Chloe *Watch ahead with spoilers!!*

[TheChosenTwo]

Just before I start there is a thread for watching at tv pace, this one may contain spolers.

So I’m on episode 4, wtf is actually going on?
She’s moved in with the dead (is she dead? Surely her nhs health records would have shown she was and so Sasha/Becky wouldn’t have been able to get her contraceptive injection?) husband, please can someone just pm me with how this all ends?!
I feel it’s going to be very uncomfortable viewing when it all inevitably unravels for her.

@Appalonia

Well I didn't understand that ending AT ALL!! Can anyone explain it to me? Who was she having the affair with? Did Elliott actually push her off the cliff? So confused!!

She'd been planning to get away, with Richard's help. I'm not sure if they were having an affair or not. I think the point is that Elliot is a controlling, violent man and she's been scared of him since she was in her teens.

She reached out to Becky from the cliff as she was the only person she could think of who wouldn't believe Elliot's lies - he'd told people that she wasn't mentally well. Even her own parents were sucked in by him,

Did he push her? I'm not sure, but most likely. Chloe calling Becky in the middle of the night was a desperate cry for help and she ended up dead.

Look at how he acted towards Becky, in the car and the house. It must have been him.

Yes Elliott was controlling, he locked Becky in the house then told her her keys were in the fruit bowl all along when clearly they weren't.
That is why Chloe jumped into the swimming pool and got straight back out again, so Elliott would smell chlorine on her. When Becky said she had been swimming he said that he couldn't smell any chlorine.

planningtomakeaplan

That was my interpretation of it too. I think it is good that TV is showing abusive guys as these anxious but charming types and not cartoon baddies like they used to. I think it was a similar depiction to the young lad in Showtrial. It was depicting someone that fooled even Chloe's mother and best friends and it was only Becky who - despite being quite seduced by him and all the wealth initially - realized something was up.

I'm glad she stood up to her mum in the end too.

I do wish they had her and Josh reconnect again at the end, but I guess there was only so much he could take. I thought the show was really good and well paced. A few twists, without relying to much on them to keep people interested and just built up tension around her getting found out or being in danger instead. I'm really fatigued by shows piling on shock deaths all of the time for impact. It's nice to have something different.

planningtomakeaplan Thanks so much for taking the time to explain that to me! Still think it was a bit vague but what you said did make sense. X

@Duxiejhrhrvjz

I enjoyed this too but did constantly find myself wondering why nobody questioned Sacha on her car. If one of my friends was driving that car it would certainly raise a question and we aren’t nearly as posh as these characters were portrayed. Maybe she could have stolen some ID of Chloe’s and got a car on finance early on…

It's a Mk II Golf GTi - a modern classic. And it's clearly been hired/borrowed from an enthusiast as you don't often see examples as clean as that one - most of them were boy-raced to death or modified. If a new friend had such a nice old GTi, I'd assume they'd chosen it specifically and spent a fair bit on maintenance - I suppose it's an ambiguous choice, so the Insta-crowd she's hanging out with can't pinpoint her.

Yes, I still miss my G-reg GTi. Sigh.

An ambiguous choice on the behalf of the production team, I mean. Obvs Becky just has it, because it's what she's somehow ended up with.

I thought it was one of the best psychological dramas for a while.
Also mixed up Alice Seabright and Alice Sebold!
I don’t think Eliot actively pushed her. I think she was running away from him. It showed him chasing her and she just went over.
Glad someone cleared up the car situation.
That £5000 to a luxury care home would last a few weeks only!

@TheChosenTwo

I watched a lot of those tense bits on mute with the subtitles on And I didn’t feel it was wrapped up either, why was she so hellbent on finding out what happened to her? I was best friends with someone at school who died about 5 years ago, I didn’t go on a mad mission to infiltrate the lives of those close to her in her last few years. I really don’t understand her motive for her frankly obsessive behaviour. I can’t believe the police didn’t check through her phone more thoroughly before returning it to her husband but I suppose they presumed it suicide enough not to follow it up.

But if yoru friend had died in mysterious circumstances and had tried to call you twice, as the last person they wanted to speak to, would taht not have got you interested? Especially if you had nothing else going in your life, except caring for a mother with early onset dementia?

I too would have liked a hint of her ending up with Josh, maybe they could have showed her arriving at a London train station?

It’s a shame because she didn’t seem to have much self worth and he was the only one that genuinely liked her and stuck with her even knowing what she was up to, seems to me like a missed opportunity of a happy ending for her character.

Wait, what?! Was her car meant to be posh? I thought it was a proper old banger

@TheChosenTwo

Wait, what?! Was her car meant to be posh? I thought it was a proper old banger

I don't think it was meant to be posh, so much as cool - to the appreciative eye? So, it's plausible that Becky has it in both lives.

@1309username

I too would have liked a hint of her ending up with Josh, maybe they could have showed her arriving at a London train station?

It’s a shame because she didn’t seem to have much self worth and he was the only one that genuinely liked her and stuck with her even knowing what she was up to, seems to me like a missed opportunity of a happy ending for her character.

Surely the woman ending up with a man doesn't need to be the happy ending all the time?! Isn't it time to move past this?

Josh was lovely, but he was a fling. And - crucially IMO - he didn't have enough faith in Becky to back her up for her last bit of her mission. He abandoned here then. She chose to carry on alone. To go back to him would be a bit pathetic, wouldn't it?

