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BLOODLANDS BBC 1 sun 21 Feb - 9pm no spoilers - at weekly tv pace

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Blondeshavemorefun · 21/02/2021 11:29

James nesbitt pays a detective hunting an evasive killer who he believes Murdered his wife

Who has been missing over 20yrs ago and presumed dead but no body ever found

New case haunts him when a new abduction happens

4 part series

OP posts:
Blondeshavemorefun · 01/03/2021 13:17

@Dugee blond doc was talking /flirting with Tom hence he wasn’t aware of daughter behind him being easily kidnapped

OP posts:
Dugee · 01/03/2021 13:21

[quote Blondeshavemorefun]@Dugee blond doc was talking /flirting with Tom hence he wasn’t aware of daughter behind him being easily kidnapped[/quote]
Yes I understand that but I don't know if it was a set up. Do you think that means Tory is allies with Keenan?

Or is she flirting with him for some other reason (to gain more knowledge of her father's death?) and the kidnapping just happened to occur at the same time (as Tom had threatened Keenan's family earlier).

Blondeshavemorefun · 01/03/2021 13:22

Oh gotcha

Don’t know. Lol

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stumbledin · 01/03/2021 13:28

I didn't expect what happened at the end, and have been surprised about the comments about Nesbitt's acting. Compared to his likely lad parts when he is just gross I prefer him as the dour suffering husband. Although maybe he hasn't really been suffering at all.

So is his intrest in the case, not that he suspects a cover up, but that if it is investigated his part in his wife's disappearance might come to light?

Or was it only on seeing the necklace that his suspicion about his wife having an affair was confirmed?

The doctor looked distressed about confirmation that the third body was the priest is because it seems he was her father(?). Based on conversation she had with her mother in the care home.

But .... still find it grating because those who have had relatives disappeared must find this really upsetting. And I didn't know that once someone is found that although relatives are informed and so on, it doesn't become a criminal case. Given that this is part of the UK its a bit shameful not to know about this. Wouldn't you want the person responsible for killing someone close to you bought to trial?

Sad
FreezerBird · 01/03/2021 13:48

There was an interesting thing on radio 4 last year some time about the children of Catholic priests. It varies I think, but everything is kept very secret and there's not necessarily a scandal as the church is so good at hushing it up.

It's estimated that there are around 10 000 children of priests worldwide, and it was only last year that the churches guidance changed and men in this situation are advised to leave the priesthood and look after their children.

Cocolapew · 01/03/2021 14:34

I have a cousin whose dad is a Catholic Priest. My Aunt lived in Ireland at the time and the Priest was quite a bit younger than her.
He got moved to another parish.

SoupDragon · 01/03/2021 14:37

Wouldn't you want the person responsible for killing someone close to you bought to trial?

Isn't it something to do with the peace treaty?

Cocolapew · 01/03/2021 14:42

If it was a crime before the GFA they won't prosecute. If it's to do with The Disappeared it is out of the polices hands.

Whatwaswrongwiththatusername · 01/03/2021 14:48

Like another pp above, I also wondered why he didn't react when he saw the owl necklace. I'm thinking that the daughter's necklace might become more key - maybe one of Tom's colleagues sees it on her and makes the connection? Or will Tom try and get it back now? Maybe he's ever so slightly regretting giving it to her now! His lack of surprise, and not saying anything about it, to me, shows that he's definitely involved in some way. Anyone else in his situation, thinking that's their wife's body would be extremely upset and would've told them about the necklace.

Cocolapew · 01/03/2021 14:54

Maybe he knows his wife is alive, she could have left with his knowledge.
I had a dream last night that I was in the Intelligence Service after watching it Hmm

OliviaBensonsEyebrow · 01/03/2021 16:48

@SoupDragon

Wouldn't you want the person responsible for killing someone close to you bought to trial?

Isn't it something to do with the peace treaty?

Yes Dinger mentioned that last night. He kept referring to them as Time Team and Time Bandits. There is an official acronym but basically anything that is ore GFA goes to Time Team / Time Bandits, rather than the police.
SoupDragon · 01/03/2021 16:55

I'm actually embarrassed that I know so little about it.

OliviaBensonsEyebrow · 01/03/2021 17:00

@SoupDragon

I'm actually embarrassed that I know so little about it.
I didn't know until yesterday. Although I know about the GFA, I didn't know the detail.
SoupDragon · 01/03/2021 17:03

Yes, I knew about it before this and had a vague idea that there was some kind of immunity from prosecution but other than that I know very little.

stumbledin · 01/03/2021 17:45

I think this is one of those issues that the main stream news should feel obliged to report on once a year. I not sure even at the time I understood everything and trying to recall detail virtually impossible. I see that James Nesbitt has been involved in speaking up for the families of the disappeared www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/northern-ireland/dads-death-brought-home-disappeared-families-pain-says-james-nesbitt-39489592.html

But having said that about the main stream media there is no doubt that it wasn't that they couldn't report facts but they chose not to. Or, given the extraordinary article by Roy Greenslade only yesterday were prepared to just see news reporting as a job with no need to be honest. NB this link has very disturbing picture www.thetimes.co.uk/article/roy-greenslade-i-cheered-on-the-ira-from-fleet-street-you-just-didnt-read-all-about-it-vc3zbl6n9

I know its just a tv programme but sometimes this is the only place where things are talked about. Sad

OliviaBensonsEyebrow · 01/03/2021 18:46

@stumbledin

You may want to read up on Roy Greenslade and his opinions. However, I don't think this is the thread for discussing that, as it isn't in politics and understandably, given events are so recent, it's a divisive topic.

