
I Hear Your Voice (Netflix /Viki)
Life on Mars (classy remake of BBC series, no major site yet)
Little Women (Netflix)
My Name (Netflix)
My Secret Terrius (Netflix)🌟
Signal (Netflix)🌟
Somebody (Netflix, content warning: sexual & violence)
Snowdrop (Disney+)
Stranger - 2 seasons (Netflix)
Suspicious Partner (Netflix)🌟
The Lies Within (Netflix)🌟
Tunnel (Netflix)🌟

Historical/Period drama (“sageuk”)
100 Days My Prince (Viki/Netflix)
Crowned Clown (Viki/Netflix)🌟
Mr Queen (Viki)🌟
Mr Sunshine (Netflix)
Pachinko (AppleTV)
Rookie Historian Goo Hae-Ryung (Netflix)
Tale of Nokdu (Viki/Netflix)🌟
The King’s Affection (Netflix)
The Red Sleeve (Viki)🌟

Romance - lighter & fluffier
Beating Again (Netflix)
Business Proposal (Netflix)
Coffee Prince (Netflix)
Dali & the Cocky Prince (Viki)
Don’t Dare to Dream (Netflix, or as Jealousy Incarnate on Viki)🌟
Gogh, The Starry Night (Viki)
Happy Once Again (Netflix)
Her Private Life (Viki)🌟
His Master’s Sun (Netflix)
Hometown Cha Cha Cha (Viki)🌟
Love from a Star (Netflix)🌟
Lovestruck in the City (Netflix)
Monthly Magazine Home (Viki)
Pinocchio (Netflix)
Radio Romance (Netflix)
Romance is the Bonus Book (Netflix)🌟
Run On (Netflix)
She Was Pretty (Netflix)🌟
The Beauty Inside (Viki/Netflix)
The Secret Life of My Secretary (Viki/Netflix)
Thirty Not Seventeen (Viki) or as Still 17 (Netflix)
To My Star [BL] (Viki)
True Beauty (Viki)
Twenty-five Twenty-one (Netflix)🌟
Weightlifting Fairy Kim Bok Joo (Netflix/Viki)
What’s Up With Secretary Kim (Viki)🌟
Where Stars Land (Viki)🌟
You are my Destiny (Netflix)
You Make Me Dance [BL] (Viki)
Yumi’s Cells (Viki)


Romance - heavier weight/more grown up themes
Another Miss Oh (Netflix)🌟
Because This Is My First Life (Viki/Netflix)🌟
Chicago Typewriter (Viki/Netflix)🌟
Crash Landing on You (Netflix)🌟
Descendants of the Sun (Viki/Netflix)
Doctors (Netflix)
Doom At Your Service (Viki)
Fight For My Way (Viki/Netflix)🌟
Go Back Couple (Viki)/Couple on the Backtrack (Netflix)
I’ll Go To You When The Weather is Nice (Viki)
It’s OK Not To Be OK (Netflix)
Just Between Lovers (Viki)/Rain or Shine (Netflix)🌟
Mad For Each Other (Netflix)🌟
Melo is my Nature (Viki)/Be Melodramatic (other sites)🌟
My Strange Hero (Viki)
One Spring Night (Netflix)
Red Carpet - film (Netflix, very adult content)
Romantic Dr Kim - seasons 1&2 (Viki)
Search: WWW (Viki, Netflix)🌟
Something in the Rain (Netflix)
The Handmaid (film, Netflix - content warning: explicit sexual content)
The Package (Viki)

‘Slice of Life’ dramas on universal themes
Gaus Electronics (Viki)🌟
Hospital Playlist (Netflix)🌟
Hospital Playlist 2 (Netflix)🌟
Into The Ring (Viki)
Itaewon Class (Netflix)
Live (Netflix)
Misaeng (Netflix)🌟
My Liberation Notes🌟
Move to Heaven (Netflix)
My Mister (Viki/Netflix)🌟
My Unfamiliar Family (Viki)🌟
Navillera (Netflix)🌟
Prison Playbook (Netflix)🌟
On The Verge of Insanity (Viki)
Once Again (Viki)
Our Blues (Netflix)🌟
Stove League (Viki)/Hot Stove League (Netflix)
Racket Boys (Netflix)
Would You Like a Cup of Coffee (Viki🌟

