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It's a Sin, 9 pm Channel 4, 22nd Jan CONTAINS SPOILERS **titled edited by MNHQ**

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notawittyname1954 · 21/01/2021 13:13

I keep seeing trailers for this. Anyone else looking forward to it?

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Maerchentante · 29/01/2021 19:28

I just finished the last episodes and it had me in tears, especially when everyone was sitting around the table celebrating Christmas and alternating between crying and laughing.
Reminded me of the Christmas after my dad died of Cancer.

Something Valerie said about "Boys being boys" and that they would grow out of it and the dad's immediate acceptance of his son being gay made me wonder if there was more going on than meets the eye.

I would have loved to find out a bit more about Jill and her personal life, but fully understand the focus on the boys. I loved Colin and his mum, she was so accepting and supportive.

I was born in the late 70s and was a teenager in the 90's, at the time AIDS awareness was everywhere, condoms handed out at concerts and parents, teachers, TV programs and magazines telling us that Safe Sex was the only way to go.

There was a funny ad on television to encourage people to use condoms:

Funny tidbit: When the cashier shouts "Tina" they had intended to shout "Rita" which was the first name of the German minister for health at the time.

Pebbledashery · 29/01/2021 20:58

I binge watched last week but I'm still going to watch episode two tonight 😁

Jellykat · 29/01/2021 21:03

I've resisted all week, its been so hard!... so first watch of episode 2 here.
Have you all binged it, am i alone?

Pebbledashery · 29/01/2021 21:10

I had to binge as I'm impatient.. But im still enjoying watching the episode when televised.

Pebbledashery · 29/01/2021 21:11

Love Ritchies monologue

CleanQueen123 · 29/01/2021 21:11

@Maerchentante I noticed the "boys will be boys" comment and the dad's behaviour too and wondered if there was more going on than met the eye.

If this was meant to be a 8 parter and got cut down to 5, I wonder if that was a story like they would have explored?

Jellykat · 29/01/2021 21:50

Giving me goosebumps.. fuck i remember having a similar conversation with my gay housemates at the start. Lecturing them, maybe, but it was scary shit!

LunaHeather · 29/01/2021 22:27

I just watched episode 3

When Ritchie's agent tells him "many boys are going home" I thought she meant they had died.

But then she said "I'm not sure we will ever see them again' and now I wonder of she was having a spiritual moment, or if she initially meant they had left London and gone to wherever home was to be cared for. What did others think please?

RedRec · 29/01/2021 22:31

LunaHeather, I took it as meaning they had gone back to their family homes to be 'looked after' by their parents.

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notawittyname1954 · 29/01/2021 22:32

@LunaHeather I took it that they all went home to be nursed by their families before they died. They just told people they were going home probably and not that they were ill. That was heartbreaking when Gregory's parents burned everything, all his toys and baby photos and everything. Erased him completely.

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unique1986 · 29/01/2021 22:42

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Directionerforever · 29/01/2021 22:43

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allycat4 · 29/01/2021 22:45

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LunaHeather · 29/01/2021 22:46

[quote notawittyname1954]@LunaHeather I took it that they all went home to be nursed by their families before they died. They just told people they were going home probably and not that they were ill. That was heartbreaking when Gregory's parents burned everything, all his toys and baby photos and everything. Erased him completely.[/quote]
Thanks, so maybe a double meaning or deliberately left for interpretation?

I was very upset about then burning Gregory's things. At the start of the scene, I thought, is it his clothes, do they think they are contaminated in some way? But then I saw the photos and I realised.

LunaHeather · 29/01/2021 22:48

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I would love to start saying la instead of hello but I think it will seem too upsetting by the time I've finished watching!

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notawittyname1954 · 29/01/2021 22:49

@LunaHeather

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unique1986 · 29/01/2021 22:51

I was a bit surprised with the time jumps at first.
The timeline is a little hard to work out.
I would have been curious to know exactly when Ritchie first got HIV ? We know he may have been ok the first 3 years in London?
Also Gregory did he just die very quickly?
You often read how some men in the past kept working a few weeks up till their death.
But then also others being in hospital for months.
As it's a painful disease right.
Also you can have HIV for several years before symptoms in the past.
Guess that was Ritchie.
But others got diagnosed and didnt even last a few months?

Eaumyword · 29/01/2021 22:57

We've binged this, just finished episode 4. I've ugly cried through much of it.
Stand out moments were Colin's mum being so loving and supportive and when he said 'I'm sorry' and 'I'm not dirty.' Oh god, so sad. I sobbed.
I also took the conversation about going home to mean going home to die Sad
Gregory/Gloria's family just erasing him completely was tragic.
Jill's character is just lovely and I love that she bound them all together.
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LunaHeather · 29/01/2021 23:02

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LunaHeather · 29/01/2021 23:05

@unique1986

I was a bit surprised with the time jumps at first. The timeline is a little hard to work out. I would have been curious to know exactly when Ritchie first got HIV ? We know he may have been ok the first 3 years in London? Also Gregory did he just die very quickly? You often read how some men in the past kept working a few weeks up till their death. But then also others being in hospital for months. As it's a painful disease right. Also you can have HIV for several years before symptoms in the past. Guess that was Ritchie. But others got diagnosed and didnt even last a few months?
I don't want to go too much into this and also my memory is unreliable

I was very little but my dad worked with AIDS patients - and yes, he got flak for that.

Certainly in the early days, you could lose a patient with shocking speed while others would live longer

A lot of disease works that way, though of course I am not an expert.

Bagelsandbrie · 29/01/2021 23:18

Just finished watching it on All4. Proper ugly cried. So, so sad. The part where Jill walks into the patients room at the end and holds his hand just broke me. So sad to think so many died alone and without any compassion.

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notawittyname1954 · 29/01/2021 23:20

@LunaHeather the agent definitely knew once they went home they would never come back.

When Jill had a go at Ritchie and said his A levels wouldn't help him you could see for a fleeting moment in his expression that he was taking it seriously before he pushed it all away again

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x2boys · 29/01/2021 23:21

I remember watching a documentary a year or two ago about the early days of HIV and AIDS in New York they interviewed a man in the early 80,s who had just been diagnosed and he's still alive now so presumably he wouldn't have had effective treatment for a long time ? I guess he was just lucky .

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