Des.. ITV David Tennant Drama...

[Elderflower14]

Who else is watching?? Hope its not too gory!!

His portrayal of Christopher Jeffries was fantastic.

Interesting contrast with Christopher Jefferies - who was falsely 'convicted' of murder by the tabloid press because he looked a bit unusual. Whereas genuine killer Nilsen couldn't have looked more nondescript.

'The Lost Honour' was a brilliant dramatisation of Jefferies' ordeal.

@Pelleas

His portrayal of Christopher Jeffries was fantastic.

Interesting contrast with Christopher Jefferies - who was falsely 'convicted' of murder by the tabloid press because he looked a bit unusual. Whereas genuine killer Nilsen couldn't have looked more nondescript.

'The Lost Honour' was a brilliant dramatisation of Jefferies' ordeal.

That was a brilliant show

Apparently Nilsen died quite a painful death in prison.
He died aged 74 and spent almost half his life in prison by the time he died.

Ten mins of the third episode to go. Unless there's something massive coming, I'm wondering what the tiny subplot about Jason May's marriage breakdown was about

Stephen Holmes, aged 14. Unthinkable

Is the documentary which followed worth watching? Or a difficult watch? Not sure about it.

I thought the documentary was good and not at all hard to watch. But I have a very high threshold for what I class as 'disturbing'

@excelledyourself

Stephen Holmes, aged 14. Unthinkable

Is the documentary which followed worth watching? Or a difficult watch? Not sure about it.

I didn't find it any more difficult than the drama. They showed bits of Nilsen's TV interview but didn't give him extended airtime.

I saw mention of John Christie upthread. There is dramatisation of his story with Tim Roth in the lead role. The transformation is incredible. Also features Samantha Morton who is brilliant. Rillington Place - it was ok Netflix quite recently.

It's set in the 1940s and the staging is so evocative of life at that time. Highly recommend.

Just to add to that recommendation that the Timothy Evans character is a bit distracting as he swaps his accent from welsh to cockney a few times. Apparently that's what he did in real life so they went wi authenticity but if you don't know before you watch you do get slightly distracted!

I saw the recent Rillington Place series, but I would highly recommend the 1971 10 Rillington Place film. Richard Attenborough and John Hurt are excellent as Christie and Evans. I much preferred it to the series.

In the middle of 3. Dh and I really enjoying it.

Was shocked to realise it was 1983. Then looked it up to see that DNA hasn't been used by police until Leicester case if 1986.

At first I thought it was set in the 70's. All the chain-smoking, not using gloves
at the scene, the journalist photographing everything, and even being there,

and the journalists all getting pictures of them shifting through the soil. I can't believe this still went on, can't believe police didn't have more power to ....partition things off and not let journalists see anything! in 1983. But it clearly did!

At first I thought it was set in the 70's. All the chain-smoking, not using gloves at the scene, the journalist photographing everything, and even being there

It was a bit 'Life on Mars' wasn't it?

@Housewife2010

I saw the recent Rillington Place series, but I would highly recommend the 1971 10 Rillington Place film. Richard Attenborough and John Hurt are excellent as Christie and Evans. I much preferred it to the series.

There's also Ludovic Kennedys book 10 Rillington Place- and it's worth reading how desperate the establishment was to hide the fact they'd hanged the wrong man (since the truth was a poor dyslexic working class guy with low IQ and learning difficulties was never going to get a fair trial. See also: Stefan Kiszko )

Formatting fail - hopefully you get the idea

This isn't normally my cup of tea, and I'm not bothered by Tennant. I watched it because I love Jason Watkins. He's such a great actor, so nuanced.
Mind you, the most disturbing thing I saw him in was a terrible sit com with John Cleese, where he played a 'comedic' man child. I hated it so much I had to stop watching.
I think Neil Tennant's (PSB) real name is David Tennant, but he changed it because he admired DT, and didn't want to muddy the waters. Or something like that.

yes - what WAS the point about Jay's failed marriage?

'I think Neil Tennant's (PSB) real name is David Tennant, but he changed it because he admired DT, and didn't want to muddy the waters. '

other way around- NT was famous decades before DT was heard of! DT's name is David McDonald, he uses Tennant as his professional name in tribute to NT

Recently watched a film with Brendan Gleeson and Diane Keaton with Jason Watkins playing a very funny role in it.
Can't for the life of me remember what it was called though.

thanks lotta I thought I hadn't got it quite right!

@MaMaLa321

yes - what WAS the point about Jay's failed marriage?

It was mentioned at the beginning but then seemed to get lost as the drama progressed. There didn't seem a lot of point in including it - it's a well-known convention in police dramas that a police career is hard on a marriage.

The marriage subplot was silly. They must have paid that woman he was living with and paid for the extra set, all for absolutely no reason. We didn't see the inside of any other officers home, or see their partner. I hope she wasn't expecting a bigger part when she signed up.

I think it was a fascinating and disturbing series and very well acted. I still can't get my head around how anyone could live with dead bodies under their floorboards and not be detected though. We had a dead mouse under our bathroom floor a few years ago and the stench was horrendous. Nobody could bear to use that bathroom until it had been found and removed and even then we had to leave the floorboards up for everything to dry out and it took a few days for the smell to disappear completely. If one small decomposing rodent can cause such a disgusting smell, what must a room with several dead humans under it smell like? It is quite mind boggling really. Mind you, if you are deranged enough to do those kind of things maybe you can live with things that the rest of us would find intolerable.
The insanity defence is interesting too. Part of me thinks that anyone who behaves like this must be mentally ill but I suppose it is possible that some people are just plain evil. The thought processes of anyone who could do even half of the terrible things he did are so far from normal that the whole thing is incomprehensible though.
And I agree that the way the guy who escaped was treated was just appalling. The lack of protection and consideration for such a key witness is mind blowing. The whole experience must have been a trauma nearly as bad as the attempted murder for him. Poor guy, no wonder his life was ruined. I think things have probably improved somewhat since then, but it is no wonder people are still reluctant to report crimes, especially those of a sexual nature, or to come forward as witnesses.