Supernatural/zombies/vampires/fantasy/sci-fi - lighter & fluffier
Alchemy of Souls (Netflix) 🌟Extraordinary You (Netflix)
Goblin (Viki)🌟

I am not a Robot (Netflix)
Legend of the Blue Sea (Viki/Netflix)
Kiss Goblin (Viki, webdrama)
My Holo Love (Netflix)🌟
Orange Marmalade (Netflix)
While You Were Sleeping (Viki)🌟


Supernatural/zombies/vampires/fantasy/sci-fi - darker/more grown up themes
#Alive (Netflix)
Black (Netflix)🌟
Happiness (Viki)🌟
Hotel del Luna (Viki/Netflix)🌟
King: The Eternal Monarch (Netflix)
Kingdom (Netflix)🌟
Kingdom: Ashin of the North (Netflix)
Mystic Pop-up Bar (Netflix)
Peninsula - film, Train to Busan sequel (Amazon Prime, iMovies)
Sisyphus (Netflix)
The Guest (Netflix)
Train to Busan - film (Amazon Prime)

W: Two Worlds (Viki & Netflix)🌟
Zombie Detective (Viki/Netflix)


Guilty Pleasures (for the joy, not the quality)
Bride of Habaek (Netflix)
Hwarang (Viki/Netflix)
My Secret Romance (Viki)
The Last Empress (Viki/Netflix)
Sassy Go Go (Netflix)


Mad as a box of frogs/uncategorisable
Strong Girl Bong Soon (Netflix)
School Nurse Files (Netflix)

Not Korean ‘You May Also Like’
Regulars also branch out into Japanese, Taiwanese and Chinese drama. The Chinese & Taiwanese stuff is much more variable quality-wise, so we’ve noted anything decent here:

Before We Get Married (Viki - Taiwanese)
Find Yourself (Netflix - Chinese)
First Love (Netflix - Japanese)🌟
Go Go Squid (Viki - Chinese)
In House Marriage Honey (Viki, Japanese)
In Time With You (Viki - Japanese)
Instead of Tipsy Why Not Get Drunk (Viki, Chinese)
Lost Romance (Viki, Taiwanese)
Love O2O (Viki, Chinese)
Million Yen Women (Netflix, Japanese)
Morning Call (Netflix, Japanese)
My Little Happiness (Viki, Chinese)
Put Your Head on My Shoulder (Netflix, Chinese)
Rinko Wants To Try (Viki)
Some Day or One Day (Viki, Taiwanese)
Sweat and Soap (Viki, Japanese)
The Romance of Tiger & Rose (Viki, Chinese)
To Fly with Me (Viki, Chinese)
Tientsin Mystic (Netflix, Chinese)
You Are My Hero (Viki, Chinese)*

AVOID aka “the shit list” 💩
Melting Me Softly
The Birth of a Beauty
Well-Intentioned Love season 1 (S2 is fine & stands alone)

Top Scoring 2022 Dramas
Courtesy of much-missed Hello’s kdrama spreadsheet, updated by thread regulars. Marks out of 10.

