Page 2 | Chloe *Watch ahead with spoilers!!*

TheChosenTwo · 2022-02-07T21:19:32+00:00

Just before I start there is a thread for watching at tv pace, this one may contain spolers. So I’m on episode 4, wtf is actually going on? She’s moved in with the dead (is she dead? Surely her nhs health records would have shown she was and so Sasha/Becky wouldn’t have been able to get her contraceptive injection?) husband, please can someone just pm me with how this all ends?! I feel it’s going to be very uncomfortable viewing when it all inevitably unravels for her.

MrsPelligrinoPetrichor · 10/02/2022 00:30

@RevolvingPivot

How will she pay for her mums care? £5,000 won't last forever. Did her mum recognise her in the end when she said she's lovely? Who's paying the caravan site rent? Did Elliot Kill Chloe? Was he arrested? It feels like they've missed an episode.

It'll last about a week!

Apart from that annoying detailing I absolutely loved this series,I've not seen anything so gripping on years. I'm usually really disappointed with dramas, even dh who is notorious for wandering off after episode 2 was totally hooked.

MrsPelligrinoPetrichor · 10/02/2022 00:30

**in years

MrsPelligrinoPetrichor · 10/02/2022 00:31

@MyBeloved

Just finished bingeing this- was very typical of Alice Seabright. I read Lovely Bones a long time ago which focused on messages from beyond the grave again.

I found this adaptation compelling and wonderfully acted. Well done, BBC.

I made the same mistake too!

longwayoff · 10/02/2022 08:21

I've neglected to say that I found it completely absorbing, a rarity, as I usually reach peak irritation around Ep 2 of most recent dramas and abandon them and Erin Doherty: what an actress and what a demanding role. Very impressive.

Crackercrazy · 10/02/2022 08:30

@StarsShineBrightly

I think Chloe never got through to Becky on the phone. As she was going through and working it all out, she was seeing different ways in which the phone call could have gone if she had answered. She envisioned Chloe being mean when she thought she was screwing up.

At the end, she believed that Chloe was trying to get hold of her for help and to escape and if she had of picked up, she would have gone to get her.

She worked out about the hotel through the tags on social media on the night she died.

Also thought Elliot killed her as he couldn't bear to be left.

I also wondered if contraceptive injection was done privately so they might not automatically be informed of her death??

I did enjoy it, looking for next binge watch!

Thank you, that makes sense to me! I binged watched it but was only half watching so missed a lot of detail. I was confused by the them together in the car - where did they go?! But a dream sequence makes sense.

At least she got some kind of closure from Chloe when she found the letter. Just teens being teens. The bath scene with her sister was tragic.

Private clinic also good shout.

I love these tv threads - can always find explanations for everything you’ve missed or not understood

Retrievemysanity · 11/02/2022 16:16

Just binged all the episodes! I really loved this, so tense and great acting from the Becky Green/Sasha character. I too assumed it was a private clinic for the contraception jab and I don’t think she ever liked Elliot, I thought she was just trying to uncover the truth about Chloe’s death. She pieced everything together through the diary entries and corresponding Instagram posts.

Loved the themes of friendship particularly how tricky teen girls can be and also the tangled loyalties/self interest shown between all the friends to the extent they were prepared to ignore a possible murder. Loved how it showed the ‘perfect lives’ on Instagram are often far from it. Also found Becky’s relationship with her mum really sad and thought it explained why she became a bit of a misfit and prepared to infiltrate Chloe’s world in a way most of us wouldn’t.

I did think the Elliot character could’ve been explored a bit more. There didn’t seem to be enough instances of his controlling of Chloe really to make the leap from him being a bit of a knob to someone who would push his wife off a cliff.

Chocomelon · 11/02/2022 20:28

I'm looking for something new to watch too

Also enjoyed the woman across the street from the girl in the window

Doodledoop · 13/02/2022 07:42

I really enjoyed it. I kinda think a lot of the details wouldn't really have worked in real life - coat still in cloakroom, no-one mentioning Becky's old car and just length of time Elliot and Chloe must have been together.

