Showtrial spoilers

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Can someone please tell me what Talitha appeared to sign to Cleo just before she got in the taxi to leave ?

Oh , I've just seen further up the thread , signed a heart & blew a kiss . Thank you !!!

The drug dealers sister nicked and used cyber bank card. The drug dealer told Cleo, but had a hold over her (I forget what, he said he would spill the beans over something else) to prevent her dropping the sister in trouble.

I think the drug dealer gave the strongest character witness for Talitha. And that Cleo saw that, and took reassurance for her own conscience that Talitha was truthful.

So many times that Talitha couldn’t/ wouldn’t make up a fake alibi.

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Papergirl1968 Ps the actress playing Cleo had a lovely shaped head. Fabulous acting from her and whoever played Talitha. Nice to see some new faces instead of Suranne Jones and the other regulars.

Agreed. I’m afraid that I think Suranne Jones is the starey-eyed same in everything.

Yep - me an' all.

I get fed up of putting on the TV ad there she is. She isn't even a particularly versatile actress.

Both the main actresses in Showtrial were brilliant - a joy to watch.

I binged this a while back and came on here to see what everyone thought.

I watched part of the first one and thought the acting was terrible initially, but then went back and watched it again and got suckered in, so glad I did now. I thought the main cast did a great job.

I'm leaning towards Talitha being innocent. Dhillons story didn't add up - semen was found which would suggest intercourse and not oral sex and he disposed of the scarf. I think if Talitha was involved then disposing of the body and the following alibis would be more robust. Things like drinking glasses and the vodka wouldn't have been left behind. There were traces of GHB in the bloodstream too, which may have been added to the vodka, which would suggest that taking advantage Hannah was intended.

I thought seeing the trial, police, press and cps involvement was an interesting way of doing things. I would watch something similar again.

Dhillon had a teack record of harassing women, had stealth raped a fellow student as a "misunderstanding", had plenty of physical evidence of his presence, a date rape drug in her system, and was recorded wearing the murder weapon and was arrested whilst destroying the murder weapon.

Talitha had a death threat (for which the means wasn't even her - and the dealer had an alibi) and one fractional piece of physical evidence. The rest was circumstantial.

Also circumstantially, we saw her in private singing the song that she accurately reported on court.

I think that her "we fooled them" comment to Cleo was a lie to deflect that Cleo effectively distanced herself just before with her "client" comment. A kind of "OK, if I'm just a client to you, then I'll just be a guilty client that you got off".

Just finished the series, really enjoyed it!

Thought Talitha was really well played and I think the jury came to the right conclusions.

Was Brian an employee of Talithas dad? I couldn't quite work out who he was.

Just watching the 4th episode here - how did Cleo - a duty solicitor - suddenly become a barrister when the trial came round? Barristers and solicitors have entirely different roles and they don't interchange.

Is that unpleasant bearded copper (Andrew?) going to get his comeuppance for giving privileged information to Brian.

Cleo is a solicitor advocate which means that she can represent someone in court. She described herself as junior counsel, and Talitha had a barrister (Lou Corfield) too.

There was no evidence that Talitha was present for the murder. Could she have strangled Hannah and disposed of her body without leaving any trace of DNA behind?

This was one of the best dramas I have seen for ages. I think it helped that it was only 5 episodes so there was less filler and it did not drag on.

Agree loved this. Loved the fact that the actors were new and fresh and very, very good. Cleo and Talitha were excellent.
I liked the way that everything didn't have the "mean" something and there was no definitive answer. Liked the way flashbacks were used and the clever structuring of the evidence.
My view is that she didn't do it. No motive, no evidence. Dhillon was obsessed with her, his semen was in her, he'd been in the flat and drunk from the vodka bottle, he had and burnt the scarf.
Brilliant stuff.

I reckon Dhillon spiked Hannah's drink at the Ball, went back to her house later where she was still semi comatose and raped her. She started to come round and realised what was happening so he killed her.

The only bit I struggle with is how he would have got her into the bin, he was a scrawny little thing. Wouldn't have been impossible though.

He's grim and I think his mum realised what a monster he was towards the end of the trial.

I think Talithas only guilty of being previously apologetic towards his obvious creepy behaviour.

The only bit I struggle with is how he would have got her into the bin, he was a scrawny little thing. Wouldn't have been impossible though.

Lay the bin down with the lid open and push her in, then stand the bin up, not that difficult.

I may be wrong but wasn't Dhillon wearing the scarf when he and Talitha walked home? I am sure I caught a glimpse of it under his jacket so Talitha was never in possession of the scarf after Dhillon took it at the Ball.

I thought right result in the court case I don't believe Talitha was ever there, it was all Dhillon and his refusal to hear the word 'No' from a woman.

