Page 25 | Love Island 13 - When Movie Night becomes Fight Night

FirstTimeMommy2021 · 07/08/2021 08:01

@bibliomania

Teddy could have shagged every Islander along with the camera crew and every member of the production crew twice over and still didn't deserve to be treated like that by Faye. It was abuse.

I agree, it wasn't on really! Poor man.

I remember in the season Kady was in and that new islander came in can't even remember her name but Kady spilt her drink on her then she stood up and swore at her. Showed the slightest aggression and they booted her off the show ASAP

And yet last night was the Faye show from start to end

Muggee · 07/08/2021 08:06

What an episode

My heart broke for Liberty, having one of your biggest insecurities spoken about by a partner when you're not expecting it, wow. Also seeing the side of Jake encouraging the other boys must have been a shock, she probably had started to feel she knew who he was as a person and this must have really made her think. It was sad how he couldn't bring himself to say she was beautiful when she pulled him for a chat, I hope she sees that she deserves better and she is amazing and plenty of men would realise that.

Faye should have been removed rather than facilitated to escalate like that, either temporarily or permanently. Not only was that abusive to Teddy (if was the other way around the man would have been removed for sure), but really uncomfortable and intimidating for the others who are already in a highly pressurised and claustrophobic environment. I'm not surprised none of the girls knew how to handle her or calm her down, they've only known eachother for a few weeks after all, and Faye probably doesn't know herself how to talk herself down, so they have no chance. From stuff she has said before I think she grew up in an environment where that behaviour is normal, of course she might have some sort of mental health issue, but not everyone who acts like that does. Either way I hope everyone gets the support they need, and that instead of people sending Faye hate, they send Teddy love.

From the misjudgement of the producers at how the episode would be received, I wonder if there was more to it than was shown? I mean, faye went to bed as normal, so she must have de-esculated at some point in the evening, and it did seem to be missing chunks. There's a big difference as to whether she was shouting like that relentlessly all evening, and whether it was short outbursts with periods of calm in-between. Obviously neither are acceptable, but in terms of her state of mind they are both different scenarios. I think if they had removed her at the point she said to Teddy she didn't want to talk to him, she probably would have had the chance to cool down and go back in more level headed the next day. From her saying that I don't think she snapped, but that she has her own ways of dealing with her emotions that she wasn't able to access last night.

Muggee · 07/08/2021 08:08

@CarpyDiem

Chloe was talking to Liberty - I wish we'd seen more of that, because it seemed her advice was good (and sympathetic, and she was talking in a pretty normal voice) and it looked as if Liberty was really thinking.

I'd like to see more of that - not least because it was one of the rare chats about a relationship that wasn't full of 'where your head's at' and other phrases that seem to be used to replace what might be real insight. Something that we came close to seeing in that exchange.

Yes I thought that, I think that's what this series is missing a bit. They haven't shown much of the friendships that have formed, and they haven't shown much lighthearted chat. Chris and Kem, the salmon etc, all those things made it enjoyable to watch alongside the dating side. I feel we haven't really got to know the islanders this year, and I wonder if that's a bit of a reason at least as to why it's felt serious.

vjg13 · 07/08/2021 08:09

The production team should have stepped in and removed Faye instead her behaviour was allowed to escalate. Apart from Dale, the majority of the others were like rabbits in the headlights around her and totally unable/unwilling to try to diffuse it. I agree with a PP that you could see her physically hurting someone in a different scenario.

Bluntness100 · 07/08/2021 08:32

Thinking about it and watching it back. there seemed no real anger or fury or even real emotion behind her behaviour. She was shouting and attacking but I did not actually see any emotion and, her face wasn’t all angry. She didn’t look like she wanted to cry. She didn’t seem out of control of herself. Whenever I see someone shout and abuse like that you can see the anger or upset in their faces, there was none of that with Faye. I’m

It was like she was show boating, attention seeking. Like this is her normal go to behaviour. There’s no doubt she’s abusive and a bully, but I actually think a lot of it was attention seeking.

Loudestcat14 · 07/08/2021 08:34

I'm shocked at the PP supporting Faye's banshee outburst, which was abusive and bullying, no question. It wasn't just the way she spoke to Teddy, which was appalling, but how she also screamed at Dale and Matt. If one of the men was going around the villa screaming at the girls like that security would've been called.

