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24 hours in police custody

483 replies

Sharpie0870 · 03/01/2022 21:13

Is anyone watching?
These parents are GUILTY!!

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Goonergirl14 · 05/01/2022 00:18

@Ecosaurus

That post should be taken down *@AnnaMarieQ* .
Totally agree. Such a horrible watch, must have been horrific for the neighbours aswell, reporting incidents knowing young children were in the flat. Spouting constantly he knows the law..clearly doesn't if he is prepared to commit the crimes he has..
UniversalAunt · 05/01/2022 00:35

I am just watching the second episode… at the point where, in his police interview after insisting that he is just ‘verbal’ & that he doesn’t flip just like that’ he responds to the police officer’s assertion that the situation is far more dangerous than he thinks & that he may be implicated in the injuries that killed baby Teddie.

I had to stop watching as his face twisted up, his tone became threatening…& he was obviously about to flip. It took seconds from a reasonable comment by a professional police officer to the point where he was pumped & intimidating.

Chilling.

Deep breath before I watch the rest.

whatsthestory123 · 05/01/2022 00:40

@Sharpie0870

My daughter was 18 months when she witnessed her father punch me in the face and strangle and stamp on me, if she recalled it so clearly and spoke like that, id be utterly heartbroken.
op do you think your daughter wont be affected by such violent behaviour towards you

just because she was very young doesnt mean there will be no effect
how old was she when he left?

ItsNotNormalLove · 05/01/2022 00:43

@UniversalAunt

I am just watching the second episode… at the point where, in his police interview after insisting that he is just ‘verbal’ & that he doesn’t flip just like that’ he responds to the police officer’s assertion that the situation is far more dangerous than he thinks & that he may be implicated in the injuries that killed baby Teddie.

I had to stop watching as his face twisted up, his tone became threatening…& he was obviously about to flip. It took seconds from a reasonable comment by a professional police officer to the point where he was pumped & intimidating.

Chilling.

Deep breath before I watch the rest.

Was that the part where he said "how dare you" in a very low voice to the interviewing officer? It really creeped me out when he said that, I thought he was going to go nuts then and there.
Unsure33 · 05/01/2022 00:46

Thankyou@RunningFromInsanity

Ellowyn · 05/01/2022 00:56

I had to watch the first episode on-line and the 2nd hasn't been posted yet. What stood out to me is that the mother would have known her baby was damaged/broken. There would have been swelling, heat, bruises and the baby would have been screaming when touched.

The other thing that stood out was that they were saying a 12 week old baby doesn't roll over and so couldn't of fallen off something. I got a bit worried for some reason as my first baby, who's now 47 years old, could lift his head at birth. In his first two weeks, if I put him to sleep on his belly facing north, he would often be on his back facing south in the morning and completely the other side of his crib. (We were advised to put them on their bellies to sleep in the 70's). If he'd have fallen off something nobody would have believed he rolled over by himself. I always kept the sides of his crib/cot up so he was trapped and well protected.

UniversalAunt · 05/01/2022 01:22

Well…some unexpected highlights for the rest of the episode.

I’ve not yet read through the previous posts, so I’ll take a peek soon.

But what a pair, without judging too harshly people I don’t know, it seems that they brought out the very worst in each other.

He a raging self obsessed, self serving narcissist. The irony of his self inflicted injuries almost mirroring those of baby Teddie’s was not lost on me - of all the ways to commit suicide, he chose to inflict fatal brutal force on himself.

I found her eerily cold & indifferent to her children, as well as her attitude to her own safely. Alas, we do hear that people think that DA in the home does not affect children as they were in another room, despite all the evidence, anecdote & livid experience that says otherwise. The only thing that seemed to upset her was the news that baby Teddie was not his, & that was momentary. She wears a mask so she is hard to read but her actions say that she did not protect that child by denying what was going on.

I found the child’s testimony horribly sad. I assume that her three other children have remained with their father as their mother failed to protect them & she was convicted of neglect. Yes the house looked nice & tidy, but neglect was well established.

I was impressed by the intelligence, compassion, integrity, hard work & professionalism of the police team.

Off to read what you’ve all said.

parchedjanuary · 05/01/2022 06:39

Still feel so angry and upset. Haven't been able to sleep. It's just so horrific. Horrible.

crochetmonkey74 · 05/01/2022 07:27

I'm just catching up on this , the bit In the first episode when he says "i beg your fucking pardon" really unnerved me. I'm not sure why (he goes on to be much worse in interviews) but the way he says that is so odd and attempting to be submissive

CornishTiger · 05/01/2022 07:31

I’ll watch this later. I looked last night for the Serious case review from Cambridge safeguarding. They’ve not done one yet. It was 2019 wasn’t it? He’s been convicted so I don’t understand why review not now done.