When it ended, Becky had put to bed the ghosts of the past. She got resolution on standing up to her mother who blamed for her sister's death - she realised it wasn't her fault and told her mum this. And she knew Chloe didn't totally abandon her - she was being manipulated by Elliot.

Also, she got to the truth of what happened with Chloe. It wasn't suicide. Whether she was pushed or she fell, it was Elliot's fault. A lot of things were Elliot's fault. And she had some revenge on him by ruining his chances of being an MP and publicly humiliating him (Although, I would have liked her to go to the police).

The true love story was Becky and Chloe, surely?

I like your summary plannintomakenaplan.

I agree the heart of it all was the relationship between Becky and Chloe.

I couldn't work out quite what she did at the end, sharing the recording of Elliot's raging. Was that a recording made whe he had her by the throat or a call he'd made to Chloe? was clearly sent to all of Chloe's contacts and Olivia said Elliot was now in a lot of trouble.

So she'd outed him as a violent abuser at the very least. But how had she done it?

I really liked the scene towards the end when Becky meets up with Chloe and they get in her car and turn the smiths on and start to drive off.

@planningtomakeaplan, i thought he offered her a lift to wherever she was going next and she declined.

I didn’t mean as in a happily ever after kind of way, but I would have seen it as her next chapter, leaving Bristol behind, where, other than her mum, she didn’t seem to have a career or friends.

I also didn’t seem to understand why she wanted Livia to stay in touch. She clearly knew Chloe was unhappy and had asked for her help and she didn’t seem to have done anything about it. And even when Becky told her about Elliot she was like ‘we’ve know each other since we were young, he’s my friend’.

Becky and Josh seemed so comfortable with each other and I could see her going back to him now that the Chloe story was over.

Re: the car, I thought that it was likely Becky's mum's old car, but Becky realised that an ancient old Golf is somehow acceptable in the arty posh circles, in an ironic way and a nod to the notion that old money runs old banger cars (which some of the "country set" do - but the right brand, obviously. An ancient Golf is happily one such car). She would never have afforded a new one.

I think re Livia that she just liked Livia, even though previously Livia couldn't see Elliot for who he really was as she was blinded by familiarity/loyalty. But there was the sense at the end that Livia was not continuing to support Elliot.

Was the caravan Livia's? And how did Chloe have a key for it, if Livia was on Elliot's side not Chloe's? And why was Livia visiting the caravan at the end anyway?

And also, I loved the clothes. Not for me personally, (apart from Chloe's wardrobe which I absolutely loved) but for the characters and the circles they moved in, I thought they were perfect. Stylist did a really good job.

I agree with your posts planningtomakeaplan.

I thought it was one of the best dramas on TV for a long time and had me hooked from the start. I changed my mind so many times about what was happening! The ending was great too, I like to imagined the caravan was bought and paid for so Becky had a home for life. She’ll get a job as she’s very resourceful and will make a great life for herself.

I really enjoyed this and it totally went in a different direction then I was expecting. I didn't like becky at all in the beginning thinking she was going to be a typical psycho but she really wasnt and I really liked her. I actually liked the ending but was partly hoping Chloe had faked her own death and Chloes parents were protecting her by covering it but again that's been done lots before so it kept me guessing. But I agree the real love story was between becky and Chloe. And the closure was Becky putting her old ghosts to bed with her mum and Chloe and confronting those who let Chloe down.

That's so funny, I saw her car and thought bloody hell, how can she afford that!!!
(Not a car expert at all but I know they are highly desirable and with the price of petrol being what it is very expensive to run)

Just finished watching this. I really enjoyed it, great writing and fantastic lead performance by Erin Doherty. The last couple of episodes were unbelievably tense.

I thought the two phone calls from Chloe were both missed calls, so there was no actual conversation, everything was just imagined scenarios while Becky was trying to figure out what had happened.

I agree some aspects required suspension of disbelief. I found Josh to be an unrealistic character - I would believe he admired her grift and was attracted to her in a "friends with benefits" way but in some of the scenes they were acting like boyfriend and girlfriend when he knew full well she was seeing Elliot. He just seemed to have unlimited patience. It would have been more plausible to write him as someone she had known and been friends with for a while, so he knew her true identity that way, rather than someone she'd just met.

Also it didn't make sense that the way the police didn't really seem to do a proper investigation into Chloe's death, given there was no evidence of any prior intention for Chloe to commit suicide, and the messages on her phone clearly established a pattern of controlling behaviour by her husband. But I can see this was necessary for the story.

It seemed like a major lapse in judgement for Becky to go to Elliot's house alone at the end to pick up her keys when she had just had it confirmed that he possibly killed his wife, and also he knew her true identity and was likely to become violent. I can't believe anyone would do this in real life.

Was also confused by what "big trouble" Elliot was in at the end. I get that it would be damaging for his reputation and political aspirations but was the implication that his role in Chloe's death was now being investigated properly? Surely the recording Becky posted on Chloe's social media account would be relatively easy to identify as dating to after Chloe's death. There would still be no evidence he pushed Chloe to her death unless her mother was prepared to testify that she had witnessed it, and it didn't seem like she was.

I really enjoyed this. I thought that the final phone call between Becky and Chloe was actually in Becky's imagination as all the others had been, as the call was originally introduced as not having been answered?

I think that a big loose end was Becky's mum and what would happen to her in the care home. The money that Becky left was out of the £5k and wouldn't pay much more than a week or so of care home fees.

Josh was lovely!

What/whose was that huge country pile where Livia conducted her PR strategy meetings/arsey 'Shut up! No! Shut up!' phone calls? Was that Nish's? Or office space?