Page 26 | Line of Duty thread 4 (No spoilers, please!)

TedisnotH · 2021-04-11T19:44:32+00:00

Ok, I've started a new one in anticipation of Thread 3 filling up tonight, part way through the episode!

IstandwithJackieWeaver · 12/04/2021 10:44

@puginamug - Steph told Steve that John's life insurance paid out. We've assumed that was a lie, but maybe it wasn't? As you say, £50k wouldn't go far, especially not if you've a mortgage to cover and are only working part-time as a hairdresser, even as a shareholder of the business.

Bloodypunkrockers · 12/04/2021 10:45

Really just marking place but enjoying all the theories

GuyFawkesDay · 12/04/2021 10:50

My theory:

That flat of "Jo's" isn't hers. OCG 'safehouse'. Linked to OCG via Danny Waldron (same house he was brought up in therefore links to the care home paedophile ring). Hence all the bolts. And why Ryan knows it, and the dodgy MSN laptop is there.

The photo I'm not sure is AMM but is Jo and her mother. Could her mother be Anne-Marie's sister, so her and Corbett are cousins?

Chloe is dodgy. Why did Lakewell call her Chloe on that interview and not DC Bishop? Hmm. He knows her first name. How?

Still think Kate is undercover like S1 but for another unit (maybe Carmichael?) But will come good for AC12 in the end.

Osborne is H.

AgentCooper · 12/04/2021 10:50

@MysteriousAffairAtStyles I know, she was an absolute legend. No way she’s going to stay under the radar in Shithole-on-Sea when there’s mischief to be had. It would actually be amazing if she redeemed herself and saved Ted from the chop. Somehow.

IstandwithJackieWeaver · 12/04/2021 10:52

@GuyFawkesDay - I'm thinking Osborne is H too.

Chloe was introduced as Chloe Bishop in the interview room, which is how Jimmy knew her name.

AgentCooper · 12/04/2021 10:52

@GuyFawkesDay

My theory:

That flat of "Jo's" isn't hers. OCG 'safehouse'. Linked to OCG via Danny Waldron (same house he was brought up in therefore links to the care home paedophile ring). Hence all the bolts. And why Ryan knows it, and the dodgy MSN laptop is there.

The photo I'm not sure is AMM but is Jo and her mother. Could her mother be Anne-Marie's sister, so her and Corbett are cousins?

Chloe is dodgy. Why did Lakewell call her Chloe on that interview and not DC Bishop? Hmm. He knows her first name. How?

Still think Kate is undercover like S1 but for another unit (maybe Carmichael?) But will come good for AC12 in the end.

Osborne is H.

@GuyFawkesDay agree re Jo’s flat. It looks like a corporate let. My old flat was one of those before I bought it and when I went to view it it looked like that - really nice but very impersonal and hotel-y.

OhWhyNot · 12/04/2021 10:53

Ok not so sure about Steph

She was a very convincing liar in the last series

I think Steph may also being involved with another member of the team. Lord I hope for her sake it wasn’t bumbling Buckles - we do know he likes his sports ⚽️ 🏌️‍♂️

I don’t think Buckles would fit in her tiny bed

ChristinaYang10 · 12/04/2021 10:54

Is it going to circle back to the shooting right at the beginning in series 1 - maybe shooting that guy wasn’t an accident but was made to look like one. Maybe he was someone people wanted dead. And the cover up is that they went along with the story that basically they are racist and shot him because he was Asian, and that stopped people looking into it further. And Jimmy lakewell knew about it.

IstandwithJackieWeaver · 12/04/2021 11:03

Steve was the officer in charge when that happened. It would make sense that the "wrong" guy was shot because the OCG wanted him gone and that there was something bigger going on in the background than anyone thought at the time. The fact Steve refused to go along with the cover up proves his incorruptibility.

EsmaCannonball · 12/04/2021 11:03

Buckells seems guilty of inappropriate sexual contact with female offenders (possibly female crime victims as well) but isn't it just possible that he was complicit in Lakewell's murder purely because he's being intimidated by the OCG insiders in the prison?

IstandwithJackieWeaver · 12/04/2021 11:07

It's a sign of things like tax evasion, bribery and corruption when someone appears to be living beyond their means. There are several characters in LoD this could apply to, including Jo and Steph.

EsmaCannonball · 12/04/2021 11:11

@ChristinaYang10

Is it going to circle back to the shooting right at the beginning in series 1 - maybe shooting that guy wasn’t an accident but was made to look like one. Maybe he was someone people wanted dead. And the cover up is that they went along with the story that basically they are racist and shot him because he was Asian, and that stopped people looking into it further. And Jimmy lakewell knew about it.

