The Baby Borrowers /new series

[3andnomore]

Will be on from next Monday again...but it's quite late...
Baby Borrowers website

who the hell in their right mind gives their babies to people like this? are people that desperate for fame and fortune? presumably the parents get paid for this?

Those poor babies are getting hardly any real interaction - it's so sad.

i guess the parents think that if it puts even one young couple off having a baby then it would be worth it. they parents can watch on cctv whenever they want and the couples always have a nanny there so the baby's are obviously not going to come to any serious harm.

Yeah that dad, baby Lewis's dad was well scary. He seemed weird to me.

I felt sorry for Amy when she was talking about her Mum and how she was never there for her, but we don't know how much of it is exagerrated. Agree about the blonde couple, they've been great and should be getting more exposure, they were hardly featured in last night's episode. The programme seems to be focusing more on the negative couples.

I fell head over heals in love with baby Bethany. She's just gorgeous.

Think it's Pirstal Beach. (Having read the back of hoodie boy's Newquay Lifeguard top. Where the hell did he get that from anyway? Can you imagine if someone was drowning and he was approached for help? Bloody hell.

There's a beach called fistral beach?

I have so far only been able to watch last night friends and family episode, and think they choosen very similar youngsters to last year....Muhammad and his gf remind me of Fisnik and Ava, the otehr black couple remind me a lot of Raissa and Kallai,and so on.
You will find they will mainly focus on the couples that are having a hard time, if things go well, they don't show that much.

wannabe, my ms was in last years series, he was almost 4 at the time of filming, and I put him into the programme, because he is, whilst gorgeous, hard work, and I felt he would be a good experience for some Teenagers that want to have a Baby soon, as in...they will think twice about it!
I know that we were not informed in advance that us parents would appear much on the programme, that was sort of dumped on us when we got there. We were not paid, but had expenses paid and were accomodated in a good hotel (mind you, I would have preferred a B&B that was near the set...but hohum....)!

And yes, parents can watch over cctv, and you can interfere if you feel it's necessary, and if you are NOT happy with how your child is treated you are free to take your child out of the care of the couples at any time.

Whilst I know that it does seem really weird that the Teenagers can be so emotional, etc...it is good to bear in mind that it is a very surreal experience...We were only for a few days involved in the programme, and I was really emotional and stressed out, etc....and I am a grown up.

Yes it's Fistral Beach. I did a google search and have contacted Newquay Tourist Info to find out more about the area and accomodation available.

Those Holiday homes really do look lovely
But dh and I were saying yesterday, that no matter the Holiday destination....with small Kids it would be stress anywhere, lol...but of course...the Kids would be in new surroundings, no matter what...

Must admit, they are rather near water there...that would freak me out with under 3's....unless they are watershy, lol....

i was welling up when the mum's had to leave their babies. i don't think i'd be able to leave my baby with a stranger for 4 days!

i totally agree hatrick - it's only a nappy!! i could understand if they were having to deal with yucky meconium - i must admit i nearly threw up a few times in the first few days but standard poo and wee - get over it!! lauren was like "sam's doing all the nappies" - yes because that's realistic! not quite the point of the experiment really is it

i really wanted their baby to wee all over the place whilst they were faffing around being sick an they hadn't put the new nappy on.

i wish one of them had had a baby in cloth nappies. can you imagine what they'd be like if they had to rinse poo out of them!

and sam was moaning that it wasn't a holiday anymore it was a chore and it was boring. no shit sherlock!! although i wish they'd realise they can still have a fun holiday with the babies. they've only got them for a few days - i can't believe he is bored already. i suppose if you have a bond to the child then it's easier to have fun with them though.