But i thought the piecing it together puzzle box elements and the emotional truth to all the relationships were really well done.

I was very satisfied with how it all wrapped up and pleased Becky was a hero in the end not the sociopathic misfit she seemed at the start.

Duxiejhrhrvjz · 13/02/2022 08:16

I enjoyed this too but did constantly find myself wondering why nobody questioned Sacha on her car. If one of my friends was driving that car it would certainly raise a question and we aren’t nearly as posh as these characters were portrayed.
Maybe she could have stolen some ID of Chloe’s and got a car on finance early on…

Chocomelon · 13/02/2022 08:53

Yes the car bit was strange!

Rollergirl11 · 13/02/2022 09:08

It definitely kept my interest but I was disappointed with the ending. It just seemed to meander to nothing. So all the different times it showed Becky answering the phone to Chloe were all her imagining different scenarios paying out? What with those scenes and the flashbacks and the scenes of Chloe re-enacting (as per Becky’s imaginings) moments leading up to her death it was sometimes tricky to work out what actually happened and what didn’t.

It was also difficult to establish how much time had passed. A month, 2, 6? How long was her Mum in the home for? She seemed to hardly see her at all after that.

There is no way that a box and coat left in the cloakroom by a woman that died would still be there. The police would have discovered that! And how come the police released her phone without checking if there were any messages on it?

There were a lot of plot holes but overall it was enjoyable.

RampantIvy · 13/02/2022 13:55

I was very satisfied with how it all wrapped up

I wasn't. I felt that it wasn't all wrapped up at all. There were far too many loose ends and unanswered questions.

1309username · 13/02/2022 13:57

I believe she never answered the phone, that’s why in the morning they were showing as missed calls and she thought it was Josh.

I thought it was ridiculous when the police called her because they saw Chloe had called her number and Becky said she didn’t know who she was and the police woman was like ‘oh well, sorry to bother you, no big deal’. No wonder the police never found out about the box and coat….

I did lots of 10 second forward on the 5th episode, couldn’t stand the tension.

Rollergirl11 · 13/02/2022 14:34

@RampantIvy

I was very satisfied with how it all wrapped up

I wasn't. I felt that it wasn't all wrapped up at all. There were far too many loose ends and unanswered questions.

100% agree with this. It’s like they ran out of time. I was thinking there had to be another episode as it seemed totally unfinished and a weird way to end it.

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TheChosenTwo · 13/02/2022 14:34

I watched a lot of those tense bits on mute with the subtitles on
And I didn’t feel it was wrapped up either, why was she so hellbent on finding out what happened to her? I was best friends with someone at school who died about 5 years ago, I didn’t go on a mad mission to infiltrate the lives of those close to her in her last few years. I really don’t understand her motive for her frankly obsessive behaviour.
I can’t believe the police didn’t check through her phone more thoroughly before returning it to her husband but I suppose they presumed it suicide enough not to follow it up.

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Retrievemysanity · 13/02/2022 16:28

@TheChosenTwo Becky was following Chloe on Instagram quite obsessively before she died wasn’t she and then the police told her that Chloe had called her just before she died which would’ve been out of the blue. Coupled with The Smiths post that Chloe put up, I took it that Becky had never really got over their relationship breakdown and then she finds out that neither had Chloe really and that Chloe was trying to tell her something, so makes it her mission to find out the truth. Plus she doesn’t really have a life of her own, she’s been living through Chloe’s social media and now that’s gone, she’s creating her own. That was my interpretation anyway!

Inkanta · 13/02/2022 16:53

I think the moral to the tale is that you need to find and build a life of your own and take care of yourself. Don't lose yourself and obsess over other people. Or you could get in a pickle (smile)

Doodledoop · 13/02/2022 17:25

I think the lack of definitive ending is kind of the point.

