The Traitors: Australia SPOILERS APLENTY

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Discussion thread about the Australian version of The Traitors

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Absolutely no need for this.

It's a game called The Traitors. Backstabbing is the order of the day.

I like the way the Australians played, instead of all the endless weeping in the Uk version. I also like how the smartest people made it to the end instead of people who didn't have a clue until Kieran virtually spelt it out for them in big red letters ( hello, Meryl?) Alex was a very deserving winner who was recruited as a patsy, but turned the tables on her recruiters.

Yes but she was bloody awful with it too. Allowed my views, allowed to think she’s a bitch. You don’t have to like it.

Couse you are. I just think the game is about being a bitch. It's not about being thick as mince like the UK finalists. I mean, Nigel referred to Alex as cannon fodder. I liked him a lot, but I think he underestimated her ( and therefore recruited her) because she was a beauty queen and he was an internationally famous journalist. I liked the way she was a lot smarter than she looked.

I think future seasons will be a lot more ruthless. Like Survivor. They will realise they have to often get their fellow traitors out too.

I suppose the simple fact that I really never liked Alex from the start as a person also plays into it, I’ll say that much.

But even in the spirit of the game or whatever, what she did in the car on the day Nigel went was unforgivable.

So furious at how it ended!

And how must Craig’s wife and daughter feel, knowing he threw away the chance of winning for a pretty face?

On the whole I much preferred these contestants - though it’s a shame their racism was so ingrained that they got rid of all the non white people as quickly as possible. Such a strong showing of lawyers (and ‘legal professionals), rather than the social media aspirants of the UK version.

Next time they should bring the Australian people to play the game in Scotland. I wouldn’t mind Roger pairing up with Claudia - that might be fun - but it definitely needed the castle. And the red and green flames at the end!

@Phos what did she do in the car? I haven’t got that far yet but am very curious

Just finished watching and did enjoy it. Felt bad for Craig.

Wasn't a fan of Roger, I missed the way Claudia presented and he reminded me of Roger Moore as James Bond. A smile and a wink in a nice suit. Definitely needed the cloak and dagger feel Claudia bought, and the venue just didn't work.

Craig and Paul were both basically absent all series with Craig popping up a bit at the end. Chlor was a weird one, stopping off like that.

Best bit was Angus being shouted at in the paintball challenge 'Put the crack back!'

Loved this, preferred Claudia and Scottish castle obviously but the relish with which the aussie traitors played the game made this better than the UK in my view. Felt sorry for Craig, and think he was blindsided by Alex because he was a dad with a daughter and his feeling were purely paternal, not creep at all. Of all the contestants Teresa was by far my favourite, glad she stayed as long as she did, she just lit up the screen every time she was on. Loved the Machiavellian manoeuvrings of both Kate and Alex, would have preferred Kate to triumph but Alex's masterful takedown of Marielle was the best episode of the show so fair play to her on winning.

Just finished watching the series today.

Marielle's big mistake was not murdering Kate earlier. She said two or three times that Kate scared her. She waited just that bit too long and BOOM Kate worked her out.

That episode was amazing.

To be honest I think Marielle a big mistake really was getting too cocky. If she hadn't made up that massive lie no one would have suspected her and she would have had plenty more time to get rid of people. She deserved to get banished because she hugely overplayed her hand

Yes, that is very true - Marielle was getting too cocky.

In this interview, Marielle says that the conversation with Fi really did happen?!!

www.google.com/amp/s/thelatch.com.au/the-traitors-marielle-2022-interview/amp/

Yet, in the VT that was played immediately before Marielle telling Kate what Fi had supposedly said, Marielle said that she had absolutely no problem with lying directly to someone.

I read that interview and now I don't know what to believe!

Late to this, but I finally watched it. Got very bored halfway through and nearly gave up, but it picked up.

I found it weaker than the UK and US versions. I don't think it had the same budget and despite a few lingering shots of Dickens and Christie novels, it didn't have that aesthetic.

As it became clear Alex was going to win (obvious when Lewis got banished, Kate was never going to win Craig round from Alex), I felt unhappy. I really wanted anyone but her. At the same time, she played so well that I can't deny she deserved it. She clearly was a brilliant traitor!