Dugee · 01/03/2021 19:03

I think it depends on what you mean by mainstream media, the tabloids in this country are nationalist and although they do cover NI politics they cover it from that angle. The broadsheets are better but the Guardian will tend towards a different opinion than the Telegraph. There is a valid argument that I've seen Irish posters make, which is the Brits (in general) aren't that knowledgable about Irish / NI politics. I think some of this is due to the media blackout we had on the IRA in the 80s and 90s. However I've seen threads get nasty, so I would agree, that whilst it's great that Bloodlands is encouraging posters to research Irish / NI politics and the nature of the programme will invariably mean that the context is discussed, it should be mostly about the TV programme, not controversial figures like RoyGreenslade.

Dugee · 01/03/2021 19:16

@DuncinToffee

That article is a great find, I'm going to reread it now, in case I missed anything.

Dugee · 01/03/2021 19:17

@Cocolapew

I have a cousin whose dad is a Catholic Priest. My Aunt lived in Ireland at the time and the Priest was quite a bit younger than her. He got moved to another parish.
That's interesting, did the priest ever acknowledge your cousin? If you don't mind me asking.
Cocolapew · 01/03/2021 20:21

I'm not sure tbh, it would have been nearly 30 years ago. My Aunt was very open about it but she did leave and come back to NI when my cousin was a baby. I would presume it didn't go down too well in the village she lived in.

stumbledin · 01/03/2021 20:38

Oliva

My post was about the impact th tv series has had on me. Surely that is legitimate to comment.

Sometimes tv shows do cover really difficult issues such as sexual violence.

Are you saying only comment in one sort of way eg I enjoyed, I didn't like x or y - pretend it hadn't made me think?

That's very repressive.

BenoneBeauty · 01/03/2021 20:54

Agree with those saying to keep politics off this thread as it is sadly so divisive still and so it will be nice to be able to discuss the show without it turning nasty!

How do people know that Susan Lynch is in it? I've watched both episodes and not spotted her?!

BenoneBeauty · 01/03/2021 20:56

I think it's to discuss the show @stumbledin, not to deliberately repress you. Please feel free to start another thread about the politics of it if you'd like to and then those who want to discuss the politics in more detail will be happy to join in that discussion.

Dugee · 01/03/2021 20:57

@JaneJeffer

I think Keenan might be a red herring and it was his wife who chained him to the radiator and fucked off and left him. But then there was a calling card so I don't know.
I've had a quiet day working from home so plenty of time to ponder. I think Keenan might also be a red herring, or at least an unwitting part of what my theory is now. Particularly after reading the article @DuncinToffee linked to.

My theory is now that Adam Corry was an ill old man and perhaps realised he didn't have long left. We know that he used a fake name to phone the local fisherman 4 months ago, to find out more about the island the bodies were found on. I'm wondering if he got together with the relatives of the other victims to try and stir things up to get the police looking again and hopefully get some closure before he died. This would also explain Tory taking an interest in Izzy (to get close to another family member of a "potential" victim, particularly someone who is close to the police investigation) as well as Tory's recent return to Belfast. Not sure how the Harkins fit into this, other than she would be the one with the connections to kidnap Keenan and plant the calling card at the scene of the crime. All of this is the reason that the police are now looking into it again. The police also found the bodies because of information Adam Corry gave them while the police were following up on the kidnapping of Keenan. So Adam's plan worked, it got the police looking into Goliath again and made them find the bodies of the 3 male victims, including his brother. I'm not sure if Adam knew who Goliath was, the bits of his diary we saw show that he had theories rather than conclusions. But I think he definitely suspected police involvement / cover up. Adam just wanted to know what had happened to his brother before he died.

I'm not sure about the Corry / Emma affair. Adam knew his brother was having an affair with a married woman but he doesn't know it was Emma, he had guessed that and he may not have guessed correctly. I wonder if the pendant is a message, a warning from Goliath to Tom. Perhaps Tom thought Adam was getting too close to the truth and had to silence him. I'm not quite sure what I think the truth about Goliath is yet though.

Somehow Twomey found out about the kidnapping plot (due to some connection to Siobhan Harkin - perhaps she's an informer or perhaps he's somehow involved in the organised crime). Twomey is against Tom looking into Goliath again but that's not to say Twomey isn't looking into it behind the scenes, he actually moved himself to keep an eye on Tom / the Goliath Investigation and that move must have been sanctioned at a high level. So perhaps Emma was Goliath and Tom collaborated or Emma found out who Goliath was and had to disappear because she would have been killed if Goliath found out she knew who Goliath was. Tom has been protecting Emma all these years and perhaps he shot Adam Corry because he thought what Adam had found out was a threat to Emma.

I'm not sure why Keenan sent a man to kill Siobhan Harkin, I find it difficult to believe that it's over a debt from 30 years ago - why has he not had her killed in the last 30 years, why now? Maybe he somehow found out she was involved in his kidnapping, or perhaps he found out she is a police informer (if she is) - so a red herring. The other Keenan red herring is possibly the kidnapping of Izzy - Tom had threatened to expose Keenan to his wife, so Keenan might have simply been trying to get him back.

Whoever Goliath was, he/ she wanted to derail the peace process. I'm wondering if Goliath was / is even one person, maybe Goliath is / was a collection of people who had a vested interest in the peace process failing. I find it interesting that the victims of Goliath were from both sides, perhaps Goliath is a name for a collection of gangsters from both sides who didn't agree with the peace process as it would damage their drugs/arms businesses. Perhaps Goliath is / was a collection of senior political figures from both sides who were against the peace process. Maybe Emma is coming back because she thinks it's time for the truth to come out (if she was involved).

Graciebobcat · 01/03/2021 21:00

Given that this is part of the UK its a bit shameful not to know about this.

Not really, I think this is quite a specific detail to know about unless you are directly involved. I know quite a bit about the NI conflict and didn't know this.