Page 19 | William "screamed and shouted" at Harry.

felulageller · 2022-12-15T10:37:01+00:00

Ep5. So that's the big accusation we've been waiting for. Then a denial that he, Harry, denied William had bullied him and MM. Denying that you denied it so implying it was true that William was bullying them? Never liked William anyway. Hope he's never King.

Princessglittery · 15/12/2022 16:32

JohnPrescottsPyjamas · 15/12/2022 16:09

I think we all need to remember this a reality TV show, nothing more. To call it a ‘documentary’ is a joke. It’s as staged as Love Island, TOWIE, Keeping Up With the Kardashians etc etc.

“Oh look, there’s a shitty text from William, luckily we have a camera crew handy to film our shocked faces”

I did wonder if the text was actually about Prince Philip I.e. he’s dying as it times with him being in hospital.

I think the time line was:
3 March 2021 Prince Philip heart operation
7 March 2021 Oprah interview
9 March 2021 Palace statement and text from William
9 April 2021 Prince Philip died

Shelefttheweb · 15/12/2022 16:32

Megan was, no doubt, see as black by the British press but that wasn’t the issue. The real issue was she was another American divorcee and what happened when the last American divorcee married into the RF. I certainly remember comparisons with Wallis Simpson, comparisons which now seem more apt.

ImJustMadAboutSaffron · 15/12/2022 16:33

LozMarieFielder · 15/12/2022 16:14

Thought this was about Will.i.am cause 'scream and shout'.

Oh wee oh wee oh wee oh

IAmWomanHearMeRoar1 · 15/12/2022 16:33

Shelefttheweb · 15/12/2022 16:19

So they did get married the day before their ‘wedding’ then make false legal declarations in front of everyone at their wedding service? And the Archbishop of Canterbury lied when he said he didn’t marry then the day before?

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@Shelefttheweb That has been addressed so many times on this site that it aught to be a thread stuck at the top. In many cultures it's common to say you were married even if you exchange vows but don't sign paperwork. It is something that the UK seems to really, really, really struggle with. The idea that you can exchange vows privately, no signed paperwork, and consider it a 'marriage'. The Archbishop did not deny that they exchanged vows privately. Just confirmed that it wasn't legal.

healthadvice123 · 15/12/2022 16:33

@justgettingthroughtheday except you don't know if its true , its been wisely reported you have said , yet stuff thats been reported about H & M is untrue ? When reality is none of us know the whole truth or ever will
W& k also get followed by media ,
They just come across as ( him more so) as whinging spoilt adults , he has had a very privileged lifes and many have had it a lot worse
Why keep the titles ? Why put yourself out in the media even more?
Why not just live the nicer quieter life on the plenty of family money he has

healthadvice123 · 15/12/2022 16:34

@justgettingthroughtheday where as person been racist ??

IAmWomanHearMeRoar1 · 15/12/2022 16:35

britsabroad · 15/12/2022 16:11

@IAmWomanHearMeRoar1 you said in reference to "shes not black"

"er yes she is. As a mixed race person we are always seen as black. Don't tell a person of colour they are not black. That is one of the most deeply offensive, ignorant racist comments you can make"
Then you say "to most, mixed race people we are black and people see us as black, that is the fundamental truth"

Except its not is it? Its you speculating based on your own personal experience. I'm mixed race, I'm not offended if someone says I'm not black. Because I'm not. It's not racist or ignorant. I have one white parent and one black parent and I'm mixed race. To be mixed race is not the same to be white or black.

Hardly anyone is 100% white or 100% black. Almost everyone is 'mixed race'. However if you are even slightly black, in the eyes of many white people, you are black. And most 'mixed race' people I know consider themselves black.

healthadvice123 · 15/12/2022 16:36

@IAmWomanHearMeRoar1 in what culture is that normally said and Harry us british so he knows what it means in the uk

justgettingthroughtheday · 15/12/2022 16:36

healthadvice123 · 15/12/2022 16:28

@justgettingthroughtheday they have made the documentary now and people are watching it and forming an opinion and also after watching OPrah etc
Whilst not many will despute the media can be awful, most can still make up their minds about the two of them or whatever and can form an opinion and read it how they see what they are saying in he documentary
They will get people that agree and people that disagree that is the risk they took
So far it seems most people have had enough and don't think all they say is 100% true
In making the documentary that is the risk they took that negatives would also be taken from it

And?

People are determined to hate them. People are determined that they have committed some dreadful act.
But tell me what exactly is wrong about making a decision to protect your family and to tell your truth.

Could you have lived under the scrutiny and pressures that they were being put under. Whilst at the same time not knowing who if anybody you could trust?
Would you want that life for your kids?

If you wouldn't and haven't lived their life then how dare you judge them?

shockthemonkey · 15/12/2022 16:37

Harry needs to be truthful here. It was a meeting with Charles, the Queen,Harry and William.
William screamed? Really? Er , no.
Harry is very dramatic and inconsistent and this is no exception.

Spambod, to be fair, you can't possibly know.

I understand that when someone has been shown to embroider the truth or make out-and-out fabrications, it may be hard to believe a word they say. But this, the screaming, may well have happened, just in a slightly less dramatic way. Maybe voices were raised.

I mean, M and H lie, this is proven. But they may not lie all the time. In fact often a sprinkling of truth is what helps the lie go down.