i did think the dad was a bit ott about the nappy. ds is in his about 15 hours at night and it's never harmed him. obviously it's not ideal but it's not the end of the world. "let's be safe" - wtf? muhammed was a bit laidback though ooooh well he could get a rash like it didn't really matter. and he didn't get why the dad had stepped in when it was obvious why he had. there's nothing wrong with being somewhere in the middle of not changing a nappy in 8 hours to sticking to a rigid routine. such extremes are no good for either the baby or the "parents" cos they are right - it doesn't enable them to enjoy it properly if they have to stress over a routine so much. same with george's parents. is it really vital he has his food at the exact time every day? i do feel like they are criticising them over little things a bit too much although the bed issue as obviously an important one. it left them wanting to give him back and that they couldn't handle lookin after him - i actually thought they did really well.

i totally understand why nathan's being like he is. until ds started toddling around and talking i found him boring and hated playing with him. although when i used to look after my cousins i only had them for a few days so i would make the most of it so not sure it applies really. i know i got fed up the mundaneness (not sure if thats a word?!) cos you never geta break when you're a real parent whereas when i used to have my cousins for a couple of days it was like a treat and i made the most of those few days i had them.

although he doesn't want the early years of kids cos its a commitment? what so the older years aren't a commitment ... rigggght.

i really want them to do more stuff with the babies like going to the park, swimming and ooh maybe the beach as it's right on their door step cos i know how fed up i get if i just stay in the house. i do have to go out with ds every day else i get really down.

i'm glad that zen and jason got twins cos i think alyson would have got lumbered with doing all the work otherwise and now they both have to do their fair share.

bless jo when he forgot to put the nappy on

in a way i thought it was lovely of bethany's mum and dad to offer a hand at bedtime but on the other i thought they should have left them to it. yes of course she might go to bed for them in 10 mins but she's obviously unsettled with the change but a bit of crying before bed wasn't going to kill her. they didn't really give them much chance to get her off by themselves and i think they should have left it a bit longer before stepping in. it's horrible watching your baby cry if you can't do anything about it, which is why i probably would have stopped watching the cctv for a while.

zen looked like she really wanted to cry when the camera person was talking to her but she was almost too scared to

loved how lauren pretended the baby wanted sam to change his nappy. i do that she was laughing at sam but i don't see her doing it! and why was he pulling the nappy down and spreading poo all down his legs!!

amy and bethany were fab in the pool. how many times did nathan put that suit on and off though. wasn't quite sure what he weas trrying to do!

i think nathan needs to see some sort of counsellor. he's obviously got issues concerning his relationship with his father. i think if he had a better relationshp with his mum he wouldn't care as much. i know loads of people who haven't known their dads much but they don't care cos they think their mum has done a fab job.

I finally watched a proper episode (lasts night) and I thought all in all they all dealt well enough...it's easy to forget that whilst a parent may have put a Baby in whatever routine, and gotten used to that....it's different when another person suddenly is meant to do it...

Nathan (the Emu rebell?) well, he seemed a bit overwhelmed with all the huggyness of the Baby's parents...he really seemed unvomfortable.
His girlfriend...well...not sure about her...she is very immature, and I felt sorry for her blaming it all on her own mum, but hopefully the talk will make her reflect on that properly.

Yeah, what is this "he's a real emu child" (Amy about Nathan) what the F is an emu child? Is Nathan perhaps a love child of Rod Hull?

Or Emu?

what is the whole emu thing altogether...the only explanation I can come up with is -Eco-mutants, lol...

It's quite weird, how they both think that their "independent" approach to relationship is all so great...because, well, they both seem to have "bonding" issues, etc....so...in that respect it's possible not good to be so independent of eachother...hohum...

it's emo lol not emu. wikipedia's definition of an emo

lololol....

can't help feeling like nathan thinks its a competition to have had the worst childhood. i can understand him worrying about how he might rub off on his own child but a child he's got for 4 days?? quit making excuses!

i was wondering if they were going to let them take them in a taxi or not. theoretically they were wrong - you can take them in a taxi as long is it's one that has a wheelchair space for the pushchair. in fact i'm not sure on this but i think you can take them in any taxi without a seat - there's some sort of loophole.

