How shit is the Tudors?

[LittleBella]

On so many levels...

I haven't seen it but I've never been a fan of the period. The fashions were ridiculous so I can't take it seriously.

DH is history geek so loves watching anything historical particularly if he can poke holes in the story.

I've only seen a bit of it in passing - am out at choir and too busy mumsnetting/facebooking of an evening - but it seems very Dynasty, heaving bosoms, cheesy musak, comedy fashions

I did catch the bit where someone deflowered their wife in front of an audience, who then applauded enthusiastically. Very funny

So which eras had fashions sensible enough for you to take an interest, Spider? Presumably not the Victorians (crinolines) or Edwardians (bustles).

I thought it was very cold. Given it was such a dramatic time in English history, the programme seemed to lack emotion or drive or any sense of oomph, really. And the red head thing bothered me, too.

And I'm not sure Henry VIII really was thinking of Leviticus a. all by himself and b. even before he'd met Anne Boleyn. And he certainly wouldn't have been confused about the definition of the Gospels.

It made The Boleyn Girl look like Shakespeare - that's just from the trailers.
Jonathan Rhys Meyers is a useless actor...and wasn't Sam Neill implicated in The Borgias...

Sam Neill was doing a generic creepy character thing.

Jonathan Rhys Meyers is very drippy I think

and a v.odd choice for Henry VIII no?

I'm no prude, but I thought it was a bit much for just after the watershed...and it was giving my poor new baby in the house sex starved DH ideas.

I was disappointed we didn't see more of Sean Pertwee though (fnar); he has the sexiest voice ever!

Yeah, I can only imagine the casting director has a thing for him. Anyone less like Henry VIII as a young man, I can't imagine.

Ray Winstone was better casting FGS - at least he had the little eyes and the right jawline

daisy, you might want to keep your dh away from Californication then. Now David Duchovny letting it all hang out I can probably live with...

when's that on then Marina?......although I don't think he's ageing very well

He did look a bit crumpled in the clip I saw.

Oh, crumbs, sometime this weekend on C4 or C5. First episode

Dh was very sniffy about it being a vanity project, likely to be total rubbish etc . But if I have to sit through Strictly Come Dancing with the dcs I deserve payback.

Sean Pertwee!! Doh! I spent the entire show trying to remember the guy's name. Thanks!

I'm with the anti crowd. Total shite. I never realised just how bad an actor JRM is, despite having suffered through Match Point, and he's nowhere near intelligent enough to play Henry VIII (err, or red enough )-or even to give the impression of being a very intelligent man.
Ho hum, I guess I'll just be tuning in next week for the pretty people and nice frocks, and I think it helps watching it half pissed, you take it far less seriously then.

I noticed the weird nipples too. That's not normal, is it?

JRM looks like a serial killer in the promotional posters - as though he's auditioning for Hannibal or something.

I didn't see it, so can someone describe the strange nipples please?

Dh criticised the shields they held in the jousting scenes - apparently they are not right.

I just watched it for the sex scenes.

Very pointy nipples on a very flat chested women.

The other 'wench' had a more ample bosom, but I'm sure I detected some stretch marks.......

I agree with others, the whole thing was so bad as to be mesmerising. Will be tuning in next week though

Was Catherine of Aragon older than the King? She looked it as if she was last night?

Catherine was 6 years older than Henry. That was another criticism dh made of the production: that the actress playing Catherine was too old (or the actor playing Henry was too young). She looked old enough to be his mother!

Age-wise in RL I think the casting was not far off a six-year age-gap DG
Rhys Meyers is older than he looks and Katherine of Aragon was in the Commitments in her early 20s

Weren't they also trying to convey (didn't see it, I am a Keith Michell loyalist ) that Katherine was prematurely aged by her recurrent miscarriages and the stress of not being able to produce an heir

I am staggered that there is only 6 years between the actors, but impressed nonetheless at the accuracy of the casting in that regard.

Actually, I thought the actress playing Catherine was very good and you may be right about the stress-induced ageing.

Oh is it poo then ?? I recorded it but haven't seen it yet - I thought it would be good.....

I thought there was some interesting political history in amongst the shagging and weird nipples - we recently did a workshop on the Field of the Cloth of Gold, but hadn't quite appreciated the political ins and outs. (as it were )

thought it was pretty good, nice clothes etc blah, blah, except for crappy wierdo King. the red-head chap playing Buckingham should have been playing Henry. dunno about the sex, all a bit nasty, not enough fun (I thought that's all Henry VIII was into then) and wasn't he meant to have been a bit fat even in his youth? I guess no-one was going to turn down a bit of hanky panky with a randy king just because he ate all his pudding? i just wanted more politics and dresses, and they just kept humping. i prefer Heroes i think, and that really is dire telly.....

Why is Charles Brandon still being called 'Mr Charles Brandon' when Francis was King of France? He was the Duke of Suffolk & married to Henry's sister by then...