I give you clear warning, this place is goiing to go NUTS when Channel Four airs Bringing Up Baby on the 25th Sept... Claire Verity!!!

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seriously. i'm watching it now for work and it is terribly upsetting. Claire Verity says 'i'm a bitch, i'm mean to them but it works', no touching, no eye contact, lots of talking about 'baby', presumably because she can't be arsed remembering the name... oh it's AWFUL.

Yes, Edam, I've read her story, I'm sure

I think if you're forced to be that out of tune with your babies, you go against instinct.

I did laugh wryly when she asked the other Clare how long her "method" had been around. Ignorant or what?!

Oh, btw - I read an article in the Times comparing each of these methods - CV had no opinion on older babies, because she doesn't deal with them, she fucks 'em up and moves on to the next cash mountain newborn.

CV was bleating about being bullied by the NCT who were saying similar things to this thread. Aw, bless.

didn't the dad say to the seven year old something like 'she is good at her job thats why she gets paid alot of money' stupid twat

Dont understand the obsession with "getting back to normal" and pretending you dont have a baby. why have one then?

Agree with morning paper why is getting them sleeping seen as the only measure of success? Just so literal and utterly missing the point.

Getting flashbacks to spending the w/e earlier this year with a friend who fed her 2 week old every 4 hours only. The tiny thing was mewling with hunger but she just looked at her watch and said "no food for 40 minutes". My dh was in tears after they left.

Thought Jerry Hall had more sense than to hire someone like that.

iwon't dignify the next one by my viewing it. It should be taken off air...

HAs there ever been a recorded case of a cat smothering a baby?

Thought it was just an urban myth although I did use a cat net on dd's pram but now I think of it I cant remember ever reading or hearing of a true account of it actually happening?

Sorry to go off subject just interested

I found cat nets didn't really stop the weight of the cat from leaning it down onto the baby.
They are also attracted to the smell of milk from a baby.
This is very worrying.

Edam- in the snow, I hope she shovelled her husbands head in for making her leave her baby in the snow.

I have to go , I fel sick at the thought of all this.

Do you think they were just acting and went and cuddled their babies as soon as the cameras stopped rolling then NotanOtter? I don't.

allbuggiedout- done!

I have two cats and they have never tried to sit on my baby. They think he's a little alien and are a bit scared of him.

Foxes though - wouldn't be so sure

Well if getting them to sleep is the only measure of success I have well and truly failed with dd. 17 months and still a full nights sleep is all but a fond memory. That is probably because I cuddled her and gave her eye contact and generally spoiled her with affection

Right - just complained to Ofcom - am so disgusted by what i have seen - outraged!

I don't think so either Tamum,

Why would you complain about the programme its self? Its putting forward all options, not just the crazy CV one. Anyone with half a brain will pick the method they want. I have to say I thought CV was going to be the same as GF, it clearly isn't. She doesn't advocate cruelty and acknowledges that babies do need attention and love/ stimulation even with routine.

who gives a cramped about cats you just don't leave a one day old baby crying outside in the cold, jesus crhist i didn't know that people could be so stupid please tell me this is not happening. If one of my neighbours would do that I would call child protection agency in a flash.

complained

NaO "( its entertainment remember mumsnetters - dont get confused with real life) "

But they are real babies. real human beings

I have complained to both organisations. I am so appalled.

Why would you complain about the program? What CV is advocating is child abuse, it really is. Would C4 be allowed to show a programme about how to be a paedophile?!!

Well. I was going to read this thread but as my breastfed-on-demand, co-sleeping, permanantly carried baby who has no concept of routine has decided to fall asleep I don't think I'll manage all 600-odd posts. If only I'd listened to Ms Verity I might be enjoying a glass of wine and reading them all while he cried his little eyes out in the garden. O woe is me.

The woman is evidently mad. Amd WHY or HOW that mum sat and wept while leaving her poor baby howling for a cuddle at a mere day or so old - she actually said "I know it's for her own good" at one point ... I hope the dad cracks and shoves their Silver Cross up the witch's arse. Sideways.

I hope Social Services will be investigating the family using her methods.

or how to neglect and starve your baby???
oh hang on, it is

i made a complaint about the show to Channel 4, but only to say that official guidelines (especially re cot death) should have been mentioned when the baby was being left for 12hrs in a different room without feeding etc, not just the 'experts' opinions given.

tori, because it is experimenting with human beings who don't have a say and CV is giving out advice which completely contravenes advice from FSIDS. Aside from the fact the woman is barking mad and has no credentials.

because her advice makes it impossible for people to bf as per the WHO recommendations and ignores the recommendation to sleep with the child until 6 months. there should have been some acknowledgement of that, and i hope there will be by next week.