george's dad was saying they hadn't meant to be critical. so saying they were so worried they almost took him back wasn't critical

i can't work out if bethany's parents actually liked that tshirt or not lol. i do feel sorry for nathan. he looks really uncomfortable showing any emotion or comforting anyone. he said amy didn't like being pampered and had just gone to get away - well duuuuuh wasn't that the point? i did nearly cry when he managed to put her to sleep though. he was saying how positive he was feeling but is it me but if that look was happy i'd hate to be him and sad.

i wish muhammed had realised he could have just taken the baby's dinner out with him and fed it too him - he didn't have to stay in by himself whilst everyone else was having fun the poor thing.

amy really does have issues with her mum doesn't she? she couldn't give her any eye contact whatsoever.

george's parents said the wouldn't make great parents yet only great babysitters. i think they are wrong. when it's your own things just do click into place. it's a lot harder to look after someone else's baby on someone else's rules than it is to look after your own on terms you are comfortable with.

I can't help laughing at Nathan he is Kevin the teenager off Harry Enfield. That said he'd be just the kind of bloke i'd have gone for in my yoof..

That Joe (the one with the father off the telly) and his gf are fab aren't they? They put me to shame!

Big part of being emo seems to be the worst childhood thing and how defunct you are because of your parents, LOL most of them have normal parents, decent houses and nothing much really wrong.

Hilaroius tonight with the toddlers, the model couple were fantasic with the triplets weren't they. Poor blonde curly girl had a terrible time, I don't think her mum was really going to help much when she talked to the couple, the girl with her hair in her face is too much of a spolit kid herself to be able to make room for a toddler.

How brilliant were Hannah and Jo??

I was mesmerised at how well they did with three toddlers.

I thought Emily's (Lauren and Sam's toddler) parents were unfair on Lauren and Sam. L and S did try to get Emily to eat something and she just wouldn't. We've all been there, and as Lauren quite rightly said, they can't strap her to a chair and force feed her. She was difficult about getting into the bath too. That child actually seemed quite withdrawn to me. None of the other toddlers were like that. The one that Zen and Jason had was quiet, but that's not surprising given the vibes he would have been picking up.

Emily's Mother kept blaming Lauren and Sam for everything, like when Emily wouldn't eat the pasta, the Mother said "there's too much cheese and not enough sauce." But everyone makes pasta differently, I thought it was a bit unfair to pick holes in that. Emily's Mother said that Emily was withdrawing into herself, and that it wasn't like her, but I suspect this wasn't new behaviour. Also the Mother said that Emily goes to a creche so is used to going to people, but she needed to take into account that in the creche there's not the camera crew which will be very unfamiliar, and perhaps Emily just didn't relate too well to the strangers around her including Lauren Sam and the nanny. After all, they're not her creche staff.

Lauren said that Emily's Mother mollycoddles her and I actually agree. After all, the Mother spent half an hour with Emily at bedtime which the parents aren't really supposed to do. None of the other parents did that, not even the babies parents. I think she does mollycoddle her, and dare I say this on MN but I think she's over-compensating because she works full time and Emily is in the creche full time. I know Lauren and Sam haven't emerged as the 'shining couple' but I do feel that Emily's Mum was a bit unfair on them.

I thought Bethany's t-shirt was cool. I'd put that on my baby. If I had one.

I recognised Jo's Dad too, I wondered if it was because I used to live in the same area as them, but that's right, he's an actor isn't he? Wasn't he a doctor in Holby or Casualty or something like that?

Hannah and Jo were brilliant. True what Jo said though, they've only got to focus on the three kids in that setting, in real life situation, they'd have other stresses of daily life and one of them would be working and so on. Jo said they're doing it in an idyllic situation which is spot on.

I'm inclined to agree with you MummyPenguin, re Emily and her parents. I do think that the girl Lauren did not react in an entirely adult way though.

Oh totally not, Lauren's very childish.