IAmWomanHearMeRoar1 · 15/12/2022 16:37

shockthemonkey · 15/12/2022 16:07

Then Meghan saying basically that she was lovely and huggy and Kate was a cold fish that kept up protocol even behind closed doors.
She said no such thing, you are manipulating the narrative to suit your agenda. She was saying how she felt embarrassed at being so forward.

Again, disingenuous, IamWoman. Meghan was giving a clear message, under the veil of a "silly me I didn't understand about protocol", that Kate is standoffish and Meghan is all hugs and warmth. I mean, there is no mistaking that standoffish = bad and hugs and warm = good. For almost any audience.

Think of it as humble bragging... akin to saying something like "oh dear, I did abismally in my A levels, I only got an A* and three As"

No, you are being disingenuous here, because that's the narrative that you want to believe, you want to believe bad about her so you misrepresent her.

justgettingthroughtheday · 15/12/2022 16:37

healthadvice123 · 15/12/2022 16:33

@justgettingthroughtheday except you don't know if its true , its been wisely reported you have said , yet stuff thats been reported about H & M is untrue ? When reality is none of us know the whole truth or ever will
W& k also get followed by media ,
They just come across as ( him more so) as whinging spoilt adults , he has had a very privileged lifes and many have had it a lot worse
Why keep the titles ? Why put yourself out in the media even more?
Why not just live the nicer quieter life on the plenty of family money he has

I haven't a clue what your on about? Try being clearer with what your talking about!!!

Did you watch the documentary?

Canthave2manycats · 15/12/2022 16:38

I hope William did shout at him, going in there with his demands to have his cake and eat it, distressing his grandmother!!

healthadvice123 · 15/12/2022 16:39

Why does he still keep his title ?

Jessica60 · 15/12/2022 16:39

Netflix asked for your money back

SammySawdust · 15/12/2022 16:40

They're both narcissistic bores and at some point it will all come crashing down.

Shelefttheweb · 15/12/2022 16:40

IAmWomanHearMeRoar1 · 15/12/2022 16:33

@Shelefttheweb That has been addressed so many times on this site that it aught to be a thread stuck at the top. In many cultures it's common to say you were married even if you exchange vows but don't sign paperwork. It is something that the UK seems to really, really, really struggle with. The idea that you can exchange vows privately, no signed paperwork, and consider it a 'marriage'. The Archbishop did not deny that they exchanged vows privately. Just confirmed that it wasn't legal.

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Nonsense! You are wanting your cake and eating it.

purpledalmation · 15/12/2022 16:40

@IAmWomanHearMeRoar1 That has been addressed so many times on this site that it aught to be a thread stuck at the top. In many cultures it's common to say you were married even if you exchange vows but don't sign paperwork. It is something that the UK seems to really, really, really struggle with. The idea that you can exchange vows privately, no signed paperwork, and consider it a 'marriage'. The Archbishop did not deny that they exchanged vows privately. Just confirmed that it wasn't legal

What are you talking about? Not in the UK or America is an informal exchange of personal vows ever considered to be a marriage! You keep making the most ridiculous and easily disproven statements.

healthadvice123 · 15/12/2022 16:42

@justgettingthroughtheday yes but if you can't understand my questions , then how do you understand it. Your claiming everything they say is true and been widely reported by the media , the same media that then do not tell any truths about meghan and Harry ?
The reality is none if us know the truth or are likely to.
Always two sides to every story and the truth normally lies somewhere in the middle.
But only one person is making a documentary and putting down their family and discussing private matters.

PeaceJoySleep · 15/12/2022 16:42

Crispychocolateslab · 15/12/2022 11:56

In my experience when dramatists and liars like Harry claim they were ‘screamed’ at what actually happened is that someone raised their voice slightly. Which in this case is entirely understandable.

So true.

SparklyLeprechaun · 15/12/2022 16:43

I believe them and still think the screaming and shouting is no big deal and he's being dramatic. I do feel sorry for H&M, they are obviously not suited to be royals, so they are better off out of it, but Harry has lost his family in the process. I just wish they stopped washing their laundry in public now, it's not dignified.

shard5 · 15/12/2022 16:44

So the doddery old queen was sat watching on, (king) Charles was also not very vocal but surprised surprise it was William, who Harry is immensely jealous of, who was screaming and shouting?
They've always said they had a brilliant relationship with the queen and now have to keep the king on side so it's no surprise they're blaming William for all the fallout.

VogueDarling · 15/12/2022 16:44

Ugh another goady thread where op takes the pin out the grenade and runs

For the record me and my sibling have SHOUTED at each other, bad. It happens!! Especially when people feel passionately about the behaviour of individuals and how it might impact their family

IAmWomanHearMeRoar1 · 15/12/2022 16:45

healthadvice123 · 15/12/2022 16:36

@IAmWomanHearMeRoar1 in what culture is that normally said and Harry us british so he knows what it means in the uk

African American cultures, Australian cultures, and many others.

Heck, even in the UK it's common to have destination weddings but get legally married before going abroad and doing it again, but consider the second wedding ie the destination wedding the 'real' one. It's just a reverse of that.

JohnPrescottsPyjamas · 15/12/2022 16:45

This was another interesting comment:

“Why would I give the very people that are calling my children the N-word a photo of my child before I can share it with the people that love my child?“

Who exactly was calling her children the N-Word? Was it the public? If so, how does she know, is it a supposition or did someone come up to her and use it? Or was it the Press? Can you imagine how much kick back and outrage there would have been if any media outlet had actually used the word? Why is there no evidence of this and quite rightly, naming and shaming?

Or this another example of her version of fact?