#1 My Liberation Notes 9.45

#2 Alchemy of Souls 9.10

#3 First Love 8.88 (Jdrama)

#4 Our Blues 8.83

#5 Gaus Electronics 8.75

Top Scoring 2021 Dramas
#1 The Red Sleeve - 10
#2 Happiness - 9
#3 Devil Judge - 8.75
#4 Squid Game - 8.6
#5 Navillera - 8.57

Top Scoring 2020 dramas
#1 Mr Queen - 9.4
#2 Parasite (film) - 9.05
#3 It's Okay To Not Be Okay - 8.88
#4 The Uncanny Counter - 8.50
#5 Once Again - 8.42

Top Scoring 2019 dramas
#1 Her Private Life - 9.40
#2 Melo is My Nature - 9.00
#3 tied: Crash Landing On You, The Crowned Clown, The Lies Within, and The Tale of Nokdu - 8.75
#4 Hotel del Luna - 8.50
#5 tied: Romance is a Bonus Book, and Search: WWW - 8.17

We are fans of all things Korean, so equally happy to talk about Korean cookery, language, current affairs, film and music when the mood takes us. A few of us are learning Korean, Japanese and/or Mandarin (some more diligently than others), so we swap tips and links to language resources. Basically, anything topical goes.

We often resort to acronyms and/or abbreviations of show titles or actors’ names. Don’t be afraid to ask for help/clues if we’re not making sense or have descended into acronym soup.

If you want to join us down the kdrama rabbit hole, welcome! Pull up a chair, say goodbye to early nights and get stuck in!

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FedUpWithBriiiiick · 05/02/2023 15:46

boatyardblues · 05/02/2023 11:24

Saturday YTC sounds bouncier than Wednesday YTC here, which was was a fairly muted affair. Still, no distractions for trouserwatch.

I have just ploughed through Before Death Do Us Part on Bato (50 eps are up so far). Gluten-free contract/forced business marriage between son and daughter of two rival gangster-run construction conglomerates to head off an all out turf war. The artwork is good. It’s staying the right side of the line on consent and the relationship is balanced. The leads are good, esp FL, although the bodyguard storyline is improbable. There’s some light corporate espionage and plenty of dirty dealings. It’s a thriller where you’re not quite sure whether people are what they seem. There could be some double-crossing and shocking reveals in the offing. It’s good. Annoying that it’s not yet complete. 😠

I thank you. You know I love them contract marriages.

polkettle · 05/02/2023 17:21

You're all reading Maybe Meant to Be on Webtoons I hope? That's my weekly manhwa highlight at the moment.

FedUpWithBriiiiick · 05/02/2023 17:22

polkettle · 05/02/2023 17:21

You're all reading Maybe Meant to Be on Webtoons I hope? That's my weekly manhwa highlight at the moment.

Yep! It's fun. Needs more husband though 😁

polkettle · 05/02/2023 17:26

It's true that he's been a bit MIA in the last couple of episodes.

FedUpWithBriiiiick · 05/02/2023 18:20

Need the pancake T-shirt. That is all.

polkettle · 05/02/2023 18:48

I spent a good 45 minutes trying to find it online yesterday FedUp

Bea · 05/02/2023 19:13

May I Help You? Amazon prime...

Finished! It was lovely and a real kdrama...

First thoughts....it's a supernatural thing...
2nd... It's a comedy!
3rd. It's a love triangle !
4th... It's a family trauma!
5th....it's a comedy again!
6th... It's a revenge!
7th... It's a thriller! 😱
8th... It's a tragedy! 😭

I blubbed lots! Great fun! 👍🏼👍🏼☺️

boatyardblues · 05/02/2023 21:30

I’m still meandering through Terrace House: Opening New Doors. I’m loving the insights into life in a Japanese winter sports area. It’s now new year(ish) in the house and one of the couples went on a date to a skating pond. It was a purpose-built skating pond, I’m assuming shallow, with gently sloped edges, little islands, benches on the islands, points of interest and a cafe serving hot drinks. It was so damned charming. 😍 I would live to have somewhere like that local to me. It would be a skating puddle for most of the winter, sure, but it would make a lovely outing.

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Rowdythree · 05/02/2023 22:14

All caught up on the thread and on CCiR - jeez those mums are scary! Leave the poor man alone.

