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The youngest mums and dads itv1

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linniewith2 · 01/11/2004 21:56

just watching this now its very compelling watching so if you are sat at the pc go and catch the last half hour !!!!!!

NOW

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Angeliz · 02/11/2004 10:02

Just read the other thread about spongers about this family!!!

Mum puffed on a ciggie before passing it to her 14 year old!!!!!!!!!!!!!
NICE!!!

woodpops · 02/11/2004 10:15

Yeah and that family with the 2 sisters that both had babies are sponging 30 grand a year off of us. If you're going to have kids don't mump off of us. Sorry if I'm upsetting anyone by saying that but we struggle to put our kids in nursery pay bills etc. But we do it ourselves with absolutly no benefits. IMO I can hold my head up. But 1 mum at a group I go to has 4 kids doesn't work her dh doesn't work and they are thinking of having another because their benefits would go up. Something very wrong there

nikkim · 02/11/2004 14:22

The two girls from Blackpool are on the front page of our gazette today saying that they are afraid to leave there house which has been vandalised after press coverage . I think it can be easy to forget when talking about groups such as teenage mums that there are individuals , in this case children ( both the mothers and babies)involved with real lives and real feelings.

While I don't agree with the lifestyle they have chosen, i ranted at the telly last night these girls are only doing what the state allows them to do and are a victims of poor parenting themselves. I would imagine life is hard enough for them without being demonised in the press as well.

bundle · 02/11/2004 14:30

agree with the comments re: programmes like this making you feel like a fascist - i mean, having sex is not the same as having a baby...doh you can do one without the other. the smoking appalled me too

nikkim · 02/11/2004 15:34

I was also applaed by the smoking i would never have smoked in front of my parents at that age, infact didn't smoke anywhere. But to have the nerve to smoke in the front room in front of my parents while also nine months pregnat !!!!!!!!

nikkim · 02/11/2004 15:37

I also found the fact that these girls were having casual sex at such a young age quite disturbing maybe I am prudish and out of touch with reality.

These girls needed a good confidence and self worth boost, maybe then they wouldn't share there bodies with such little thought and perhaps see there future as something more than a baby machine living on benefits.

msann · 02/11/2004 15:40

all i can add - i 'oh my lord!'.....speechless....but look @ who they had for examples to follow..... gud job we're not ALL like that!

nutcracker · 02/11/2004 15:44

Didn't watch this programme , but have to say as the mom of 2 girls it worries the life out of me.

How would you stop them having sex ?? Afterall you csn't be with them all the time.

Think i will have to force feed mine the pill

msann · 02/11/2004 15:46

stop them having sex?.....i gonna sneak round after them....hide behind bushes....camouflage...anything just so they dont end up like that!

nikkim · 02/11/2004 16:02

I am going to feed my dd with lots of pizza and chocolate so she becomes fat and spotty, hide her toothbrush so she has bad breath, shave her head and make her lots of dodgy clothes so no one wants to have sex with her!!

pixel · 02/11/2004 17:35

I've already started my subtle but cunning plan to get my dd interested in ponies so that she will be like me and not even look at boys until she's 20!

hmb · 02/11/2004 17:42

It would seem to me that one of the best ways to make sure that your child doesn't befome a teenage parent is to make sure that they have other things in their life to stimulate and fullfull them, giving them a sense of self confidence and self worth would be a good start.

Some young women are ready to have children at a young age. There are mothers on MN who are proof of this. Sadly far more of the young mothers are not mothers through a real positive choice but rather that they feel a baby will give meaning to an otherwise unfulfilling life. The 15 year old last night who said having a baby would be more interesting than watching daytime TV. What? Shouldn't she have been in school for starters?

The key is to do what scandinavian countries do, give the kids a chance to be other things and make them want that, not a baby.

Tortington · 02/11/2004 18:43

very nicely put hmb.

for what its worth i dont believe the figure of 30k. i didn't watch the prog, and dont know if any disability benefits are included or not - that may change things i dont know.

i have a single parent friend with 5 kids, 2 disabled. she gets in benefits my equivalent wage which is not anywhere near 30k. and we counted everything free council tax rent the lot

i think hope is the key here. if your joy of life at that young age hinges on a baby i feel very very sad for you, you are missing so much. and as a parent if you dont do something to enhance your childs teenage years, to give them hope and courage and push them off the branch to explore different cultures around the world, different lifestyles, different situations then i think you are remiss in a key area of your parenting

i would very much like my children to want to go to clubs and get drunk and have great sex, to go to university and get drunk and have great sex, to experience life out of this country, get drunk and have sex.

i want them to have memories of a good life before they make the decision to have children

one of the ways i will try whilst they are under my roof is contraception. my girl is going on the pill, or implants or whatever i decide at the time.

that damned male pill is taking its time, if its on the market when my youngest son hits puberty he will be popping that pill or having that patch/implant too.

my children know we have plans when they leave home. of course i will be there for them - at the end of a phone - but i have a life too and i intend to live it - and that means there aint ever going to be grandchildren stopping at my house.

Tortington · 02/11/2004 18:43

very nicely put hmb.

for what its worth i dont believe the figure of 30k. i didn't watch the prog, and dont know if any disability benefits are included or not - that may change things i dont know.

i have a single parent friend with 5 kids, 2 disabled. she gets in benefits my equivalent wage which is not anywhere near 30k. and we counted everything free council tax rent the lot

i think hope is the key here. if your joy of life at that young age hinges on a baby i feel very very sad for you, you are missing so much. and as a parent if you dont do something to enhance your childs teenage years, to give them hope and courage and push them off the branch to explore different cultures around the world, different lifestyles, different situations then i think you are remiss in a key area of your parenting

i would very much like my children to want to go to clubs and get drunk and have great sex, to go to university and get drunk and have great sex, to experience life out of this country, get drunk and have sex.

i want them to have memories of a good life before they make the decision to have children

one of the ways i will try whilst they are under my roof is contraception. my girl is going on the pill, or implants or whatever i decide at the time.

that damned male pill is taking its time, if its on the market when my youngest son hits puberty he will be popping that pill or having that patch/implant too.

my children know we have plans when they leave home. of course i will be there for them - at the end of a phone - but i have a life too and i intend to live it - and that means there aint ever going to be grandchildren stopping at my house.

Tortington · 02/11/2004 18:43

oops

mieow · 02/11/2004 21:04

Custardo, yes actually thinking about it, I have three kids, two that are disabled, and we are Income support. Our income is about £24,000 (thats including housing benifit and council tax benifit) and about £6000 of that is the kids DLA. So yeah, maybe figure of £30,000 is wrong.

nikkim · 03/11/2004 16:21

Don't want to fan the flames but don't forget that people on benefits are not paying income tax. So you have to add the tax they would pay to their earnings to get a before tax salary if that makes sense.

nikkim · 03/11/2004 16:31

I think I found life financially easier as a single mum living on benefits in a rented house than as part of a couple as I now have to pay for everything including a £600 pound mortgage and £125 a month council tax.

I think when I lived on benefits I had about £375 pound a week ( including disability)coming in £110 went on rent and £30 on council tax. That is about £20,000 a year but you need to add on to that the £90 a month I saved on council tax which is another grand a year. If I was to compare this to a take home salary I would also need to add on tax, not good at figures but this would probably be about £25,000 a year, I would struggle to earn that as a teacher up here.

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