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Star Trek: Picard

178 replies

DesLynamsMoustache · 23/01/2020 16:37

Is anyone else really excited about this?! Once baby is in bed, I'm binge-watching!

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bellinisurge · 11/03/2020 14:43

I subscribe to Screen Crush on YouTube which identifies what "Easter Eggs" it can. The arch thing hasn't come up either because it's a red herring or the lovable nerds at Screen Crush haven't worked it out yet.Grin

whatwouldjohnmclanedo · 11/03/2020 14:45

Do you have to pay extra to watch it?

bellinisurge · 11/03/2020 14:57

If you have Amazon Prime basic , no.
Not yet Confused

banivani · 18/03/2020 21:13

I’m catching up and wanted to say that I also love that Rios navigation hologram is Irish. Slightly dodgy accent but still!

SanFranBear · 20/03/2020 09:26

Can't believe we've got one week left... I like evil android Soji!

banivani · 20/03/2020 10:08

Evil android Soji was very Trek. However, definitely Trek that has been done to death.

I'm finding it hard to follow because they're all mumbling and I don't have subtitles.

SanFranBear · 20/03/2020 10:19

Haha banivani, you're so right.. perhaps that's why I liked her so much!

Going off the doctor although reckon she's going to redeem herself through something she does with Dr Soong (was weird seeing Brenr Spiner playing a person - much preferred him as an android!) I am loving Raffi though - she's just so fragile and yet hard as nails, really great casting there!

That said, the story is all feeling a bit rushed and slightly unbelievable for me at the mo - I know how ridiculous that sounds considering its Star Trek Grin. I expect the finale will be amazing (the pilot is still probably my favourite episode of the whole thing).

Still one of my most favourite things on the box right now though - Patrick Stewart is such a great actor and lifts the whole thing when he is on screen. Love him!

banivani · 20/03/2020 12:40

See I'm not loving Raffi. I am very shallow and I think it's the styling. Her look is a bit too juvenile which annoys me. But I genuinely don't think I'm getting a grip on her as a person, I just don't care enough. Could it be that there has been a lot of mumbling? Have they failed in giving me enough backstory on her? Even Cpn Rios has made more of an impact. Hm.

HowIrresponsible · 20/03/2020 20:56

How apt that this show is about bringing armageddon.

So the admonition was left by synths for synths to experience and know how to call for help?

winewolfhowls · 20/03/2020 22:43

Well I for one will be most miffed if there is not some bad borg shenanigans before this is done

HowIrresponsible · 21/03/2020 08:11

I'm bored of it now.

Simply because we now armageddon won't happen to the trek world. There is another series

SurpriseSparDay · 21/03/2020 08:19

I’m struggling to find anything at all to say about Ep 9. There was a lot of ‘acting’ - so I felt rather detached from what was happening. And I’m a little unclear about exactly what the Borg cube was supposed to be doing ...

HowIrresponsible · 21/03/2020 18:04

It also proved to me that synths are dangerous and the ban was quite right.

They aren't human, they don't feel or care.

The deem obliterating all organic people a proportionate response to try to kill a handful of weird synths

winewolfhowls · 21/03/2020 19:38

Yes, surely an invasion fleet would be no match for the borg cube, even if slightly damaged.

picardigan · 21/03/2020 21:50

I'm a die-hard Trek fan, especially NG, and awaited this show with baited breath. I love the title graphics and theme music but have to say I'm really disappointed with how fragmented and confusing it all is.

For me, the most exciting scenes of all 9 episodes have included Seven - when she plugged herself into the Borg Queen's command node and announced "We are Borg", I got shivers up my spine and thought, "Hell yeah, FINALLY we engage!" but then...more duplicate synths (so many with different names I can't keep track anymore) and PinkFunk Sutra is a joke.

I find Narek so miserable I want to slap him Grin but every time I see Elnor or hear his name I think of Lord of The Rings...much like everyone else, I imagine. I was happy to see Number One and Troi, but what the heck has happened to her voice??? I'm in agreement with another poster who can't take to Raffi. Its ludicrous that a figure as experienced and respected as Captain Jean-Luc Picard is referred to as JL. For god's sake stop that!

Not sure I'll continue with Season 2.

HowIrresponsible · 21/03/2020 22:59

It's the subject matter for me.

Data was my least favourite. They aren't Data's children.

I don't really care about synths or believe they should exist given the Mars attack or a plan to kill all organic life to save a handful or weirdos.

Urgh. Of all the things they could have done

picardigan · 22/03/2020 01:46

@HowIrresponsible@ You're absolutely right. They are not Data's children.

The premise of the story is that Picard discovers that biological synthetics created by Dr. Bruce Maddox based on Data's positronic brain, making Dahj and her twin sister Soji Data's daughters. That's the actual story premise. Those two are supposed to be Data's daughters and Picard has made it his mission to preserve the legacy of his old friend, Data.

