I give you clear warning, this place is goiing to go NUTS when Channel Four airs Bringing Up Baby on the 25th Sept... Claire Verity!!!

[Aitch]

seriously. i'm watching it now for work and it is terribly upsetting. Claire Verity says 'i'm a bitch, i'm mean to them but it works', no touching, no eye contact, lots of talking about 'baby', presumably because she can't be arsed remembering the name... oh it's AWFUL.

young babies can't feel pain
ffs
i've sworn more on this thread than ever before

But NAO if it's on the telly it's ok to do in RL.

There will be some poor colicy baby somewhere left to cry his heart out, alone, without any comfort because his parents heard this woman say it was the right thing to do.

Links as requested

Email Channel 4 - [email protected]

ofcom

Tori, it's not just about not hearing the baby breathe. The baby hears YOU breathing and regulates its own breathing accordingly.

Aitch How can people be so totally disconnected from babies to think like that?

Tori - i think its more about the baby hearing your breathing than you hearing theirs isnt it?

non-point, nao. she's being presented as a credible source of baby advice, when she's actually defying guidelines left, right and centre.

I was very worried about co sleeping till I tried it
Don't do it usually, just as a one off, but apparently I can pin DH down in my sleep if he tries to go to the loo in the night

The "co-sleeping baby death" statistics are usually all lumped in with the "fell asleep on sofa and suffocated baby in cushions/dropped baby on hearth statistics though Co-sleeping with a baby on a sofa or in an armchair is a huge no.

Safe co-sleeping is perfectly fine, IMO and IME.

god there are girls beingcircumcised in africa
groomed for the sex trade in russia

babies on a tv program swaddled in a pram

just try to look at the bigger picture

Well that just kills any debate then doesn't it NAO.

We all know terrible things happen all over the world, every day. That doesn't make it ok to neglect our babies.

yes there are NAO. I've yet to see any programmes purporting those practices to be A Good Thing though.

Complain in 3 ways:

Ofcom: www.ofcom.org.uk/complain/

Channel 4 online: link

Channel 4 email direct [email protected]

Plus these people have some sort of campaign going too: socialbaby.blogspot.com/

I think we should all complain at all of these and maybe they will take this awful woman off our screens or at least add some warning and official guidelines to subsequent programs so that othe first time parents don't damge their babies in this way. Except NAO of course - who is related to CV perhaps?

From the blog link psoted by Jenkeywoo:

"Claire advises feeding babies only every four hours and not feeding them during the night. Most very young babies need feeding more often than this. Previous attempts to use such regimes with newborn babies have led to terrifying cases of dehydration and failure to thrive. (Parents may find it instructive to do a bit of research into Ezzo's methods in the USA and the results that these have had.) My blood ran cold when I read that she was using these methods with premature babies. This is very dangerous indeed; I am not exaggerating when I say that these methods could kill a baby."

Oh, that's patronising in the extreme, NAO!

FFS, why are you on this thread then? Why aren't you doing missionary work somewhere?

Okay I am at the part where she is sitting downstairs with her baby screaming. God I want to go upstairs to that baby! So baby is miserable and mum is miserable, result Claire!

Aitch I'm not in favour of this CV woman, merely pointing out the information I have been given on breastfeeding and co- sleeping from my local NHS by my mw. I'm not slating co-sleeping, although as you know it wouldn't be my own preference.

Wow - my best friend was approached to appear on this programme when she was pregnant with her daughter last autumn.

She had decided she wanted a routine, but pulled out of the programme a couple of weeks before she was due.

WHAT A LUCKY ESCAPE!

I can't even bear to think of the nightmare it would have put my lovely friend and her gorgeous baby girl through.

I think that the least Channel 4 should do is state that some of CV's methods are controversial. The fact that she wears a uniform, bangs on about how long her method has been around and speaks with 'nanny-like' authority could make new parents believe that hers is the most credible method.

I've complained, to both C4 and Ofcom.
The more who di it, the better.