KATIE PRICE MUCKY MANSION WED 9pm ch4

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Anyone see last night

Katie transforms her uninhabitable 19 room mansion into a forever family home

On for 3 episodes

Also repeated tonight at 11.05pn

I haven’t seen yet as clashed with bay and bull so will record tonight

Interesting that Kerry Katona has also ended up with a sketchy layabout partner, is also unable to remain single for a fortnight, also has five DC by three previous relationships, has also gone bankrupt and has also ended up resorting to Only Fans.

Oh yes and she was also abused in childhood. These women don’t “choose” all this. They’re on runaway trains fleeing early trauma, emotional wiring askew. This was done to them.

Has Katie ever discussed the possibility of being bipolar? I know you can't put every "bad" personality trait down to MH issue. For example I'm autistic. If someone suggested that someone acting a certain
"Negative Way" was down to autism i would be offended because we don't all act that way. Sorry I can't explain it. What I mean is I'm not making excuses this could just be her personality or it could be fine to something else?

@Doubleraspberry thank you - I'm doing a lot better bit still struggle with psychosis and I'm heavily medicated just to be able to function

@RevolvingPivot

Has Katie ever discussed the possibility of being bipolar? I know you can't put every "bad" personality trait down to MH issue. For example I'm autistic. If someone suggested that someone acting a certain "Negative Way" was down to autism i would be offended because we don't all act that way. Sorry I can't explain it. What I mean is I'm not making excuses this could just be her personality or it could be fine to something else?

I expect that would've been investigated at The Priory.

@RevolvingPivot I was just using bipolar as an example. I've seen people with PTSD (I think Katie has spoken about trauma) have night terrors and smash rooms up, very severe self harm during psychosis, a friend's mum had schizophrenia and used to disappear after throwing their house keys down the drain.

Some meds can also have the opposite to intended affect, causing suicidal ideation etc.

I'm autistic too and I feel it's minimising to deny the experiences of those who do have negative behaviours due to their autism. As they say if you've met one person with autism, you've met one person with autism. That works both ways. It's just reality.

@Thoosa

she also exploited herself when she went into the modelling world and courted the press and the attention. She used it cleverly to get herself famous and into the position she is in today. It's a double edge sword. The boob implants, the way she dressed, acted and the public spats was all to get herself in the press and to stay in the press. You make it sound like she was a vulnerable teen with no control over her decisions. I don't believe that. She put herself on his journey.

I think she was very young early in her career, known to be a survivor of childhood sexual abuse (which skews boundaries and leaves a trauma response), definitely was exploited (by the culture, the industry, men she dated), and has remained very vulnerable throughout.

It has been blatantly obvious for a very long time that she has issues and needs a intensive therapeutic support. She didn’t get it because she was enabled by those around her and was a valuable commodity in her industry.

Her “industry” is nasty. It chews women up and spits them out. It tends to attract damaged (abused) young women in the first place.

Slut shaming her for decisions she made as a very young WC woman, influenced by others, is revolting.

I have never slut shamed her or called her that name.

I just don't think she's a victim of her industry. I think she was one of the first to carve a path in the industry and find a new way of being famous for nothing. I think she uses the media just like they use her. She courts it, they respond.

I wonder if she ever regrets making her whole life and her children's lives so public with her reality shows. It clearly was a factor in the end of her marriage with PA and became too much.

I think it's pretty telling how PA managed to find love again in a happy, normal marriage with a normal women with a normal job who is completely disinterested in fame. His children's faces aren't shown in the reality show series and he doesn't exploit them like the two eldest.

I think that says a lot about KP about how obsessed with fame she is and making these shock announcements in the media to make money out of every aspect of her life rather than keeping things to herself. It says a lot about who was really most interested in being famous and staying famous.

I wonder what the latest ex husband is like as a father so those two children don't get up as the grow older. If he's got a sex addiction maybe he will have an endless series of women through the house.

@sparkycats

'I think it's pretty telling how PA managed to find love again in a happy, normal marriage with a normal women with a normal job who is completely disinterested in fame. His children's faces aren't shown in the reality show series and he doesn't exploit them like the two eldest.'

You are joking?
His new wife doesn't court fame? She has
a magazine column, is in Ok every other week, is constantly on ITV for This Morning, Lorraine etc

I would hardly say a 36 year old man with 2 kids going after a young 20 year old girl is 'normal'.
If he wasn't Peter Andre I doubt Emily would have got with him.

Remember Pete and Emily have a very good PR team

' it's empowering for women to make money from this'

//// I also agree very much that this attitude in society generally is massively damaging. Until we see young men paraded around like pieces of meat so regularly and openly (and I don't mean Chippendale type stuff for harmless hen parties) for women to wank over, then it's absolutely not to empower women and girls. It's so men can enjoy the product of exploitation.

Sorry meant to add that I'd bet that at the top of the food chain of the young women and girls making a living this way, 9 times out of 10 there is probably a man making a fortune.

Pa did say for ages was nothing between him and Emily. That never wouid be as he too old as 15/16yrs older then her ……

I don't think Emily courts fame. She is clearly has a pleasant and appealing personality and looks the part for a tv role as she can explain medical issues clearly and without coming across as patronising.
Why shouldn't she do that, if she's in demand and good at it and can make a difference just because Katie is jealous as hell?

[quote Buttercup2000]@sparkycats

'I think it's pretty telling how PA managed to find love again in a happy, normal marriage with a normal women with a normal job who is completely disinterested in fame. His children's faces aren't shown in the reality show series and he doesn't exploit them like the two eldest.'