Belledan1 · 05/01/2022 07:47

I was surprised how well groomed she always looked. The last thing you would think of if your kid had died. I hopes he suffers in prison and I bet she be punished now by public.

DillonPanthersTexas · 05/01/2022 07:51

When they interviewed one of her other kids, that was heartbreaking.

Yep, that was very tough viewing.

I honestly thought at one point there would be a moment when the mother realised she was 'safe' from Kane the cold mask would drop and she would completely open up but she just seemed disconnected and not bothered. Really odd.

CornishTiger · 05/01/2022 07:57

Just realised no serious case review yet prob due to procedure.

Conviction. Inquest then SCR.

The serious case review will give more information about why police didn’t do safeguarding alert or if they did what local authority did with it. That’s what I want to know.

DillonPanthersTexas · 05/01/2022 08:23

I assume they need to track down the biological father and tell him that the kid he did not know he had has been murdered.

Bluntness100 · 05/01/2022 08:28

I find the sentancing too lenient, he abused and killed a new born baby, why was his term not much much longer? And she knew it was happening and lied, and got community service, she protected him to the end. Even though she knew, she knew he abused her other kids and murdered her child, and that little baby would have been in pain from the very first injury.

I don’t think enough info was given as to why the sentencing was so lenient, particularly hers.

Antsinmypantsneedtodance · 05/01/2022 08:31

@DillonPanthersTexas

I assume they need to track down the biological father and tell him that the kid he did not know he had has been murdered.
He's already aware. He's been quite public about it talking to the press about how he's not sure how to grieve for a son he didn't know he had etc. He's been fighting to have his name on Teddies birth certificate.
Toddlerteaplease · 05/01/2022 08:39

@waterlego

How can she think his violence against her ‘doesn’t matter’ and has no relevance to the children? Even if she genuinely believes he hasn’t hurt any of the children, she thinks all his yelling and the control and violence against her won’t affect the children? Jesus Christ.
If it made us feel very uneasy just watching it on TV. How on Earth did the kids feel.
ineedsun · 05/01/2022 09:13

[quote Unsure33]@MsMoody

He was intelligent enough to quote all his rights and turn in the waterworks when needed .[/quote]
He didn’t do either of those things very well though did he? The ‘rights’ that he knew were total bollocks and those ‘tears’ were completely unconvincing.

It makes me wonder what sort of a life Lucci and Kane had that they think this is a normal way to behave and have no comprehension of the impact of this on the children. The inability to put a child before their own immediate needs is very deeply ingrained

DillonPanthersTexas · 05/01/2022 09:17

You have to wonder how a man like this behaves outside the domestic setting, is he kicking off at work, at his friends down the pub, at family members? Did he have a temper like this at school?

Bluntness100 · 05/01/2022 09:39

It makes me wonder what sort of a life Lucci and Kane had that they think this is a normal way to behave and have no comprehension of the impact of this on the children

The fact her father chucked them out and said his behaviour was controlling shows that her at least potentially wasn’t raised this way.

Kane also needed a responsible adult in the interviews to ensure he understood, and he was in his thirties, which potentially indicates additional needs.

Lucy knew about the abuse of her own kids, her own daughters testimony shows it. So both her and Kane lied and knew what was occuring was wrong. I think that’s why she was saying the kids weren’t impacted, as she knew it meant she was culpable, she was protecting herself as well as him.

I simply can’t understand why she got two years community service for that neglect, there must be some thing not shown, which mitigated her behaviour.

Toddlerteaplease · 05/01/2022 09:46

@CornishTiger it may have been put down as 'an unnamed safeguarding board' many of them are.

CornishTiger · 05/01/2022 09:52

@Toddlerteaplease what do you mean please? It wouldn’t appear on Cambridge safeguarding board page?

I think it’s still in progress tbh. Don’t think there is a national database of scr is there?

CornishTiger · 05/01/2022 09:53

Scrub that. Nspcc do.

learning.nspcc.org.uk/case-reviews/national-case-review-repository

ineedsun · 05/01/2022 10:06

I’m about to be very judgemental here but I’d be surprised if he had a job or any friends, based on his behaviour.

From experience of working with offenders, people with SEND which aren’t met at school are massively over represented in the prison population, so they are labelled as behaviourally problematic without further assessment.

In terms of the pub, probably depends what sort of pub he frequents. I guess he’s either going to be challenged by others or they’ll just tolerate his behaviour.

Ecosaurus · 05/01/2022 10:39

@Bluntness100

The fact her father chucked them out and said his behaviour was controlling shows that her at least potentially wasn’t raised this way.

The fact that her father chucked out his daughter with a man he thought was abusive and controlling, with her three young children, seems to be telling me something quite different to be honest.