Sutra seems so different from Dahj and Soji, so maybe Altan Inigo Soong (son of Data's creator Noonian Soong) made her from a template crated by Bruce Maddox. He must have made the other synths too because the one with the really weird eyes who first greeted them all on the planet sounded like she was from the North of England!!! Hmm Grin. Dr. Jurati has offered to help Soong develop an android body into which consciousness can be transferred Hmm Confused

I don't care about all the other stuff, either. I just wish they had given Picard a new upgraded version of the Enterprise and a proper new team (still allowing for character development and quirks) and tasked them with a specific mission involving new bad-ass aliens or something. But this storyline feels slow, clunky and confusing.

Floating space orchids? REALLY? Suppose Season 2 will reveal why a Borg cube has somehow become revered as 'the Artifact'.

Wondering why they've made something obvious about the fact that Picard is dying - is it so that Soji or one of the higher advanced synths can heal him in a future episode? Or is this 'mission' supposed to be his great last hurrah as it were? One final heroic attempt to save lives, be they human or synth...

Another posted mentioned that there was a lot of acting in one of the episodes. I agree. Sometimes it feels like I'm watching a rehearsal of a play, with actions and mannerisms and dialogue all OTT and even flouncy at times.

I miss TNG Sad

SurpriseSparDay · 22/03/2020 02:55

I mentioned the ‘acting’. And one of the reviews said the colourful clothes, bare midriffs and hippie vibe of Soji’s home planet recalled the original Star Trek. I can vouch for that - and I guess in that context the trippy dippy space orchids were entirely appropriate. (I hated them though.)

Yes, I’d be astonished if the resolution to this story doesn’t involve a cure for Picard.

To be honest I’m not quite sure why I’m still watching - there isn’t a single element that I’m truly enjoying, and it feels dangerously close to children’s TV, and I wish Raffi would just stop with the mannerisms ... Agnes is vaguely intriguing. Rios is pretty. I liked Hugh. Perhaps it’s because there’s enough lore and detail to make the reviews of each episode really fascinating!

SanFranBear · 22/03/2020 21:58

A friend has surmised that the reason they keep mentioning JL (sorry, couldn't resist Grin) is dying is so that if Patrick Stewart pops his clogs irl, the story can be concluded. Not sure I agree Hmm and anyway, the lovely Mr Stewart need to live forever.

ErrolTheDragon · 22/03/2020 22:27

They're mentioning Picard dying on the one hand, and on the other Soji is helping with the 'mind transference' thing which I assume is meant to give Soong 'immortality' ...

I imagine. I was happy to see Number One and Troi, but what the heck has happened to her voice?
Have you ever heard what Marina Sirtis sounds like IRL? She was on the radio recently, if they hadn't introduced her I'd never have guessed who it was.

SurpriseSparDay · 27/03/2020 07:12

Ah ... I’ve realised today why I’ve continued to watch - it’s pure nostalgia.

I’m delaying clicking on today’s episode because I’ll be so sad when it’s all over!

SanFranBear · 27/03/2020 12:09

I'll try not to post spoilers but Sad - I really wanted the finale to be incredible and on a par with the pilot.. but it just wasn't. I have loved every minute of Sir Patrick being on screen and I (still) love Raffi, Elnor, Seven & Rios but WTF, man..

Really REALLY disappointed..

SurpriseSparDay · 27/03/2020 21:16

Maybe my expectations were lower, because I quite enjoyed it! The epic space opera elements at least. These writers should never, ever be allowed to attempt anything in the romance dept again though.

Such a mish-mash ... Interesting ideas filtered through the prism of children’s TV - (with added swearing to disguise this. I like swearing, but it was unconvincing here.) And truly ghastly Chris Chibnall level pontification on the meaning of life.

But it was marginally good company.

Figgygal · 27/03/2020 22:03

I enjoyed it
But
Far too much unnecessary swearing
Where the hell did Narek go? Did I miss something?
Why were Raffi and seven holding hands at the end? Were the “friendly” or arm wrestling?

Strangely Picard dying did nothing for me, I smiled when Riker showed up and cried at the data simulation and ending (had the biggest crush on data when I was young girl)

SanFranBear · 28/03/2020 13:58

Where the hell did Narek go?

I have been wondering this... a lot! Perhaps he went with the Romulan fleet?

It just was so neatly tied up, couldn't one of the stupid snake-like synths from another dimension have got through undetected.. and so many questions? How did Riker, who was retired and making pizza in the woods, get given control of the Starfleet armada.. As Figgy said, where did Narek go?.. What was the point of putting Jean-Lucs consciousness in an android body but not extend his lifespan or give him any additional powers - he's still an old man, why?.. What was the point of the Borg cube?.. Wasn't Elnors 'mission' supposed to only support lost causes - but he's now part of the crew and therefore refuting a lifetime of training (not that I mind that so much, he's a sweet character!).. Are Raffi & Seven an item now and if so, when did that happen?..