I give you clear warning, this place is goiing to go NUTS when Channel Four airs Bringing Up Baby on the 25th Sept... Claire Verity!!!

[Aitch]

seriously. i'm watching it now for work and it is terribly upsetting. Claire Verity says 'i'm a bitch, i'm mean to them but it works', no touching, no eye contact, lots of talking about 'baby', presumably because she can't be arsed remembering the name... oh it's AWFUL.

In the book 'Why Love Matters' it says that all babies, including newborns need to be held and cuddled in order for their brains to develop normally so they grow up to be emotionally and mentally healthy adults. That CV woman was clearly only attending to the babies physical needs (actually she wasn't even doing that as babies are hungry when they're hungry and not necessarily every 4 hours)and so I would classify her method as child abuse/neglect and she is nothing more than a criminal. I felt sick just watching her.

chubyscotsburd, maybe they should make her cuddle a baby - she'd probably disappear into a puff of smoke

Why complain about the program? because the program is presenting someone with no medical or professional qualifications giving advice that is contrary to official dept of Health guidelines on SIDS with no disclaimers or mention of the official advice for a start. Not to mention that it is showing actual examples of child abuse. Clearly irresponsible broadcasting.

If anyone had told me to ignore my screaming newborn and not to cuddle her or kiss her constantly and stick her out in the garden for hours on her own I would tell her to get the f* out my house. Sorry I would.

i complained about advice contradicting:
SIDS - sleep in same room
NSPCC - neglect
WHO & DOH - breastfeeding

peerrrleeaaase

forgot to add no matter how much C4 are paying me

I seriously had a mother like this in my first post natal group - she said 'the midwife told me never to give in to him from day1, beacuse even at days old, babies are manipulative' Dh banned me from going to the group in the end - sad faming at the mouth wasn't an attractive quality for me.....

NAO, you really think this is an OK way to treat a newborn baby?

Or any person, actually?

No eye contact, no physical contact, restricted food?

if the baby is born at 7.01am does it have to wait 3h59mins fot its first feed?
That's a serious question.

Wasn't there loads of stuff a few years bck abot how awful conditions were in Romanian orphanages because children weren't being cuddled? Just left in their cots between inadequate feeding.

I know there were an awful lot of other things wrong there, but it was always the lack of touch that I remembered. There's research to show that if you give an orphan monkey a wire mummy monkey doll with milk in the teat, and a soft cuddly mummy monkey doll, the baby monkey will drink the milk and then go back to the cuddly toy for comfort.

babies dont need to be 'independent' for goodness sake. They're not 'manipulative'.

Personally I got more 'tribal' (dh would probably say 'feral') with each child. I am now a certified lentil weaver.

So sad that those mothers were stifling their (correct) instincts and putting the words of a peroxide stranger over those instincts.

Their first night back from hospital - ruined. I hope "being on the telly" was worth it.

Also the smugness about the day old baby sleeping alot - dd slept for her first 2 weeks and I thought the whole baby thing wasnt so hard. Then she really woke up and yelled every evening for 4 months. But that was my fault surely as we verged on the Continuum concept/attachment parenting rather than a strict routine..

sorry for typos have had a glass of wine after bf, cuddle and rock to sleep

I've complained to C4. I'm fucking disgusted. I'd like ten minuted with that stupid bich. I'd punch "it's" fucking lights out.

I've read some attachment theory and if there is any risk of the experiment being real the programme should be axed. I was brought up like this in 1972. My mother took instruction from my paternal grandfather - a Truby King advocate. I DO NOT have a strong sense of self, believe me. Much helped by several years of therapy thankfully. I have never felt so strongly about any programme, ever and I am a card holding telly addict. I want to effing demonstrate outside channel 4. I'd bloody raid the BBC news room about this. I'm desperate to stop any more of this regime being inflicted on the babies.

BITCH

this is more GF hysteria

it is TV

EDITED and CUT

I nearly cried it made me so sad. These poor parents will probably look back on these early days, ignoring and neglecting their children with guilt and shame for the rest of their lives. It's so wrong, in so many ways.

My HV was the same with DD at 4 weeks old. She was "manipulative" and should be left to cry. Needless to say I left the surgery and put in a complaint about her. Saw her in the Indian the other night and she still avoids me!!
It is the most natural thing in the world to go to your baby when they cry. You are their mother, they need comfort and that is your job.

It sounds dramatic but I felt sick when watching that little newborn being left to cry. This is emotionally abusive and such people should be reprimanded as such and not be allowed to practice.

Seriously this routine approach consttute child abuse. This childs brain will not develop as it should therefore compromising their capacity to develop empathy and social understanding, pre-disposing them hugely to the development of mental health problems in later life including psycopathy.

I think this will be the first time I've ever complained about a TV programme.

I'm with Harrisey - dc3 is practically grafted to me and I am loving the bonding. I tried all the routnins with dc1 - made me ill with pnd etc etc, went with my feelings with dc2 - much better - dc3 - best yet - ntohing but instinct - why are we encouraged to ignore it?

That woman is NUTS!

In the days of Truby King didnt they also believe that babies dont feel pain? No anaesthetic used on babies in hospitals? I'm sure i remember hearing that from several sources but can't remember details. I thought things had moved on abit from then.

I found this really genuinely upsetting. The thought of a baby learning not to cry sickens me. I wanted to shout at the tv AT WHAT COST AT WHAT COST AT WHAT FUCKING COST.

Sling woman seemed lovely and looked like I felt when she was talking to CV.