Is anyone else watching the new Sense and Sensebility atm?

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It is good but quite odd as the casting is strangely similar to the film version, ie they all look and sound very alike.

but Sue, the doctor's note? My first was by no means conclusive.

Yes, but I actually received a letter from my uni saying (and I quote) 'due to your comprehensive range of failure' you get nothing. (After I'd formally withdrawn to care for my terminally ill mother!)

I did offer my mothers death cert. but all they did was apologize for their thoughtlessness. I would have prefered the degree

sue. Have to go to school to pick up, but how awful! They really didn't give you the degree? or the option of repeating a year or somethign? how dreadful.

Funding all kaput. One of the biggest regrets of my life... well, no, regret isn't the right word.. more a 'what if?'

I am completely content that I did the right thing by leaving the course. But there we are, that's life isn't it? Everyone makes sacrifices all the way through it, it's about being confident in yourself that you did the right thing.

SueBaroo I'm really sorry to hear that.

me too Sue, really sorry.
bit tied up with batlets, will post later though.

Sue. Quite awful.

Now can't quite throw off the image of onebat growing basil inn her pants. Disturbing.

Am not in my forties by the way. Have a few years to go yet. [smug knob-head emoticon]

ruty - tell me about your script and I'll try and persuade OBM to give you some of her organically grown basil.

Sue - back for a min. I do think that really is very sad. Of course you did the right thing, given the choice before you. But it is certainly not a choice you should have been asked to make, which makes me .
But who knows what the future holds?

Swedes! not just organically grown, but organically grown and, like the best Cuban cigars, rolled between my maiden thighs..

Do you think we ought to make a concerted attempt to return this thread to its rightful owners?

(really sorry Carmenere)

So, in the ET version, I posit that Hugh Lawrie's masterful ownership of the role of Mr Palmer formed the cornerstone of his astonishingly successful House.

Oh yes, Hugh Laurie is pitch-perfect as Mr Palmer. And you can definitely see the potential misanthropy that is fully-fledged in House.

OBM, I spend my life in education now anyway I've got my A-levels, I have other ambitions now.

He has one of the other v moving moments (best being imo ET's loss of control moment)
But Hugh Lawrie, when Marianne is at death's door (having barely raised his eyes from his papers thus far) is also truly wonderful.

Sense & Sensibility - Col. Brandon - Basic Instinct 2 - sex lives of round-faced men - Georgette Heyer - Sapphic Symbolism - Literature dissertations - Ponce Olympics - corn-scraping - legwarmers - epaulettes - canapes - Italian bread and pasta products- Royal Shag or Die - life choices- modern methods of herb cultivation - Sense and Sensibility.

Only on MN....

Rusty, you forgot Prussian operetta.

Onebat - I could never forget Prussian operetta - not even after years of therapy.....

I can, however, pretend not to notice it....

Vermicelli: (ludicrous baritone) pa-pa-pa-pah!
Bruschetta: (wavering shriek) pa-pa-pa-pah!

And so on. And so forth.
Sorry to hear about hte therapy Rusty.

Blimey this thread has moved on today! Anyhoo, back to our muttons. I propose that S&S is the most depressing and cynical of all JA's novels (possibly due to her extreme youth when she wrote it) and the ending could be described as very far from happy. Discuss.

Rustybear - Very big LOL. They are all over the place, aren't they? I would go so far as to describe them as rampant, in thought at any rate.

Rosa, you got to give me a minute! I'm rapidly rereading S&S.

Oh gosh Rosa, you are a bugger springing that on us like this. I was quite involved with Basil there.

I think you are quite right,though - but not sure it's to do with JA's youth. Well it is, but more perhaps to do with the fact that the form of the romantic novel utterly fails her youthful anger.

S and S's end is ambivalent, to say the least, I think. Brandon, at best, is an unconvincing sub-hero - there will always be question marks over his (inappropriate?) relationship with Marianne, and the extent to which she has made the best of a bad job, what with being damaged goods and all.

Equally, Edmund is TOTALLY compromised as a hero. With him, JA is telling us very clearly that Romance - and perhaps the novel - will never fulfill our expectations. We can never be sure, I think, is the lesson.

All these issues have been suppressed by the time she gets to P and P, I think? though they still peep through.

In particular, the narrative clunks that S and S suffers from - Marianne suddenly falling for Brandon following her near-death illness, and whatsername going for other Ferrers brother leaving Edmund free (though still utterly wet) - are totally smoothed out in P and P.

So I would say that JA has, at that point, successfully clipped her expectations to fit the form.

Might I interject at this point to quote Nancy Banks-Smith's observation that P+P is basically Cinderella?

This is probably a Very Old Thought to the Eng Litters among you but it was news to me and I do find it delightful.

Edmund, Edward, whatever..

Yes, very true Pol. and no, by no means a VOT, i think, bcs too simple.

Anxious scholarship loves over-complexity, I believe? Certainly in my case.
love it. Who is buttons btw?