I just felt so awful for Craig at the end, even worse than I did for Quentin and Andie in the US version. It's not so bad when they get murdered or banished, they're prepared for that. It's the moment of euphoria in thinking they've got the last traitor and believing they're going to get the money and even being happy to share it with someone they care about and trust...and then they find that out.

The UK version is the only one that's left me feeling satisfied. I was hoping for some sort of similar "keep throwing your friends under the bus and eventually there'll be none when you need them" ending but obviously it doesn't always work that way.

To be honest, endings like that leave me so sad, I'm not sure I'll watch the new series of any of them when they come out. It's all addictive, backstabbing fun until...

I know it's a game of deceit and betrayal but maybe I'm just not as prepared for that as I thought I was. I think it depends on how much I like the remaining Faithfuls.

Just came on here to find out if I was the only one confused about Paul – I’m glad to know it’s a general talking point. Surely if you work for the Cia or the FBI there would’ve been discussion about this before he joined. No one seemed remotely bothered when he was murdered, they literally didn’t comment on it (there again, their comments might have been edited out). Very strange.

I adored Nigel, but in the end, he let his decent nature get the better of his gameplay. Alex, I spotted as the winner from a while back when they started going big guns on the IVF story, there was no similar story for Kate, so I was in no doubt as where we were going.

I wish Kate had won as I think she played the best game throughout, but Alex certainly was shockingly, horribly treacherous, and that is what the game is all about…

On the off chance anyone has just watched this I need to say this somewhere...

the producers and editing 💯 told us Alex was going to win by suddenly giving us her back/ sob story about what she would do with the money ( we heard it several times) photos of partner etc whereas not a single other contestant was given that airtime.
I'm sure they all had pretty decent reasons to want 250k and model and SM manager Alex wasn't exactly giving over shit street vibes!
It's like they tried to set us up so we'd all be sobbing at the end because she deserved it the very most.
Lewis for example briefly mentioned buying his girlfriend a ring yet we didn't see any lovely pictures of her or get to hear of their 'struggles'
Made me not want her to win ( when I initially loved her playing Marielle)
I was fully rooting for Kate.
Odd editing the whole way through.

Watched it several months ago so have forgotten all the details - but yes, the production and editing was … suspect.

The final was a knife in the heart for him though

bit late to the party. just finished it. really enjoyed it, I liked Roger, but he gave to many clues(not that they listened.
really enjoyed it, but the ending was harsh, I felt for Craig, but he was so daft, he didn't learn from nigel(who we couldn't stand)betraying him, all it took was a pretty girl crying and he was toast.
loved teresa , wanted her to win, or lewis.
Alex was a good traitor she has no scruples.
agree that Marielle's big mistake was not murdering Kate, but she was too cocky.

Just finished (final one tonight on UK tv)

I felt a bit sorry for Craig BUT him putting his trust into Alex made no difference - he always thought Lewis was suspect (from things Lewis said) so after that it made no difference to the final outcome whether he sided with kate or Alex, he had lost either way

i wonder how steel/share would have worked - we haven't seen that before in the UK/USA shows when more than 1 traitor/faithful will be winning.

I so totally am intrigued by the confidence the game players always have in reading others, so sure they can spot lies, deception, personality change etc . I profoundly lack those skills. Do most people think they can spot a liar & read people well, or is it just the contestants on the Traitors programmes who are especially confident they have that skill: were they recruited for "Can you tell if someone is lying" self-belief?

I liked Lewis a lot in end, would have loved him to win.

I can't see how a celebrity version would work, part if the premise of the show is that no one knows the other people.

The US version had a mix of celebrities and non-celebrities. Seemed to work OK, but then I didn’t know who any of the celebrities were anyway!

Just finished this and was so intrigued by the Paul thing we listened to a podcast where he was the subject of an hour long interview called Tradar. There's a series of them featuring some of the key players.
He was asked about it and said he had no idea why he received such an edit but could be because he was older which didn't seem to fly. He was very, very happy to chat and interesting to listen to so we're none the wiser really.
We loved The Traitors series and Kate from the US version is probably my favourite cast member, in a off the wall way! Also loved Kate from the Aussie version, Alex not so much but she was an amazing player. The episode where Marielle was dumped was brilliant TV.