When someone dies in ambiguous circumstances you'll never definitevly know what happened, you never really know what happens inside someone elses relationship and you really don't know what is going on in anyone's life from their instagram account.

But Becky got a closure which worked for her - Chloe loved her, all her 'new' friends let her down and on night of her death she was actually on her way to Becky. That will never be full story, but its Becky's truth and restored her sense of self.

Whole thing is a bit of a modern fable really..

Chocomelon · 13/02/2022 18:54

I thought it was ridiculous when the police called her because they saw Chloe had called her number and Becky said she didn’t know who she was and the police woman was like ‘oh well, sorry to bother you, no big deal’. No wonder the police never found out about the box and coat….

Yes I thought the call was weird! Hardly thorough

why was she so hellbent on finding out what happened to her? I was best friends with someone at school who died about 5 years ago, I didn’t go on a mad mission to infiltrate the lives of those close to her in her last few years. I really don’t understand her motive for her frankly obsessive behaviour.

This made sense to me. At the very least I think you'd be curious if someone tried to call you the night they may have killed themselves and the obsession came from the unresolved issues about their relationship and the dissatisfaction with her own life (I think)

When someone dies in ambiguous circumstances you'll never definitevly know what happened, you never really know what happens inside someone elses relationship and you really don't know what is going on in anyone's life from their instagram account.

I agree with this

SuitcaseOfWhine · 13/02/2022 22:41

@Duxiejhrhrvjz

I enjoyed this too but did constantly find myself wondering why nobody questioned Sacha on her car. If one of my friends was driving that car it would certainly raise a question and we aren’t nearly as posh as these characters were portrayed. Maybe she could have stolen some ID of Chloe’s and got a car on finance early on…

I did think this initially. They were all a bit hipsterish though and it was a very retro looking VW - maybe 25 years old? Some people spend quite a bit on these sorts of cars as a 'classic' car, so maybe it was that.

Gardeningcreature · 13/02/2022 23:02

I really enjoyed it.
I started off thinking Becky was awful, pretending to be better than she was. By the end I sympathised with her. The others were snobs who only cared about social standing. Paying £950 gym membership, ridiculous. Then I remembered a gym where I used to live, again ridiculously expensive but people paid it because they were snobs. It wasn't any better than any other gym. The only thing which marked it as different was the price and how that kept poorer people away. Both Liv and Elliott pulled faces when Becky said her mum was missing in X area, they clearly looked down on poorer people.
I wrote on the other thread that I liked how the main character was female and not a cliche. Good to see a woman with flaws played so superbly by Erin Doherty.

planningtomakeaplan · 14/02/2022 10:37

The key to all this IMO is that Alex is the monster. And that Chloe couldn't reply on any of her circle for help.

Becky and Chloe were very close friends at school. Chloe moved schools and started seeing Alex.

Alex is - and always was - a possessive, jealous, dangerous man (or boy). We know that from the letter Becky finds, that Chloe wrote to her, but tells her Alex doesn't want her to send it. She was already afraid of him at that point, but like many sociopaths, he was charming and loved by others so she doubted herself. Alex was probably jealous of their friendship and wanted rid of Becky.

Chloe plotted to leave Alex with Richard. When he found out, she was terrified. She tried to tell Liv at the hotel (Liv wouldn't listen, on the CCTV), then she went outside expecting Richard to be there as arranged, but he had let her down too. So she fled to her parents, but even they let her down, falling for his bullshit instead of protecting their daughter.

So, when she ended up drugged and terrified on the the edge of a cliff, trying to escape Alex, she called the only person she could think of who she could trust to help get, and not be sucked in by Alex - Becky.

That's what makes sense to me, anyway!

planningtomakeaplan · 14/02/2022 10:37

*rely, not reply!

Appalonia · 14/02/2022 20:57

Well I didn't understand that ending AT ALL!! Can anyone explain it to me? Who was she having the affair with? Did Elliott actually push her off the cliff? So confused!!

planningtomakeaplan · 14/02/2022 21:58

@planningtomakeaplan