That's a good theory, and why bring back the Owen Teale character if not to revisit that story? I always thought it was a bit unbelievable that they hadn't scoped out the correct flat on such a crucial operation, and that the whole thing went so horribly wrong on a missing door-nail. However, when you read the full details of the Jean Charles de Menezes case, you realise how catastrophic and unbelievable the decision-making was there: and look where Cressida Dick has ended up.

Iamuser1976 · 12/04/2021 11:12

@ChristinaYang10 I agree and think this all goes back to series 1. I think Osbourne must be H/the 4th man... so many reasons:

He is now the PCC - numerous references to corruption going right to the top
It is his decision to close down AC12. I don't see how anything could conclude satisfactorily unless that decision is undone, which could only happen by getting Osborne out of office. Think things will end either with a final showdown with him and AC12 standing strong or Ac12 being disbanded bit working separately in season 7 to end reunited again with Osbourne unmasked.
Numerous snippets of Gail vella interviewing him and the Jimmy Lakewell conversation with Vella was about the death of karim Ali in season 1.
I read an interview with Jed Mercurio where he said that Lod Was written with an overall arc and conclusion in mind but obviously when he started he didn't know how many series it would run for. It makes sense to me then that series 1 would introduce the characters critical to the final showdown: ie osbourne, and it would be a nice conclusion for Steve to finally face his nemesis in a final showdown!
We know osbourne is corrupt

I don't see how the 4th man could be anyone else! Although last series I was absolutely convinced Kate was H and was woefully wrong...

IstandwithJackieWeaver · 12/04/2021 11:14

@EsmaCannonball - we thought he was deliberately involved in Lakewell's murder to intimidate him into keeping schtum. Perhaps Buckells is a lazy yes man who has been doing what he's been told by someone senior to him in the police? He appears to have been promoted beyond his abilities so why? The answer is because he's not bright enough to question why he's been asked to do certain things and in return he's benefitted by being promoted. He appears to fit the old "boys' club" mould of an old-fashioned police officer, a golf playing bloke with little respect for women.

MysteriousAffairAtStyles · 12/04/2021 11:14

That's a good theory, and why bring back the Owen Teale character if not to revisit that story? I always thought it was a bit unbelievable that they hadn't scoped out the correct flat on such a crucial operation, and that the whole thing went so horribly wrong on a missing door-nail.

Careful! Gail Vella thought it was unbelievable too, and look what happened to her!

Iamuser1976 · 12/04/2021 11:15

Oh also, if anyone has seen the Lod Easter egg hunt, one of the clues is a letter from Osbourne to Wise complaining about AC12 and another is a Google maps link to Birmingham where the first series is set - it is all pointing to a link back to series 1!

AwkwardArnottDentonFumble · 12/04/2021 11:16

@Ellmau

*aneJeffer

Lakewell obviously gave Steve info in the van
when did he get the time to do that?

In the time between their discussion about how nobody would know where the info came from and the hijack, there was quite a bit of time while Chloe noticed the vehicles etc.*

At the end when the camera went up high.

Ooh good point - they really took their time over that, I actually ended up looking at the time wondering if it was the end of the episode!

Was Chloe still sitting outside the van crying at that point? Could she have heard?

IstandwithJackieWeaver · 12/04/2021 11:17

Osborne is not the PCC: that's Sindhwahi. Osborne is the Chief Constable and was head of the firearms unit in S1.

Iamuser1976 · 12/04/2021 11:21

@IstandwithJackieWeaver got my acronyms mixed. He is Wise's boss anyhow

CheekyWeeShite · 12/04/2021 11:23

I can believe adrenaline overcoming pain, but I can't believe the accuracy over that distance with a pistol.

Especially as the first person be shot was that police woman in the finale of season 5 😂

AwkwardArnottDentonFumble · 12/04/2021 11:26

@Netaporter

Buckell’s phone record had DCI gates as one of his last dialled numbers. Just sayin’.

Ooh. Although I suppose that fits given they were involved with the same investigations at the time

I’m really enjoying catching up on the thread today

SchadenfreudePersonified · 12/04/2021 11:26

@TedisnotH

Being a Rat is now a cause of death.

It'll be in the coroner's report and everything.

This is the most exciting episode ever!

Ryan is pure evil!

SchadenfreudePersonified · 12/04/2021 11:27

@OhWhyNot

So Jo is Psychopath Ryan’s mum

That was my first thought!

diddl · 12/04/2021 11:27

Just because Chloe doesn't have Gates as a surname doesn't mean that she couldn't be Tony's daughter.

She could be married, be using her mum's maiden name or just have changed it!

diddl · 12/04/2021 11:28

Forgot to add-whether or not her age would be right is another matter!