You are joking?
His new wife doesn't court fame? She has
a magazine column, is in Ok every other week, is constantly on ITV for This Morning, Lorraine etc

I would hardly say a 36 year old man with 2 kids going after a young 20 year old girl is 'normal'.
If he wasn't Peter Andre I doubt Emily would have got with him.

Remember Pete and Emily have a very good PR team[/quote]
Having watched Peter Andres reality show he has known Emily for a long time. She is the daughter of a family friend I think and they were good friends first.

I don't think she courts fame at all and it has nothing to do with him being PA, I think they found love right under their noses. The public appearances she makes are in her capacity as a doctor. So what if it's because of who she's married to. You could say that about a huge number of celebrities. She got offered an opportunity, why not? She's not there shooting her mouth off about KP or anyone else or revealing unnecessary things about their personal life. She's talking as a doctor not a wannabe celebrity. Why would she say no to the opportunity?

I don't particularly know her or follow her or him but I think she comes across as really nice and an excellent mother and step mother. Taking on PA and his kids with all those issues, and having to take a restraining order out against KP and being thrust into the limelight when you aren't a celeb must have been pretty hard. She took it all in her stride and from the interviews I have seen she seems really down to earth.

Also, there have been multiple opportunities for them to hit back at KP when she has attacked them in the media. I bet they know loads of stuff they could have leaked to he media and been paid to do loads of stories about KP. They have refused to do so and have shown some dignity and integrity. PA has said he could reveal what happened with KP but he won't as he knows the children will read about it for years to come. That's more than KP has done. She doesn't think twice about slating the father and SM put her children if it makes her money and gets her headlines. That's why she's not a good mother, she doesn't do what's in their best interests she does what's in hers. If the shoe was on the other foot I have no doubt she wouldn't hesitate to sell a story on PA if she could. I think that's why he insisted on all communication going through a solicitor as he knows that.

Ah, now, Peter Andre carried right on making reality shows after he and Katie split up, featuring his kids the whole way. If he really didn't want them in the public eye, he could have stopped it all then and there. Even if she had carried on, their father putting a lid on it when they were with him would have sent them a real message that their privacy was worth something.

Their life with him is clearly calmer and more stable, no one could argue against that, but he definitely bears some culpability in the exploitation of his children. I wince when I see pictures of them with their half-siblings faces blurred as it feels like a statement that their private lives are less valued.

Basically any celebrity parent who puts their kids on to social media or TV programmes or magazines is using them for money and exposure, regardless of how happy their home life is. There is no need to do it; plenty of famous people have children that have never been seen in public, and any parent can request that the media blur out their children's faces if they feature in a picture accidentally. There is no free pass for Peter Andre here, or Keiran Hayler either.

And don’t forget, in the wake of their divorce, with KP saying all kinds of things about PA he sued and won for defamation.
I honestly think she’s told so many lies about her life that she doesn’t know where the lies end and the truth begins

@Doubleraspberry

Ah, now, Peter Andre carried right on making reality shows after he and Katie split up, featuring his kids the whole way. If he really didn't want them in the public eye, he could have stopped it all then and there. Even if she had carried on, their father putting a lid on it when they were with him would have sent them a real message that their privacy was worth something.

Their life with him is clearly calmer and more stable, no one could argue against that, but he definitely bears some culpability in the exploitation of his children. I wince when I see pictures of them with their half-siblings faces blurred as it feels like a statement that their private lives are less valued.

Yes totally agree. I expect by that time it probably seemed pointless covering their faces as they had known nothing else by that time. I agree, they both were involved in exploiting their children. It's a wonder they seem to have grown up so well rounded- so far anyway!

At least he seems to have learnt from it not to go down the same path with the next two.

I think it is Emily who is driving the "no visible faces" for the younger two. It so not her fault that the older two are already out there.
It is Kieran's fiancée Michelle, not Emily, who has a restraining order out against Katie, for verbally abusing her and school staff on the playground in front of the kids. I believe she called them effing c...s. She then said in/ after court she wasn't sorry as she hadn't done anything that bad.
Great parenting right there.

[quote DonnieDark]@RevolvingPivot I was just using bipolar as an example. I've seen people with PTSD (I think Katie has spoken about trauma) have night terrors and smash rooms up, very severe self harm during psychosis, a friend's mum had schizophrenia and used to disappear after throwing their house keys down the drain.

Some meds can also have the opposite to intended affect, causing suicidal ideation etc.

I'm autistic too and I feel it's minimising to deny the experiences of those who do have negative behaviours due to their autism. As they say if you've met one person with autism, you've met one person with autism. That works both ways. It's just reality.[/quote]
Oh I didn't see you mentioned bipolar

People are assuming it's Katie selling stories but you have no way to know. Often it's 'a source close to KP said...', so her friends or family are making the money.

You have to remember that they will make a whole story from a single paragraph on Instagram, with embellishments. It's not usually the celebs calling them up and telling them their personal stuff.

On the child exploitation point, look at The Radfords, the Osbournes, the Kardashians, Honey Boo Boo, Dance Moms, I am Jazz - and many more, it's a popular format. Those shows are in a different league compared to KP. Junior is trying to launch his music career, which is probably why he isn't seen much now.

It's scarily easy to paint someone as the crazy ex, especially when they've had MH problems.

Much of what is in the tabloids is lifted straight from Katie's own IG pages. Not sure who gets paid for what in that instance.

@CallmeHendricks

"Yeah his friends daughter who he met first when she was 12 years old." No, this is incorrect. Peter Andre first met Dr Ru McDonagh in 2010 when he performed surgery on his kidney stones. Even if he had met Emily at that point, she would have been at least 21 and was already studying medicine.

You are spreading misinformation.

I take back my previous statement.

She was 20 and he was 36 when they started dating.