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Anyone watching Bringing Up Baby part 3?

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themothership · 09/10/2007 21:17

I am debating whether I should really be sitting here watching it, feel like I'm being rather complicit...

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morningpaper · 09/10/2007 22:39

good summary lisa!

nappyaddict · 09/10/2007 22:40

morning paper you better watch it with those quotes of yours

morocco · 09/10/2007 22:41

glad i missed that, sounds horrific, must go and email huggies asap

hunkermunker · 09/10/2007 22:41

I think that it's very telling that CV's so cold towards other women's babies, yet so tender towards animals.

She scoffs a lot at the mums and their families too.

If I said she was jealous of them for having something she didn't have, that would be cruel in itself, so I won't say it.

MeltingandScreamingIcarus · 09/10/2007 22:42

I fucking hate the twins dad.

I am just watching the bit I missed which is the waking them up from their nap.

HOW THE FUCK can three adults sit there and look at those tiny questing fingers and hear those cries of distress and not pick them up.

They could at least let the twins sleep in the same cot.

Bastards.

spookykitty · 09/10/2007 22:47

If it were a 16 year old ignoring a baby's cries to party with her mates, force feeding (how disturbing was that?) and waking a baby to make it sleep longer and shoving it outside for hours on end on it's own, people would be baying for blood and calling social services.

I agree the programme is really badly made.

nappyaddict · 09/10/2007 22:48

they shoved the baby outside? i missed that bit.

Seona1973 · 09/10/2007 22:50

they have to put the baby out in the fresh air for 3 hours a day (and ignore it if it cries)

nappyaddict · 09/10/2007 22:51

what exactly is that meant to achieve?

lisad123 · 09/10/2007 22:55

fresh air makes them sleep better . awful to watch

nappyaddict · 09/10/2007 22:56

what's wrong with just taking them for a walk?

orangehead · 09/10/2007 22:57

ok fresh air makes them sleep better, so go out for a walk with yr baby or sit in the garden together. They is no point to leaving it alone in the garden except just being creul

lisad123 · 09/10/2007 23:05

ah but nappy, that would require effort of parents, to take for a walk. See my summary below

Elizabetth · 09/10/2007 23:09

Oh god, that child-minder woman is making me so angry with the way she is talking about her tiny daughter. What a complete b. Same with the idiots with the twins.

Not all of this is CV's fault. The parents are far too enthusiastic about it.

nappyaddict · 09/10/2007 23:10

ok if they don't want to go for a walk sit in the garden with the baby. don't leave it by itself crying!! ok fair enough if it's happy but if it cries surely it's common sense to go and be with the baby.

lisad123 · 09/10/2007 23:16

oh but no nappy, if baby is rying its not to be touched, its trying to control you!!!

Elizabetth · 09/10/2007 23:20

Does anybody think that this programme is biased in that they are really desperate for the Truby King method to come out on top?

They downplay all the negatives of the Truby King method and seem to ignore the benefits of the Continuum Concept, like making out that breastfeeding in public is a big deal (what nonsense) or ignoring that the parents, particularly the mothers seem to find it pretty easy.

nappyaddict · 09/10/2007 23:22

anyone would think all babies are the spawn of satan the way CV goes on.

prettybird · 09/10/2007 23:24

I thought the continuum managed the breast feeding in publci debate every well - finishing with "it's not the baby who has a prblem with feeding in public - it's you who have the problem" (or something like that).

Ds was fully breast fed, but we probably followed the Spock process if you could describe it as that.

And suprise surprise we did manage to "get our life back" or rather, "create a new life we were happy with".

We did manage to sit down and have a glass of wine in the evening - the nice thing about breastfeeding is that it leaves a hand free .

We were relaxed about ds - we did leave him to cry for a short time if we knew he was fed and changed, but he was generally a happy baby who slept well from an early age - we even had to wake him for a while when he wasn't gaining weight well enough. Maybe that's why we were relaxed and considered that "we got our life back" - but it also proves that a lot of it is down to the baby and not down to the particular routine or feeding method.

chipmonkeyPumpkinNorks · 09/10/2007 23:31

Anyone fancy staging a nurse-in outside CV's house?

orangehead · 09/10/2007 23:32

same ere prettybird, I bf my ds1(in public without any probs) and prob took mostly the dr spock approach but things all fell in2 place and did have have an unintended rountine, he also slept from 12 till 7 from 2 weeks old. I was probably lucky with the sleep aspect but do feel u can get some sort of rountine and aspects of yr life back by just going with the flow, it just takes a few weeks longer, but so what, whats the rush

chipmonkeyPumpkinNorks · 09/10/2007 23:33

Oh, yes the twins' Dad! Makes me ashamed to be Irish!

naturalblonde · 09/10/2007 23:42

Why have a baby if you just want to get your old life back? Surely having a baby should change your life like nothing else can. (Although apparently not according to CV)

IMO, I wouldn't want my old life back, I'm a mum now and my DD comes before everything else. And while I may have lost some friends because I can't socialise the way I used to, I'd rather be a good mum to my girl than go out drinking with them.

Personally, I think (to a certain extent)you need to adapt your life to work around your baby than expect a newborn to adapt to your routine.

prettybird · 09/10/2007 23:51

I think a lot of it is down to a positive attitude - if you are happy with the new routine that you "have" to wrok to - even if it is baby led - then you consider that "you have your life back", or even, that yuo now have a better life, 'cos you now have a new baby in it

Dh and I did go out for a meal when ds was still very young - and I left EBM for him. I also had a morning in town on my own, leaving dh with some EBM, when things were getting a bit tough, which I really appreciated.

But we stayed positive throughout - and ds was always showered with love and has rewarded us by being a loving, carefree booy - who still sleeps well 7 years later

MsHighwater · 09/10/2007 23:56

On the subject of breastfeeding in public. When my dd (my first baby) was less than 5 days old and I was still in hospital (emergency C section), on two occasions I was approached by midwives who did not notice I was breastfeeding.

Since I had definitely not got the hang of it by that stage, I took it as absolute confirmation that breastfeeding in public is discreet and in no way inappropriate.

I was very annoyed with Dreena Hamilton over that although otherwise quite in sympathy with the general Spock approach.