I have felt sympathy for Faye before now because she is obviously been damaged by previous experiences, but now I'm questioning exactly why those relationships failed. Her outburst suggests she has a crazy expectation that any man she dates must not find another woman attractive OR ELSE. As for her being fine if Teddy admitted what he said to Clarisse about sharing the bed as soon as he'd returned from Casa Amor – bollocks. I think we'd have just seen her abusive side a lot sooner.

twiggytwoo · 07/08/2021 08:37

How do people feel about Chloe and Toby for the 50k?

Toby was still doing bonkers things last night but was the first one to give Teddy a hug.

twiggytwoo · 07/08/2021 08:38

Also I was team Faye and Teddy up to last night but can't support Faye now.

Loudestcat14 · 07/08/2021 08:39

@twiggytwoo

How do people feel about Chloe and Toby for the 50k?

Toby was still doing bonkers things last night but was the first one to give Teddy a hug.

At this stage they look like the most stable couple, which is bonkers!!

Loudestcat14 · 07/08/2021 08:42

Bluntness100 Yes! Spot on! When someone's screaming like about being betrayed you'd expect them to be shaking with anger or crying but she was so clinical. She looked like she was enjoying it. I think the fact none of the girls stepped in to try to calm her down suggests this isn't the first time they've seen that side of her – perhaps there have been other incidents in the villa not related to relationships so they haven't been aired.

Muggee · 07/08/2021 08:43

@Bluntness100

Thinking about it and watching it back. there seemed no real anger or fury or even real emotion behind her behaviour. She was shouting and attacking but I did not actually see any emotion and, her face wasn’t all angry. She didn’t look like she wanted to cry. She didn’t seem out of control of herself. Whenever I see someone shout and abuse like that you can see the anger or upset in their faces, there was none of that with Faye. I’m

It was like she was show boating, attention seeking. Like this is her normal go to behaviour. There’s no doubt she’s abusive and a bully, but I actually think a lot of it was attention seeking.

I agree, and I feel that if the entire evening was shown we might all have a different perspective on it. There's a reason that the producers felt okay showing it, and I don't think they're all devoid of any sort of judgement. She also went into bed as if nothing had happened, if she actually had a mental break as some seem to be suggesting, that wouldn't be the case. Not saying there isn't necessarily something going on, and she does need support as she obviously feels this is acceptable behaviour, but I think some of the commentary is a bit of a reach.

I agree with a PP that from the start she seemed to be taking a bit of an Olivia role, now Olivia had some really shocking outbursts, but I don't remember people trying to justify her behaviour by throwing out all sorts of diagnoses, some women are like this. It's also a programme, and they have all watched it before and know it gets airtime.

NotJustACigar · 07/08/2021 08:45

I loved Toby hugging Teddy to comfort him. The opposite of toxic masculinity right there 🥰

Muggee · 07/08/2021 08:45

I also suspect she has dated people previously who give it back to an extent and aren't shy in putting up firm boundaries for her behaviour. As Teddy doesn't do this, I don't think she knows when to step down and stop. In her VT she says her ideal man is someone who would tear her a new arsehole. She also says her friends describe her as having a heart of gold, but as we say about men who have issues, it's stuff that needs addressing before a relationship, and not stuff that it's fair for someone else to have to try and fix.

MahMahMahMahCorona · 07/08/2021 08:47

@LimitIsUp * Alcohol is limited in the villa

Pissed people are often lairy and the analogy is flawed

I don't get your point?*

I really think after a pint of beer or even two, and a fairly large glass of white wine or two, coupled with the fact she was using words which didn't make sense ("alliterate" and something instead of "deflect"), having an argument whilst always clutching her glass, pretty much confirms to me that she was riled up and alcohol exacerbated her fury. They've not had beer on the show before now, and continental European beer can be rather strong compared to the U.K.

I think she might be a little hungover when we watch the show on Sunday. No excuse though. Her behaviour was outrageous and I'm glad Teddy reacted so calmly - she was clearly looking for a fight.

