I hate Suzie

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Just binge watched this series On Sky today.

Billie Piper is phenomenal.

Just finished the series. Pretentious rubbish with deliberate shock value that made no sense. I feel like Billie Piper watched Sally 4 Ever and said "I want to be like that!"

The last two episodes were slightly better.
I'm glad I stuck with it but I wouldn't watch another series.

Agree, the final two were better.

I probably would watch another series - if they broaden things out and development some of the things they only touched on in this series.

Spoiler alert ..

The shoe shop assistant was funny and even I felt a tad sorry for her when she muttered ' Carter hasn't lost anything ' When she saw him with his wife at the theatre. It's typical that the women are vilified for having an affair and men tend to get away with it! ( nothing new there )

I can't decide if I like it it not but I've watched 5 episodes so I must do in a car crash tv kinda way!

I think it def is about her going through life one drama to to the next due to her issues.
Her and her husband seem to be with each other as he likes the drama and is attracted to her when she is a victim but also he seems quite controlling and she is attracted to that.

The bit where she was on the loo and in the phone to Disney and blew her contract is an example of how either thoughtless she is or self sabotaging. Why would you tell them that about the drugs!!

Either way, I will watch the rest.

@The80sweregreat

Fleabag was ' upper middle class' and this is ' lower middle class ' 😀 ( mumsnetters love a debate on class..) I'm amazed that the lovely husband would even marry a Suzie sort to be honest. Nothing in common at all and they just don't ' get ' each other. She seems too needy for him. He is too reserved. He isn't at all materialist but maybe has become too used the nicer things in life. Are uni lecturers not well paid ? ( I've no idea ?)

He seems to want to be the protector/father figure. The sensible one. He likes her being needy so when she fucks up he can swoop in like the good guy. That's my take on it

I just felt he liked to be morally and intellectually superior, which was probably easy with her as she came across as indecisive and easily led (probably because she has been 'managed' all her life by her nearest and dearest). Maybe he was one of those geek types who thought he was smarter than everyone else and loved a bit of sci-fi as a kid and he fancied her in her sci-fi days, but will revel in arguing over nothing and finding fault with things as an adult. I know a few of those types and he did come across like that.

He seemed a bit embarrassed by what she was in her career later as he didn't tell his colleagues who she was.

I must have bad judgement as a lot of people here thought he was lovely on this post and I though he was horrid, but then I have seen the whole series and others haven't, so maybe opinion will change.

They both didn't seem to concerned about the affect it all had on their son.

Facelikearustytractor your post highlights for me what I've found disappointing about this series - I can only see the characters as created artefacts, not real people. (Possibly because I'm much more aware of Lucy Prebble as a playwright.)

But, irl I can see why someone like Cob might want to keep the noise and madness of his wife's public persona well away from his academic world.

It did have a kind of other worldly feel to it and very manic at times. I was made up to see Donna from Eastenders in her drama workshop ! That bit was funny : it did get more a bit more lighthearted as it went on.
Her family was a good Indicator of how her life had evolved from being famous so young.

I think it's not quite as clever as fleabag.
It's different yes but the writing is not as good. Some of it is a bit try too hard

It was very telling when she said to her dad ( I think Phil Daniels was her dad and not a step dad , but I could be wrong) ' I paid your mortgage off'
It was all take take take with them !

Is Sally 4 Ever Good?

That and Fleabag are on my list.

I would watch another series of this too tbf

I liked Fleabag but not seen sally 4 ever.
I had heard that Bubblegum was good too but I couldn't get on with that at all.
Only lasted one episode.

I haven't heard if Bubblegum

We watched some of Two Weeks to Live last night and that was good

On e2

Not sure if like

But loved her in diary of call girl

I tried Two Weeks To Live today. Couldn't get to the end of the first episode.

It has plenty of the elements that go towards good TV - but somehow it ended up as comedy drama by numbers ...

I loved it and binged the whole thing.

Which?

The shoe shop scene is good

The shoe shop assistant was funny.

I am so glad other people hated the husband. I thought he was revolting: really smug and grown up in a self conscious way. And I thought he was physically unattractive too

Watched a few episodes with Dh. Thought it was ok. Just.

I thought the family wedding episode was really good and the writing was better than in all the others. Other than that, there were bits of it I liked.I thought it hung very heavily on Billie Piper's performance and she did carry it off. But it could have been much better - I read a lot of reviews, and didn't think it warranted the huge publicity

I tried to like it, but just didn't. Gave up with the Dexter Fletcher episode and cringed through the masturbation episode.

Her husband was awful. The way she flinched when he came near made me think there was DV in their relationship. And I thought it was dreadful when he locked her out of the house.

I will keep watching but I really don't understand the rave reviews about it.

@Facelikearustytractor

I agree with you entirely. He felt superior but the money she earned was a plus for him.

I think her character was always going to lead a problematic, destructive life as a former child star, detailing every now and then but I think she was always trying to make everyone else happy (pay her parents mortgage off, stay with cob, be at home more for her son) when really she was putting her wants and needs last. I know that's parenting but her father seeing her situation as a meal ticket and staying with cob when she didn't want to whilst feeling like he was better than her as a person and parent lead to her completely unraveling. I felt quite sad for her, she seemed as though she was stuck, trying to push all those puzzle pieces back together that didn't fit anymore because it's what was expected of her whilst knowing she couldn't and she was going to lose everything.

It was different, not like fleabag at all. Different. Yes, theatrical and over the top at times but I liked it, so much so that I binge watched it. I'd loved to see Billie Piper play Suzie on stage.