Unpopular opinion - Jin in leather trousers does not do it for me 😂

@AmVa your birthday plans sounded amazing, I hope you had a wonderful time. Happy birthday 🎉

MigsandTiggs · 06/02/2023 00:06

polkettle · 05/02/2023 18:48

I spent a good 45 minutes trying to find it online yesterday FedUp

Keep an eye on
here
as they're only up to Ep4's fashion

FedUpWithBriiiiick · 06/02/2023 08:19

Trip balance paid off today, eonnis!

The FedUps are going to Japan! 🎉🎊✈️🚄🍜🍣🍱🍵🧋🍶🍻🥢

Saram13 · 06/02/2023 08:22

FedUp 🤩😃😀😆😛🥰👹👺🤘🏻 AMAZING!!! 😁

polkettle · 06/02/2023 08:25

Whoop whoop FedUp! Can't wait to follow the photos.
Thanks Migs 😚

TheLoupGarou · 06/02/2023 08:37

Ahhhh fedUp ! Amazing - so exciting 🎊🎌🇯🇵⛩️🏯🗼

Migs that website is a gold mine! How have I not seen it before? Slightly disappointed that they don't have Lee Da Hee's black and white checked sweater from episode 2 of Island though (despite having all her other crazy outfits 🤣)

MigsandTiggs · 06/02/2023 08:51

Getting closer every day Fedup!

MigsandTiggs · 06/02/2023 08:54

Psssst Rowdy, Jin, in or out of leather trousers doesn't do it for me either!!Grin

AmVa · 06/02/2023 10:05

Reporting back after my bath house visit today - absolutely loved it. Had a very intense stub from an ajumma who seemed to be wearing sandpaper gloves and came out with the smoothest skin 😁

All caught up on CCIR and very excited for next week! Feel like the episode today pushed me into one pretty clear theory about the silver ball bandit and we made some good romance progress

Andante57 · 06/02/2023 10:11

FedUp you’ll have the best time - can’t wait to see photos.

Saram - thank you for your detailed answer, you’ve obviously got on really well with grammar.
I completely agree about conversation. I translate a few sentences without too many problems but as soon as Seonsaengnim starts talking to me using the same words, I’m flummoxed. I feel such a fool staring at her blankly even though I know what most of the words are on paper.

bettys · 06/02/2023 14:39

I don't have a scooby what's going on in Kokdu but I am watching for the marvellous Kim Jung Hyun.
Also very pleased to see the head maid & chef couple from Mr Queen 😊

Andante57 · 06/02/2023 14:58

Bettys I often have difficulty In understanding what’s going on in dramas but reading resumes of the episodes afterwards can be helpful.
I have found Stranger 2 quite hard to follow.

MigsandTiggs · 06/02/2023 18:16

Trolley^^ jumped the shark today with Ep13. Confused
It's turned into kdrama salad with the writer emptying the entire contents of the fridge into it. The main premise of the show had enough to warrant a deep exploration of the trolley dilemma on a personal level, but no.

A well respected tv reviewer needs to address unwarranted adherence to a16 episode format and the need to put in random episode 13/14 twists.

TheLoupGarou · 06/02/2023 19:28

Our Blooming Youth (Viki) and
Love to Hate You (Netflix) both premiering this week - I'm looking forward to both.

I've got a exam tomorrow night (software development), so am looking forward to rewarding myself with drama-overload later in the week!

Rowdythree · 06/02/2023 21:03

Has anyone watched Anna on Amazon prime, about a girl who is forced to transfer schools before her exams, leading her to fail. She then starts living a fantasy life in Seoul. I've just watched ep1, it seems like a good one.

I started watching Island for some hot priest action, but I got scared so I'll wait for DH to watch it with me 😂

polkettle · 06/02/2023 21:19

Good luck with your exam TheLoup
Sounds like a most excellent scrubbingAmVa Fresh skin for a fresh year 😍
Rewatching the sooky bits from Meet Yourself like the sad sap I am. Mr embryonic mullet does make some very sweet speeches...

MigsandTiggs · 06/02/2023 21:20

Good luck in your exams tomorrow, Loup! 🤞🏻

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