TheRebelle · 07/08/2021 08:48

In my opinion the was no real anger or shaking or signs of genuine upset from Faye because she 100% believed she was in the right and she just wanted to put Teddy down and show him she’s the boss, I bet she was waiting for him to beg her to sleep in the bed with her or to grovel but when that didn’t happen she just kept on shouting.

HotAndGrumpy · 07/08/2021 08:50

What's wrong here is that Teddy has received a barrage of abuse including; multiple fingers, sworn at, clothes ridiculed, called a liar, personality assassination, gaslit, blanked, screamed at and humiliated......in front of everyone.

Why does anyone think this is OK. It definitely wouldnt be if this was reversed.

I'd be worried about Teddy's MH to be honest. He is really sensitive and mild mannered.

Faye is abusive and if not removed, needs voting off ASAP.

HocusPocuss · 07/08/2021 08:50

@Bluntness100

Thinking about it and watching it back. there seemed no real anger or fury or even real emotion behind her behaviour. She was shouting and attacking but I did not actually see any emotion and, her face wasn’t all angry. She didn’t look like she wanted to cry. She didn’t seem out of control of herself. Whenever I see someone shout and abuse like that you can see the anger or upset in their faces, there was none of that with Faye. I’m

It was like she was show boating, attention seeking. Like this is her normal go to behaviour. There’s no doubt she’s abusive and a bully, but I actually think a lot of it was attention seeking.

I agree with this. I was saying to dh as we were watching it, she doesn’t actually seem bothered at all. It’s like she just wanted to shout for the sake of being heard. She didn’t really have a point and was just shouting down anyone who dared to utter a word to her. She definitely wasn’t as angry as she was trying to portray as there was no emotion behind any of it. Dh said she seems to put herself in every situation where she thinks it will get her more airtime.

CoolKitkat · 07/08/2021 08:52

I can't believe some people think her reaction was justified? Wow.

Muggee · 07/08/2021 08:54

@CoolKitkat

I can't believe some people think her reaction was justified? Wow.

Who does?

ShallWeStartTheMeeting · 07/08/2021 08:56

Teddy was putting on a brave front but he was proper crying in the confession room. It was sad to watch.
It seems the producers are picking on the nicest contestants- Liberty and Teddy.
Faye is out of control and Jake has managed to deflect questions about his behaviour thanks to her.
And Liam has been sanctified.
Last night made me surprisingly angry.

CoolKitkat · 07/08/2021 08:57

@Muggee Read further up the thread - I don't think that level of abuse is ever justified to be honest. None of the other girls (or boys) reacted in that way to the videos.

In the words of Taylor Swift - You Need to Calm Down.

EleanorOlephantisjustfine · 07/08/2021 08:57

Faye’s behaviour was an absolute disgrace. If that was a man running around the villa screaming and shouting for people to fuck off and being abusive to Teddy, the production team would have intervened. Clear domestic abuse. What a vile woman. Hopefully she’ll get voted out as soon as possible. Even the girls were losing the will with her.

Dunlin · 07/08/2021 09:02

On reflection it’s disappointing that the most respectful and healthy relationship we saw last night was between Matthew and his large bowl of popcorn.

CoolKitkat · 07/08/2021 09:06

After Caroline Flack's 'domestic incident' and the sad outcome of how that unfolded, I really would have thought that the producers would have been a bit more sensitive to such drama/abuse and how it's dealt with. A fine line has been crossed here.

Blamelesscars · 07/08/2021 09:06

@Bluntness100

Thinking about it and watching it back. there seemed no real anger or fury or even real emotion behind her behaviour. She was shouting and attacking but I did not actually see any emotion and, her face wasn’t all angry. She didn’t look like she wanted to cry. She didn’t seem out of control of herself. Whenever I see someone shout and abuse like that you can see the anger or upset in their faces, there was none of that with Faye. I’m

It was like she was show boating, attention seeking. Like this is her normal go to behaviour. There’s no doubt she’s abusive and a bully, but I actually think a lot of it was attention seeking.

I genuinely think she was enjoying it. She attacked hugo in similar manner and clearly enjoyed “putting him in his place” it’s all a power trip for her. She was angry and guilt as another poster said about the Sam video clip.

She has constantly belittled and verbally abused Teddy to his face and to others. She is toxic and abusive. That whole thing was fun for her putting the big man in his place and making him feel small. She wanted to break him