Sanditon ITV

[JaneJeffer]

Anyone watching?

I agree @Rhubarb01 in rl rose Williams who plays Charlotte is I think 24, Leo suter who plays your stringer (cute architect/foreman) is 25 and Theo James is 34. Both the men seem to be playing to age but Rose is playing to a younger age and I don’t find it uncomfortable so much as 🙄🙄 that at this young age the Male love interest is already 10 years older than the female. In 10 years time Theo & Leo will still be getting their love interests played by 24 year old women - Rose at 34 will already be consigned to the “too old for that pile”.

Anyway I’m sort of enjoying it but I do think they have misfired completely with Sidney. I assume he’s meant to be Darcyeseque but he’s not, he’s just down right nasty, rude & needlessly insulting. I assume he’ll have some kind of “waaah a woman was once mean to me so I hate all women & im hot so I get a pass for that & only this much younger unspoiled woman who isn’t like the other girls can save me” arc. I can’t think of a single reason other than he has a nice butt why we would want Charlotte to be with him at all. Cute foreman was polite, considerate & listened to her so there’s no chance they’ll end up together cos you know us women! Always wanting the bad boys amirite??

I’m also treating it as a Regency drama as opposed to Austen because it really is as someone else said, a fanfic

I find the creepy step-brother the most attractive man in the programme.

Sidney doesn't seem to be so horrible to anyone else. I'd advise Charlotte to steer clear.

I'm halfway through the second episode of this and finding it extremely meh. I'm assuming we are supposed to be swooning over the aloof brother character in a Darcy-esque sort of way, but actually I'm just finding him to be a rude arsehole. Darcy was socially awkward and appeared aloof as a result, but this guy is just being a nob for the sake of feeding his own sense of superiority. And the boxing scene - how manly . Jesus wept.

Add to that that the fact he and his 'brother' look so different to each other that there is no way they could be related - I can't make my imagination stretch to that.

I think this is Andrew Davies taking the piss! He has so had it up to here with his dutiful adaptations of JA and so many of us loving it that he is going out of his way to insult us to see if we will still sit and watch because we have a pavlov dog response to the costumes.

On a totally side note I hadn't realised there where quite so many Foxes activiely acting. I suspect sometimes when tv companies do autitions everyone who turns up is a Fox, a son, a daughter, a cousin, a half sibling. And its a bit like that SF village where all the children are tall and blonde and blue eyed.

About 15 mins in and watching episode two like this

Sidney is an arse, the brother and sister are pervy wierdos, not sure I can be bothered with the rest of the series.

I find the creepy step-brother the most attractive man in the programme

The Foxes certainly got all the good genes,didn't they?!

Oh, please tell me they're not planning to make an amusing plot point out of the fact that the doctor's name sounds a bit like Fucks. Would Jane Austen have done that? No she would not.

How can there be another five episodes of this??

I watched the first 2 episodes but struggled to keep interested in it. I couldn't really work out what they were trying to do. It was just a bit boring and badly written. Whereas Jane Austen was witty. I don't think I will watch the rest.

father my thoughts exactly.
How totally pathetic.

There is definitely a frisson between Clara and Esther.

As this is Pretend Austen and Andrew Davies is clearly doing whatever he likes with it, maybe Charlotte won't end up with the rude dick brother after all, but will go for the hot architect man instead. If he's going to mess around with the conventions of the genre, he could at least give us the less predictable outcome!

Amen to that @FatherFintanFay

It’s not going to happen though is it. It’s only episode 3 & we’ve already got the Sidney redemption arc going plus the shows PR people only ever RT or like comments along the lines of “Sidney is soooo hot I can’t wait for him & Charlotte to be together” and ignore all posts that suggest hot architect who is only ever lovely to her is a better bet

Yeah, don’t like Sidney.

Didn’t like the self harm / women being nasty to each other in last night’s episode.

Kit19 I expect Charlotte and Sidney will have thrashy sex inside a bathing machine before the end of the series, accompanied by a jaunty Irish fiddle soundtrack. And there will be bare bottoms EVERYWHERE.

That’d be an improvement

I predict that Georgiana's boyfriend will turn up soon and have a fight with Sidney - torn shirts and muscles on show, natch.

Davies seems to be taking elements from all Austen's real novels and wanging them in like some kind of "Best of Austen" mashup. Hot grumpy hero, innocent heroine, terrible accident brings lovers closer together, bizarre guardian/ward arrangement, cantankerous rich old dowager, poor relations, scheming sisters, comedy overweight gentleman with no brain...etc etc.

In that case @FatherFintanFay I demand hot architect’s bare arse as well!

@PirateWeasel yes it’s exactly that! It’s like Andrew Davies has gone through a list of Austen tropes and ticked them off

I’m just so bored of the perpetuation of the ‘women don’t mind a guy being a dick as long as he’s hot, they’ll always forgive him’ trope. God forbid Charlotte should like the man who didn’t shout at her & belittl her in the first place 🙄

Has anyone else noticed that Davies keeps lifting bits of dialogue from Pride and Prejudice?

It's been mentioned on here a few times Screaming

WTF? The ball music is straight from a Chieftain's album! There's playing in the same genre, and then there's lifting the play list...

I was expecting to not enjoy it after reading this thread but I've just watched Episodes 1-3 on itv hub and I'm liking it. Theo is a bonus, I've loved him for years.

I want Clara and Esther to get together and get all Lady Denham's money and tell all the men to take a hike.

Sidney is awful but no doubt there will be some valid reason why he's being horrible to Otis.

It would be quite refreshing if we got to the end and it was revealed that Sidney is actually just a dick who made money from the slave trade, and there isn't a heart of gold beating beneath his gruff exterior. Charlotte realises this and marries Mr Stringer instead. Nobody at all marries Sidney. Won't happen, of course...

Does anyone who's read the book remember if Sidney was quite so rude in that, or if there were hints that Austen intended Charlotte to end up with him?

It was initially called The Brothers which would seem to suggest Sidney would have a big part in it though he only appears very briefly. He's described positively when he does appear and he's polite with a non flashy carriage so that's probably as good an indication as any

Mr. Sidney Parker, driving his servant in a very neat carriage, was soon opposite to them, and they all stopped for a few minutes. The manners of the Parkers were always pleasant among themselves; and it was a very friendly meeting between Sidney and his sister-in-law, who was most kindly taking it for granted that he was on his way to Trafalgar House. This he declined, however. He was "just come from Eastbourne proposing to spend two or three days, as it might happen, at Sanditon but the hotel must be his quarters. He was expecting to be joined there by a friend or two.

The rest was common enquiries and remarks, with kind notice of little Mary, and a very well-bred bow and proper address to Miss Heywood on her being named to him.

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