Tit for tat? Mafsuk thread 4. NO SPOILERS. Real time discussion.

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There is a spoiler thread if you want to post hints. Let's enjoy the drama lamas as it happens.

Oh we should have a bingo card - drink each time you hear:

this woman
the boy
the process
lurve
trust
fake

And bonus ball for 'vegan' or 'pickled rat'

This is a game I am most definitely up for

Can't tell you just how much my eyeballs rolled when Thomas changed his mind...fummin...would have liked one show that wasn't all about him. Glad Kasia has finally called time on Kwamememe...let's see how much interest he gets from the world now with his stinking attitude.

When does this all finish?

I just think that if they’re not in love after 8 weeks then they’re never going to be.

Next week I bloody hope

probably agree. It’s not quite like Adam and taya last year who were clearly smitten.

they’ve got on well, and there was an initial attraction, but i don’t think they will go the distance

Can’t see any of this lot lasting long after the show…

My DP (who claims not to like mafs but knows everyone's name) came out with this belter last night ...

Kwame a river.

& she calls him 'the boy' -I'm in love with the boy, what can I say?

Brilliant

I think Made in Chelsea will take over the time slot. I hope.

Genius.

Just what expertise do the 'experts' bring to this format???
None whatsoever. They pretend they don't know what the couples have been doing. They allow bullying and abusive behaviour and never deal with it on the couch. They don't deal with arguments about who said what- they just let it rumble on. Their tasks are designed to be provocative and promote confrontation. They just GENERATE the drama.
I much prefer the older series when it was more about relationships developing . Anyone else watching MAFS NZ- it's not an older one but the format is so much better. Fewer couples; more and better analysis from experts; experts who actually seem knowledgeable about relationships; experts who clearly discourage group dramas; "couples counselling" IN PRIVATE where the couples discuss their relationship and get constructive advice and get asked to reflect on / account for their own behaviour.
Why do other series do "commitment ceremonies" in the zoo of other couples when the "experts" are forever telling other couples to concentrate on their own relationships and stay out of the others relationships. So contradictory.
There are sooo many reasons why the show is hollow, pointless and lacks integrity. (But I still watch every episode).

Exactly @InTheNavy and it's getting my goat that they expect us to believe they are taking Whit and Matt seriously yet not one of them has asked the question whether they are together because of both being in trauma due to the mothers dying/terminal. Calling themselves experts is the biggest laugh on this show.

It was amusing when Zoe said they had been matched scientifically (to Matt) but surely they just thought with her -we have 2 gay women apply, jobs a good 'un!

(I do like Zoe)

I miss MAFSA. It just works so much better with Australians and their ixperts.

Surely there'll be another series coming?

Totally agree @InTheNavy

yes, it's currently filming :)

I got annoyed with the Australian one when they kept pairing people who lived in completely different places with different lifestyles eg city girl with bloke who lives on a farm hundreds of miles away. Also Australia has the dinner parties and made-up drama now too.

I'm watching NZ but noticed even in S2 they paired a couple who had hugely different views on children, the ixperts seemed miffed that neither would change their stances (despite the woman saying it was the reason her last relationship broke up - so they KNEW it) so still blunders all over the place. Just starting S3 and def an awareness of 'exposure' and 'social media gain' creeping in.

I thought they all had couples counselling in private but we just don't see it - someone said they do spend more time with the ixperts we just don't get shown that bit, it's probably a bit normal and boring!

Yep, pairing someone who wants a family unit with a FIFO worker. It's just nonsense. There's always a huge issue that they dismiss as a minor challenge to overcome. If they genuinely wanted to match people, the fundamentals wouldn't be ignored

Yes often the advice is to basically work on falling in love and figure the rest out later. Makes no sense to me.

I don’t understand why they’re letting people change their mind after putting stay or leave.

Firstly PJay put stay and declared he was leaving

Then they let Adrian decide if he wanted to change his mind.

Then they let Kwamememe change his mind

They never let Titney do it though

On the Aus programme they take a very form line on the rule of you can only leave when both say leave

• Poor Mick tolerated weeks of Jess in season 6, who it turns out only stayed because she was cheating with Daaaaan, when he kept putting leave. She didn’t speak to him during the week and he hated Sydney where they were housed. It was actually cruel - and they made him stay
• In season 7 Connie & Johnny’s relationship was dead in the water for about 4 weeks and she kept putting stay because she felt she was on a journey of self discovery.
• In season 7 again Michelle & Steve were at loggerheads and she was threatening violence towards him, but because she said stay, again due to self discovery, they made him stay.

The only time they’ve ever vetoed it was in season 7 when David and Hayley’s relationship had got so bad they were playing petty pranks on each other and she put ‘stay’ and admitted it was out of spite. They, wisely, said ‘no you’re leaving’ because they didn’t let people stay so they could be a dick to their spouse for another week.

In this series, it seems you ca change your mind after the fact!