Call the Midwife...or the Turners?

[Maireas]

I noticed that the last thread was full, so I hope no-one minds that I've started a new one!

I was fully expecting it to be revealed that Miss Higgins was actually saying to the Indian women “my polar bear is under the wardrobe” or similar.

I was about to say the same. Miss Higgins could have explained Partition as well.

That was in response to @NoIdontwanttoseeyourknob - although the polar bear point was funny!

The one thing that annoyed me (apart from the centimetres!) was that Vi asked the nun to 'fill out a form' which I thought was a recently adopted Americanism. I shouted Fill IN at the TV.

Probaly stating the obvious but I think some of the clunky scenes and 'strangeness" of editing is due to trying to film in a covid safe way.

The Turners do get on my wick though. No one can maintain that amount of marital harmony. I think Mrs Turner will have a melt down and call Dr T a rude name, her hair may possibly become disheveled and she will run off with Cyril, leaving Dr T to be a single father.

Didn’t Sister Julienne take to the phones in one of the early series to find an unmarried mother a job? Was it the ex-prisoner? But now she’s had a total personality transplant.

@Maireas

That was in response to *@NoIdontwanttoseeyourknob* - although the polar bear point was funny!

I am amusing myself each week by rewriting the plots to remove the Turners. Yes, Miss Higgins should have been the one to discuss Partition with Young Nun. And given the memories Mrs Gupta disclosed having a man at the birth was surely inappropriate.

Trixie has to get herself into some legal bother

I think someone who read her letter or heard her on the radio will report her for having witnessed abortions (the back street, botched horrors she mentioned) and report her to the Police for not having reported the abortions herself, iyswim.

Plod will come calling and put the frighteners on them all. Dr Turner will make a long face.

Trixie will refuse to name her patients, or implicate any colleagues, and will of course need a good lawyer.

Sister Julienne will remember Mr Aylward's 'kind offer', and he will use an arcane court procedure to stall for time and Trixie will be saved by the passage of the Act through parliament.

Maybe.

@SpindleWhorl Wow! I think that is absolutely what will happen.

@SpindleWhorl - that's brilliant!
Sadly, I feel a Dr Turner lecture will be involved at some point.
"Let me explain how a Bill passes through parliament.."

@Rockbird

Just seen this on Twitter re the centimetres.

Thanks for that, had also wondered.

The modernist moralising on historical events is increasingly annoying. Only a few series back there were children being shipped overseas, but with a clear implication they might subsequently be abused in orphanages and not have the promised fresh start, but even then judgement was more reserved. I would have thought Nancy's baby would have been removed and adopted at birth through the church, like the teen mum's last week, not kept in the orphanage for her to visit.

Nancy said 'a couple of the nuns who were on my side ...' had arranged the London orphanage'. Which seems terribly far-fetched, given what we know about Catholic nuns in Ireland circa ?1946.

Sadly, I feel a Dr Turner lecture will be involved at some point. "Let me explain how a Bill passes through parliament.."

@SpindleWhorl

Sadly, I feel a Dr Turner lecture will be involved at some point. "Let me explain how a Bill passes through parliament.."

They’ve already got that wrong - there was some muttering about “the Lords” deciding, which makes me think someone has googled “Abortion Act” and seen a lot of references to Lord Steel. He was an MP when he introduced the Bill, through the Private Members’ Bill procedure. Yes, it would have had to go to the Lords as part of the process, but that struck me as a misunderstanding.

We should start a petition to get rid of the ghastly Turners. It’s getting ridiculous now.

We had the subtitles on and the first time they talked about the Abortion Reform Act the subtitles said "the John Peel Abortion Reform" which made me go Luckily then it went back to David Steel.

This is an interesting snippet of the history of the reforms. I wonder if Trixie, supported by Handsome Widower, will open an abortion clinic?

obgyn.onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/pdf/10.1111/1471-0528.14919

@FricasseeTurnips

We had the subtitles on and the first time they talked about the Abortion Reform Act the subtitles said "the John Peel Abortion Reform" which made me go Luckily then it went back to David Steel.

I’ve become slightly obssessed! While Steel’s role was important and admirable, it would have been nice if the episode could also have referenced the work of Vera Houghton and the Abortion Law Reform Association - but perhaps that was too woman-centric.

Sadly, I feel a Dr Turner lecture will be involved at some point. "Let me explain how a Bill passes through parliament.."

I can easily explain how shoite passes through one of his orifices that it shouldn’t be...

@scrappydappydoo

I’m so tired of having everything explained in mini lectures. Give the viewers some credit to work things out for themselves or at least make it more part of the natural conversation. I don’t think it was too out of character for sister J - I think the whole programme has drifted so far from the original books and keeps putting in 21st century views in that on the odd occasion when they revert back to actual 1960’s opinions it completely jars.

I so agree. It is all so patronising, and the dialogue stilted and unnatural. It feels like propaganda rather than drama. It was much better in earlier series, where dialogue flowed and it was moving and believable rather than ridiculous . Their researchers are hopeless too. Centimetres !! The costumes are often years later than the time.

@SheldonesqueTheBstard

Sadly, I feel a Dr Turner lecture will be involved at some point. "Let me explain how a Bill passes through parliament.."

I can easily explain how shoite passes through one of his orifices that it shouldn’t be...

naughty!

@EBearhug

Yeah, but even if it was in textbooks - I'm pretty much bilingual in metric and imperial, because whatever we were taught at school (metric), my parents and other adults around (except maths and science teachers) all thought in inches, and this was at least 20 years after current CTM. So while the midwives might have been learning centimetres, most of the mothers would all have been going, "what's that in proper measurements?" ... or possibly just ignoring such details anyway.

I'm the same re metric and imperial - metric at school, imperial all the way at home, and to be honest nobody ever actually told me at the time that there were two entirely different measurement systems and so I was embarrassingly old (12!) before I realised that they were entirely separate, when I mixed them up in a Maths homework and my Maths teacher queried it.

I explained it to her as best I could, going from confident to the crushing realisation that they were entirely different, and tailed off. To her credit she didn't shame me, she just said very kindly, "Oh I see what you did there" (my face must have been burning and she could obviously tell what had happened, perhaps I wasn't the first). I never made the same mistake again as I'd "got it" then!

I haven't been overly impressed with this series. It lacks something somehow, can't quite put my finger on it.

the social distancing is daft. why could they not do what other shows do, even the sewing one has overcome this.

@Youlookyoung

Wasn’t Angela that lovely Irish girls baby? Or am I wrong there

No. No one knows who the mother of Angela is. It’s a private adoption