Like others I don't think the historical sexual abuse of Talitha would have been admissable as it had no bearing on the case. I didn't buy that the Jury would love Talitha and laugh at her wise cracks. I found that really jarring - a young woman had been brutally murdered, her mum was in the court. It was pretty crass of everyone to laugh.I thought the CPS Barrister was crap . He should have made a better fist out of questioning Lucinda Bright and the Tutor cover up.

I agree with the majority that Dillon did it. He likely raped Hannah but that was never posited as a possibility .

I thought it was funny seeing Kerr Logan and Sinead Keenan who played drunk as skunks siblings in the comedy series London Irish together in this. I agree it was great not to see the "usual suspect" actors in a drama. Cleo actress, Tracy Ifeachor is just so beautiful. Hope we see her in more roles.

We binged watched too. Thought it was excellent. DH is police officer and said a lot was more accurate than is usual in these dramas too.
I enjoyed the human factor as well as the whodunit element. Said to DH we can only guess as only Talitha and Dhillon really knew what happened. It was always going to be Dhillon being guilty as with all the recent deaths of women at the hands of men claiming it was a sex game gone wrong, to let him off in a drama would be highly inappropriate. There was enough evidence to convict him, especially the date rape drug and his lie that he'd had sex with her before the ball.
And yet he seemed so incapable of such aggression... so honest and truthful. I doubt it was premeditated at any rate.
Talitha was so complex and we were meant to dislike her. Cleo was amazing ( what a great actor and absolutely gorgeous!)
Absolutely fascinating and I thought the actors were all excellent. So much was said with body language and facial expressions. I think we could feel compassion for everyone but the ending was perfect. I'd love to know what really happened though

I thought we were going to get some silly twist at the end and I'm really glad we didn't.

Agree the actor playing Cleo was brilliant, mesmerising on screen, hope we see her in many more good dramas.

I know we were meant to dislike Talitha and, yes, she was annoying and irritating but even annoying and irritating people can be innocent and they also have the right to an unbiased investigation from the Police and a fair trial.

Fairly early on I believed Talitha had nothing to do with it and I was getting frustrated by the way the Police were determined to bring her down purely because Cassidy didn't like her, the contrast in the way Cassidy and the Prosecution treated Dhillon to the way they treated Talitha was stark.

Dhillon's I was performing oral sex on Hannah, while Talitha strangled her wasn't latched onto by either Cassidy or the Prosecution. Dhillon's semen was found inside Hannah, so he either performed oral sex on her after he had had sex with her and ejaculated in her, highly unlikely, or after she was dead. He was a liar and expected the connections, power and wealth of his parents to get him off as it had done in the past.

She didn't do it. But the lone we fooled everyone reminded me of the end of Presumed Innocent.

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The 'line' she said!

Loved it but I wasn't impressed by the standard of acting from the head of the CPS.
I though it was a refreshing change and an original idea to see the three teams preparing their summing up.
I agree with a previous poster who made a comment about jokes being made by defence/prosecution. I think that is appalling behaviour and anybody doing that should be reprimanded. As a Juror, it certainly wouldn't make me warm to the offending Barrister.

Blondes doesn’t binge so late to this. Last night was last episode

It annoyed me as we don’t know who killed hannah

I hate hate not knowing fir sure

I think T was innocent. There was nothing connecting to her apart the fibre of rucksack to bracelet

And lots to connect Dillon

He lied all the time

T didn’t

he’s slim but guess could Chuck hannah’s body in the bin and wheel it to water

Wish we had seen what happened rather then leave us to guess

I don't think Talitha was guilty. If she was really at the house and having a torrid sex session they couldn't have avoided finding her DNA all over the place, but they found no trace of her. Even if they didn't have sex, she would still have left fingerprints, hairs etc around.

If she'd done it, she would never have left the scarf for Dhillon to dispose of, she was too bright for that. And she would have thought up a better defence that "I just wasn't there". I think the comment at the end was simply a tease.

Agreed Platax, the scene wasn't cleaned immediately after the murder, Hannah's mother tidied and washed up but didn't do the kind of thorough clean that would have eliminated all traces of DNA and fingerprints.

If she'd done it, she would never have left the scarf for Dhillon to dispose of, she was too bright for that. Definitely.

So why did zillion try to pin on T then

Because he's an entitled little shit and expects everyone else to clear up his mess.

I think her arrogance when first arrested says a lot- she didn't think it was serious as she didn't murder Hannah. Contrast that to Dillon who clearly panics, drives off to the cottage and burns clothing. He knew his only hope was to try and pin it on Talitha.

Yes, sleepyhoglet, he knew about the texts Talitha sent to Hannah and knew he could use them and her character against her.